Posted on 10/06/2017 8:20:44 AM PDT by Liberty7732
Late night comedian Jimmy Kimmel is a genuinely funny guy, and was until recently a funny and a likeable guy which explains a lot of his success.
But he has recently forayed into politics and more importantly, national policy on some major issues things that dont easily lend themselves to humor, proven by even his lack of humor monologuing on those issues. Theyre issues that are easy to skim the surface on and get badly wrong.
This, Kimmel has done.
This turn toward Democratic shill seriously, using direct talking points from Senate Democratic Minority Leader Chuck Schumer is probably not who Kimmel actually wants to be. But alas, for many informed, conservative policy wonks (such as me) that is exactly what he looks like a partisan shill like so many silly Hollywood celebs. Undoubtedly, becoming a polarizing figure will not be great for his career if he keeps it up. The NFL has learned this.
Kimmel is clearly not a policy guy. (FYI, this post can apply to Stephen Colbert, Trevor Noah and all the rest of the night-time comedians who have decided their jobs are to moralize about social justice rather than make people laugh. They end up doing neither.)
Hes not a facts and figures wonk on either healthcare or on guns. Hes a comedian. That doesnt mean he cant have opinions on these things. Every American from truck driver to waitress to Wall Street jockey to professional athlete to late night comedian can have opinions on these things. And in our glorious country, they can spout them freely.
But when you have built a platform reaching millions of Americans of all political stripes by one method comedy then suddenly shift to a different method public policy and politics you might look a little amateurish. Or shillish. He does both.
So heres a little friendly education on the most recent policy issue he dove into: gun violence. His lecturing gives him applause lines for some of America but for those who have data and facts and reasoning powers, he came off as one long, eye-rolling groan.
The best policy is made by using data, history, common sense and rational, linear thinking to find solutions to problems by first identifying the actual causes of the problems and then actions that aim at the causes. The worst policies come from knee-jerk, emotional-based perceptions that do not reflect reality. Jimmy Kimmel has taken the latter approach, and he has done it in a high-handed, most unlikable manner.
So lets take his monologue and break down how he errs repeatedly, and badly, and provide him information that Schumer and the surface-thinkers wont.
1) Kimmel gun ignorance and gun law ignorance Kimmel makes the mistake of virtually every journalist and Democrat that speaks on this issue: Orlando, Aurora, Newtown, San Bernardino, [in] every one of these shootings the murderer used automatic or semiautomatic rifles.
Except, wrong.
In none of those shootings did the killers use an automatic rifle. In all four cases, the rifle used was semiautomatic. And for Jimmys knowledge base, automatic weapons have been banned for manufacture or sale through dealers for 30 years. Those owned before 1986 were not confiscated and can be sold, but they rarely are as they are ridiculously expensive from $14,000 to more than $100,000.
Finally on this point, the The New York Times reports that most of the firearms used in the 16 most recent mass shootings in the United States were purchased legally and with a federal background check.
Gun control advocates are constantly pushing for background checks on gun purchases although we already have those. And again, in three of the four cases Kimmel cited, the killers passed FBI background checks. In the fourth, the killer stole the weapons from his mother, who had obtained them legally with background checks.
We know the Vegas killer obtained at least some of his weapons from licensed dealers and passed background checks.
2) Opponents are bad, the NRA is evil True to form for gun control advocates and liberals in general, Kimmel quickly pivoted to impugning the motives of politicians who do not vote the way he wants. Its the bought and paid for! gambit. Its weak because it dodges the merits of a case, and more often than not is inaccurate.
Case in point.
In his diatribe, Kimmel asserted that House Speaker Paul Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell wont do anything about [the attack] because the NRA has their balls in a money clip. See, the NRA buys weak Republicans who will do whatever it says.
But the NRA isnt even in the top 50 of political donors in Washington, D.C. A dozen unions are; the Chicago Cubs are; the city of Philadelphia is. The majority of the major donors in the top 50 and vast majority of the money goes to Democrats. The NRA doesnt even make the list. But theyre the problem because the Left always needs a bogeyman. NRA, Koch Brothers (#38 on the list) Russia, fake news, Breitbart, white supremacists, etc.
The power the NRA has is not buying politicians, its having about 4.5 million Americans as members, Americans who are informed and active. Thats not buying Congressmen, thats democracy.
Further actual evidence that Kimmel doesnt know what he is talking about is that, in reality, the NRA has supported legislation that Speaker Ryan has been blocking. The NRA-backed bill would unify the hodgepodge patchwork of conceal carry laws among the states by making them valid in any state as a drivers license is if the person carries the documentation on them.
Maybe Ryan has the family jewels in some other money clip, but it kind of puts the lie to Kimmels statement.
3) The infamous gun show loophole Jimmy Kimmel arrives at being just a Democratic talking point, and theres nothing funny about that.
