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World View: Steve Bannon and Henry Kissinger Form Project to Sound Alarm on China
Breitbart News ^ | Sept 30, 2017 | JOHN J. XENAKIS

Posted on 10/01/2017 8:12:59 AM PDT by huldah1776

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According to an interview in Bloomberg Businessweek, Steve Bannon and Henry Kissinger have had several meetings and are preparing a project to sound the alarm about what Bannon views as the primary economic threat to America:

If we don’t get our situation sorted with China, we’ll be destroyed economically. The forced technology transfer of American innovation to China is the single biggest economic and business issue of our time. Until we sort that out, they will continue to appropriate our innovation to their own system and leave us as a colony — our Jamestown to their Great Britain, a tributary state.

This is a bit of hyperbole, referring to England’s Jamestown Colony of Virginia, formed in 1607, but it illustrates the fear that Bannon is presenting of a reversal of roles between China and America, with China becoming the dominant world economic power.

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Both Bannon and Kissinger are experts on world and military history, and Bannon is also an expert on Generational Dynamics, so he understands that a new war between China and the US is approaching. As regular readers know, I’ve worked with Steve Bannon off and on for almost ten years.

Bannon frames the conflict with China in economic terms. He says that China is harming the U.S. by engaging in unfair trade practices, such as the forced transfer of U.S. technology to Chinese companies. According to Bannon, China’s historical disposition toward trading partners is exploitative and potentially ruinous:

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It’s always about making the barbarians a tributary state. Our tribute to China is our technology — that’s what it takes to enter their market, and [they’ve taken] $3.5 trillion worth over the last 10 years. We have to give them the basic essence of American capitalism: our innovation.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: bannon; bannonchina; china; dsj02; economics; kissinger; redchina; third100days; trumpasia; trumpchina
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I thought that Bannon being with Kissinger might give me more insight into who Bannon is so I read this one and another. I'll post the link to that one, too. I was too naive to pay attention to Kissinger and politics when he was in the news so forgive me for that.
1 posted on 10/01/2017 8:12:59 AM PDT by huldah1776
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second article by Breitbart News 9/29/17 is mostly quoting this article:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-28/bannon-s-back-and-targeting-china

Here’s breitbarts:

“Bannon Puts Spotlight on China Threat for 2018: ‘The Single Biggest Economic and Business Issue of Our Time’”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/29/bannon-puts-spotlight-on-china-threat-for-2018-the-single-biggest-economic-and-business-issue-of-our-time/


2 posted on 10/01/2017 8:15:45 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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Kissinger is a big time Globalist.


3 posted on 10/01/2017 8:18:33 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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Steve Bannon and Henry Kissinger Form Project to Sound Alarm on China

Comes several decades too late - and Henry Kissinger? Kissinger is the architect of America's bizarre, ongoing program to promote China into world prominence, normalizing relations with the PRC and entering into the one-sided relationship we have had with them since the '70s. Kissinger has never met a dictator he couldn't fawn over, but even he should be embarrassed by his "White House Years" paeans to Mao, quite possibly the greatest mass murderer in human history.

Quite frankly, Bannon's association with Kissinger makes me have doubts about Bannon.
4 posted on 10/01/2017 8:23:36 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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How does that make you have doubts? I have liberal friends who share the same certain beliefs as I do does that make them conservative? No. Your logic would be akin to Eric wear a shirt to show his support for communist causes. Sally wears a red shirt that too makes her communist.


5 posted on 10/01/2017 8:26:36 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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How does that make you have doubts?

It makes me question what Bannon's goals and motivations are in this project. If he is serious about sounding the alarm on China, why is he involving a man who has every motivation - both financial and in terms of historic self-justification - to damp down and minimize alarms about China?
6 posted on 10/01/2017 8:31:34 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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Going through my many opened tabs I had been looking for updates on Kissinger. He spoke at a college after meeting with Bannon and said, “Our challenge is to find a way for American exceptionalism and China’s dreams to produce a new world order for the benefit of all.”

He’s trying to avoid WW3.

