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Even though there are 31 confirmed dead and over 4,000 structures burned to the ground throughout Norcal, what has everyone freaked out is the 400+ missing persons.

They are hauling cadaver dogs into the burnt neighborhoods to find them.

It's really bad.

1 posted on 10/13/2017 11:50:52 AM PDT by Mariner
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Well, the Democrats have been in control of the state Legislature for over 50 years.

Perhaps they can clean things like this up by year 75.


2 posted on 10/13/2017 11:51:51 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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I hadn’t heard that. That’s terrible.


3 posted on 10/13/2017 11:52:26 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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I’m hoping and praying most of them were in transit and lost communication.


4 posted on 10/13/2017 11:52:43 AM PDT by Califreak (All Alinsky All The Time)
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California is a beautiful state, weather-wise.. but when it gets ugly.. it gets real ugly in a real hard and disastrous way. To be caught in this fire... it looks horrible! I wonder if the environmentalists had a hand in this.... trees and brush not being cared for in the way they are supposed to.. to prevent this kind of thing.


7 posted on 10/13/2017 12:02:00 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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Next up, the rain and the Mudslides. It is just a cycle of Calif BS.

Oh moon beam will beg for federal aid to help rebuild homes in the same spot. Making the ready for the next cycle of Fire, Rain, Mudslides.


8 posted on 10/13/2017 12:03:20 PM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet (Stand for the flag, kneel for the cross))
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Yup. And a lot of it is the fault of environmentalist group who successfully stopped a lot of logging. Therefore the forests are chock full of flammable materials. Also, I suspect terrorism and/or arson. No lightning strikes reported. Al Qaeda at least threatened to burn down these forests.


13 posted on 10/13/2017 12:12:25 PM PDT by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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These fires are caused by a little known scientific phenomenon called CardSponCom (CSC). It is a twist on the phrase “carbon dioxide spontaneous combustion.

Once the CO2 levels in the atmosphere reach a high enough level, CO2 molecules will, when in large enough numbers and in close enough proximity to one another, give off powerful electrical bolts that scientist call “micro-lightning” (ML).

When this ML phenomenon happens close enough to dry, dehydrated and combustible material such as sagebrush, grass or Nancy Pelosi, fire can result.

These fires are a direct result of global warming and the only near term solution is to cut down all the grass/sagebrush and get Nancy to Seattle, pronto.


28 posted on 10/13/2017 12:39:59 PM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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I’ve been following this story since Monday and keep thinking this missing number is going to fade away to maybe 5-10 and that communication problems will have been the reason. But instead, the actual number seems to rise.

It’s hard to tell where most are missing from. I assumed at first it would be Coffey, just from the photos, but now it seems across the region. So much horror in such beautiful countryside.

I’m so sorry for the suffering being endured by you all. May God give you the strength you’ll need ahead.


34 posted on 10/13/2017 12:56:56 PM PDT by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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The news media has got wind predictions 100% wrong 100% of the time. Their fear mongering is not helping. Monday night they were predicting winds to 80 mph, meanwhile it remained dead calm in the Rincon Valley section of Santa Rosa that night and the past 4 days winds here have not exceeded 10-15mph. I think that the local weathermen are compensating for the fact that they didn’t sound the alarm Sunday about the freak gusts that drove the fire 15 miles in 4 hours.

Also, reports of fire containment are fear inspiring and don’t reflect the reality that containment in most of the fire areas is above 50% as is demonstrated by US Govt. heat sensing satellites. Below is a link to the best map out there on the fire situation, raw unfiltered data rapidly updated and accessible to the public. Point your friends and family in the fire area to this map. It will settle a lot of doubt and panic.

For example, the Adobe Fire, closest to my location, is being reported as 2% contained whereas the map and my direct observation finds that this fire is almost 80% contained. Day before yesterday morning I watched them water bomb a mile long strip at the edge of Annadel Park, set backfires up the hillside and save dozens of homes abutting the park opposite the Bennett Valley Golf Course. Yesterday I went back to the golf course and could see no evidence of active fire for a 5 mile stretch at the park boundary. They are using minimal capability on the center of the park since no structures are up there. Yet officials are still claiming that the Adobe Fire is only 2% contained.

This chronic over reporting of the wind situation and underestimating the controlled areas is approaching collective hysteria. This fire is a killer and remains dangerous in many zones, no question, but the fire crews in the populated areas are now getting the necessary reinforcements and the evacuated towns are largely out of danger.