He said: Right now, there are loopholes in the law that let people avoid background checks if they buy a gun privately from another party if they buy a gun online or at a gun show.
Actually, thats the Constitution and it is not a loophole. The Second Amendment came right on the heels of the First Amendment on free speech, religion, assembly for a reason. It was just that important. Americans free to sell guns to each other is not a loophole. Imagine if you wanted to buy your son, daughter, father, mother, brother, sister, close friend a gun as a present? Or you inherit guns through death. Kimmel and others think the fact that the recipient of such a gift does not have to undergo a background check is a loophole if hes actually thought about it that much, which he probably hasnt.
Most guns are bought from dealers. The Vegas killer bought at least many of his guns from authorized gun shops after passing background checks. Anti-gun rights advocates coaching Kimmel, Colbert, Trevor, etc. to push these points simply reveals that they are more about political gain than reducing murders. Reducing murders must always go straight to the murderer as trucks can kill more than guns but the anti-gun rights crowd never wants to do that.
Then Kimmel became ugly. Following the norms of the Left, he imputed evil motives to all who disagree with him.
He showed a collage of photos depicting Senators who voted against closing the totally fake loophole after the Pulse nightclub massacre last year in Orlando. The point was to shame and scare them and their supporters. They are bad people. Again, not facts, not reason. Pure emotions.
Staying clear of contextual argument, he fails to note that the Orlando killer did not use the fictional loophole to purchase his weapons and as far as we know, neither did the Vegas shooter. Nor did any of the other killers he referred to earlier.
So what is the point of this diatribe? If it is to discredit him among a chunk of his fan base and turn them into former fans, that may work. I doubt that is what he wants. He is being lauded as courageous oh brother by the media and his fellow Hollywood celebs (who are all protected by security guards with guns) and he will feel very good about himself.
But he has done no good. In fact, his efforts are not just divisive and bad on that front, they are probably bad on the issue of gun violence if we must term it that way. He wont talk about any root causes of gun violence. In the big, philosophical picture, a contextual understanding involves the presence of evil and the nature of humanity. In the specific causal picture, a root cause understanding involves the decay of the family and traditional moral values.
But the Left pushing more gun control laws that will change nothing actually do not have a problem with the loss of traditional morality. Theyve actively abetted it.
That guy used to host The Man Show and he would troll women, especially feminist women. Now he has become the biggest mangina on late night TV. No small accomplishment there.
Isnt it just wonderful for the left to get all this positive publicity for free from leftist entertainers, and to have a lock on mainstream media?
The Estrogen Hour
His ignorant diatribes may make for good TV but its damn poor policy.
UNFORTUNATELY, there are too many who clap and nod in agreement with his brainless bs.
Yes. I doubt that Kimmel and Carolla are friends anymore.
He is in Megyn Kelly territory.
Crying low testosterone toupee wearing fat man boy suddenly used as a mouthpiece by his leftist overlords. Who cares?
Exactly right. I never enjoyed the Man-Show, too politically incorrect even for me, plus it was juvenile and amateurish, but Kimmel is definitely one of the most talented comics around. He was hilarious even on “Win Ben Stein’s Money”. Now all that talent has gone to waste for his SJW crusade.
It is frightening that Liberals, Rabid Liberals and SJW get their news from comedians. It’s disgusting.
Even though Carson was by all accounts as much a Hollywood liberal in his private life as any other star. He knew his job, as late show host, was to put politics aside while he entertained and calmed down his audience after a stressful day. I can pretty much guarantee in his 42 years he never went on a political diatribe that ended in weeping.
Yes, and they're called MILLENIALS. They get their news from Jimmy Kimmel, Steven Colbert, Trevor Noah and the rest of the "blur the lines between comedy/entertainment/news/political commentary" crowd which they hold in high esteem.
In the eyes of the millenials Jimmy Kimmel is their one-stop shop for all things comedy, commentary and news all wrapped up in one.
Stupid.
If he really wanted to get his rants the attention he thinks they deserve, he should show videos of women on trampolines while he goes off on whatever every night.
Neutered perhaps?
“Yes. I doubt that Kimmel and Carolla are friends anymore.”
Hope so. i read early book of Adam’s and he personalizes Kimmel as a GOD who went places he didn’t. Hope that has changed.
“In the eyes of the millenials Jimmy Kimmel is their one-stop shop for all things comedy, commentary and news all wrapped up in one.”
Yep, we need to have the Bell Curve adjusted for these ‘newbies’, these ignorant as stumps millennials.
I suspect he has been threatened by very powerful forces.
His u-turn from mildly amusing, late night comic to shrill, violent Marxist is shocking
The “late night comedian” is extinct. The term should be retired except when used retrospectively to people like Carson, Allen, Leno and a few others.
What we have now are “late night no-talent, bitter, angry, metrosexual, pussy-whipped libtard propagandists.”
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