The article is from the South China Morning Post (9/27/17)

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/2112957/kissinger-urges-us-boost-cooperation-beijing-massive

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Last month, US Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer began a formal investigation into whether China’s intellectual property policies are “unreasonable or discriminatory” under section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974. The investigation could take up to a year, and possible outcomes include a negotiated agreement with China, unilateral US remedies or a dispute settlement process in the World Trade Organisation.

Democrats and Republicans generally support the investigation, with the only vocal dissent coming from lawmakers who demand more immediate action. Kissinger avoided any specific references to these outstanding trade and investment issues, focusing instead on higher-level ideas and expounding on his vision for a new world order with the US and China at the centre.

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Don’t know about you but the phrase New World Order always gets the hair on the back of my neck standing up.

As for why Kissinger thinks WW3 is (was?) is discussed here (mostly because of Obama and hildabeast’s failed foreign policy and China’s trade policy):

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/2112957/kissinger-urges-us-boost-cooperation-beijing-massive


7 posted on 10/01/2017 8:31:52 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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In 20 years, half the people in China will be over 60. I suspect they’ll have plenty of problems to deal with over there.


8 posted on 10/01/2017 8:32:17 AM PDT by proxy_user
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Kissinger seems to be trying to fix what a mess he made while in government. The balance of power has changed since then and I believe Bannon really does want America to come first in all issues without war.


9 posted on 10/01/2017 8:34:34 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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That’s true but a lot of bad things can happen in those 20 years.


10 posted on 10/01/2017 8:36:08 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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At the time, it was pretty shrewd to play the Chinese against the Soviets.

I wonder if they saw China as such a backwater, that they never imagined that they would ever achieve even 3rd world status, and be just some isolated sloth-like buffer state that we could sell stuff to while they kept the Russians busy and paranoid.


11 posted on 10/01/2017 8:38:12 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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This srticle can’t be accurate. Henry Kissinger has worked for China for years, and represents their interests zealously. To him, they can do no wrong.


12 posted on 10/01/2017 8:45:22 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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It surprises me when Kissinger shows up in headlines these days. Who knew he was still alive and able?

I was once made to wait for a new hotel room in Russia because they were putting him into mine. Back then, we were warned not to say anything in our rooms because they were bugged. Also, if the phone rang twice, that meant the phone was bugged. Yeah, obvious. Sure enough, as soon as I got into the new room... ring, ring.


13 posted on 10/01/2017 8:49:24 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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“Your logic would be akin to Eric wear a shirt to show his support for communist causes. Sally wears a red shirt that too makes her communist.”

If both Eric and Sally wear those hammer and sickle red shirts, then you can bet a house that they are communists. Sometimes, most of the time, the simplest explanation is the truth.


14 posted on 10/01/2017 8:51:02 AM PDT by sagar
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“In 20 years, half the people in China will be over 60. I suspect they’ll have plenty of problems to deal with over there.”

Everybody thinks the old people are the problem. Why? This kind of mentality is why we can’t get rid of these outdated welfare programs for the elderly.


15 posted on 10/01/2017 8:54:02 AM PDT by sagar
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bannon’s credibility just went down fifty points for his having anything to do with Kissinger. Yuck!


16 posted on 10/01/2017 8:56:42 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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They’ll start killing their elderly.


17 posted on 10/01/2017 9:01:55 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: huldah1776

Kissinger? Steve, say it ain’t so.


18 posted on 10/01/2017 9:11:43 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Vacate the chair! Ryan must go.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
It seems Kissinger wants to co-opt Bannon.
19 posted on 10/01/2017 9:18:47 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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I believe Bannon really does want America to come first in all issues without war.

I buy all that - I just don't have any confidence at this point that Bannon knows how to go about doing anything about it. He was unable to carve out and hold a position in the administration, and was forced out by people who aren't on-board with MAGA, and now he wants to launch a project to raise the alarm about China with a man who, based on his track record, has every motivation to undermine him.


20 posted on 10/01/2017 10:00:08 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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