I have a feeling that the officials responsible for fire fighting strategy are basically saying that even they can’t trust the weather services to give them accurate predictions and are erring on the side of caution, in my estimation, to a panic causing degree.

The post fire recriminations are already beginning to shape up as “investigative reporters” are beginning to take Pacific Gas and Electric to task for bad power line tree maintenance and slow replacement of older pole mounted transformers. This is total crap. Rare freak 50-60 mph wind gusts are not only going to whip power lines together, they are going to blow trees into the lines and no amount of tree branch trimming is going to insure that trees remain standing in those sorts of winds.

https://maps.nwcg.gov/sa/#/%3F/38.4388/-122.6311/14


44 posted on 10/13/2017 1:38:10 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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Here is the situation as of this afternoon from sfgate:

4 p.m. At least 35 confirmed dead in Northern California wildfires: Two more people have died in Napa County wildfires, bringing the death toll there to four. As of Friday afternoon, a total of 35 confirmed deaths have been reported by law enforcement agencies in fire ravaged areas of Northern California.

The remains of 89-year-old Dr. George Chaney and a 79-year-old man believed to be Edward Stone were found at their home in the 2300 block of Atlas Peak Road in Napa about 9:30 a.m. Thursday by the county’s forensic search team, according to a statement from Sheriff John Robertson.

In addition to the Napa County deaths, wildfires have claimed nine lives in Mendocino County, four in Yuba County.

An estimated 5,700 structures destroyed in California wildfires: The series of deadly wildfires burning across the state have wiped out an estimated 5,700 structures, according to Cal Fire officials. Wildfires raging across California have marked the deadliest week in modern state history with at least 35 fatalities as flames blackened more than 221,000 acres. At least 90,000 people have been displaced by the fires.

Wildfires destroyed at least 5 percent of housing stock in Santa Rosa: An estimated 3,500 homes destroyed by wildfires ravaging Santa Rosa account for 5 percent of the city’s housing stock, said Mayor Chris Coursey. About 400,000 square feet of commercial space in the Sonoma County town of 175,155 people was also lost in blazes since Sunday night.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Live-updates-Death-toll-climbs-to-29-in-Northern-12274332.php


49 posted on 10/13/2017 4:47:49 PM PDT by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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http://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/7521925-181/fire-toll-now-35-in?ref=most&artslide=0

Fire toll now 35; in Santa Rosa 19 dead, $1.2B damage; 50K evacuees!

Evacuations have just been ordered in east Sonoma, and for Santa Rosa residents off of Highway 12 between Adobe Canyon and Calistoga roads.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lU7wFtb4Ovv5ctzxA1ZR6FyNkR0FuYsipQqX18vNgMU/edit#

The link below takes you to the original post, I made yesterday re donations.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3594608/posts


58 posted on 10/14/2017 7:48:54 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Now, that Trump is kicking their asses, they, ______________, want to quit. (Fill in the blank!))
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5700 homes have been destroyed as per a Ktvu news crawler.


69 posted on 10/14/2017 10:32:18 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Now, that Trump is kicking their asses, they, ______________, want to quit. (Fill in the blank!)The)
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NOAH weather update: re wind warnings and weather for North Bay.

https://alerts.weather.gov/cap/wwacapget.php?x=CA12586E2F127C.RedFlagWarning.12586E3159B0CA.MTRRFWMTR.1ac5348df4d132a726f4d9baf9a5b071


74 posted on 10/14/2017 5:27:47 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Trump is kicking their asses, they, ______________, want to quit. (Fill in the blank!))
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For latest fire updates in Sonoma Cty. There are still problems from the city of Sonoma along route 12 to Santa Rosa.

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/


76 posted on 10/15/2017 7:00:33 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Trump is kicking their asses, they, ______________, want to quit. (Fill in the blank!))
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The link below summarizes the fires in the Napa Area:

http://napavalleyregister.com/


77 posted on 10/15/2017 7:04:13 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Trump is kicking their asses, they, ______________, want to quit. (Fill in the blank!))
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Wildfires happen around here a lot. Just had one a week before this disaster up north. Fire jumped from a house fire to the brush and took off. Charred about 100 acres before it hit the mountain behind us and the rock face starved it of fuel.The firefighters were on it like flies on manure. They used C-130s,DC-10s, skycranes, Hueys. If the house that started fire was 200ft.to the South, we would have lost our home. Fire is nothing to scoff at. Jesus said that the rain falls on the just and unjust, same thing with fire.


80 posted on 10/16/2017 5:12:47 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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