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Looking Southward
Taki's Magazine ^ | 9/26/7 | Costin Vlad Alamariu

Posted on 09/26/2017 9:12:54 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck

Race in Latin America is confusing to many Americans, who generally can’t see beyond black and white. Spanish and Portuguese conquistadores and their families from Europe have always formed a kind of local aristocracy. Their descendants were called criollos, and were considered somewhat lower in status than Iberians or other Europeans born abroad. The descendants of single European men who married native indio women formed the core of “the people,” who were subservient.

The possible combinations of different grades of European, Amerindian, and African led to a dizzying proliferation of types, all of which were named and classified according to a racial casta system. A mestizo is the historical name for a half criollo/half indio, a zambo for a half black/half indio. But these are only the better-known terms. Dozens of words for the possible combinations have existed, each with its own role, status, and class associations. There were even pictorial guides.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: chavismo; immigration; race; southamerica
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The economic model adopted in Latin American countries has become the default model for the United States:

Rio de Janeiro has always had slums, but the favelas popularized by movies like City of God and Elite Squad mushroomed in size in the mid–20th century. Local politicians and nabobs were in search of the famous $2-per-day wage favored by oligarchs worldwide, so they imported a population that would work twelve hours a day in the hot sun for next to no pay from Brazil’s poor northeastern provinces. In one move, Rio’s oligarchs achieved both a decline in their labor costs and the political elimination of their traditional competitor, the middle class. The remaining rich Brazilians attained a life of freedom and luxury that is difficult for Americans to imagine.

...In the late 1980s one such politician, Rio de Janeiro mayor Leonel Brizola, went so far as to forbid Brazilian police from making incursions into the favelas. In other words, he carried out Obama’s, Eric Holder’s, and the Democrats’ plans to neuter police in order to cater to his new base of voters. This resulted, predictably, in lawlessness and brutality that exceeded even that found in post-Bush Iraq. The degradation of public life and hygiene mostly wiped out what was left of the middle class.

It’s easy to understand why the Bush family pushes guacamole recipes and mass immigration when doing so means their descendants will live like their elite counterparts south of the border. Why does Mark Zuckerberg spend nights on his website arguing with your grandmother for the rights of DACA “dreamers”? Is he motivated by compassion, or by the prospect of an American serf class he could profitably exploit? California was formerly the worldwide picture of health and wealth. Today its middle class is mostly gone and it has South American levels of wealth disparity. Its dams and infrastructure are crumbling while public funds are diverted to services for illegals instead.

Zuckerberg and other oligarchs have an interest in lowering Americans’ wages. merican politicians have a similar interest in using the same cheap labor pool for political support and, ultimately, for more power.

1 posted on 09/26/2017 9:12:54 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

When I think of the racial makeup of Mexico, I see it as European (spanish) and indians (in the US the latter would be called “native americans”)

Most of the illegals I’ve seen look to be indians, while many of the ones I’ve done business with are european (Spanish descent).


2 posted on 09/26/2017 9:19:57 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: robroys woman
It isn't just Mexico. The racial caste structure of Latin America generally carries over to immigrant communities in the US. The most wealthy and successful Cuban-Americans are of Spanish descent, the underclasses are of mostly Indian and black ancestry.

This is one of the many reasons why the La Raza agenda of "Latino" or "Hispanic" solidarity is such nonsense. What does an upper-middle class Cuban of Spanish descent have in common culturally (or ethnically) with someone of primarily American Indian descent who ran across the US-Mexican border? Sure they both speak Spanish, just as both Americans and people in Jamaica speak English.

3 posted on 09/26/2017 9:28:36 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

I don’t give a crap about anybody’s race.


4 posted on 09/26/2017 9:29:16 AM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: ek_hornbeck

> > > The possible combinations of different grades of European, Amerindian, and African led to a dizzying proliferation of types, all of which are seen by Democrats as potential Fellow Travelers (votes!!!)


5 posted on 09/26/2017 9:33:35 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (https://imgoat.com/uploads/645920e395/39513.gif)
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To: pgkdan

You may not give a crap, but Latin American societies care very much, and that has both political and cultural implications for us.


6 posted on 09/26/2017 9:34:25 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

Dizzying combinations of different grades of European, Amerindian, and African Lives Matter


7 posted on 09/26/2017 9:35:07 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (https://imgoat.com/uploads/645920e395/39513.gif)
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*SOB* that is the most hateful thing I have ever heard! *SOB*


8 posted on 09/26/2017 9:35:16 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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To: ek_hornbeck

As someone who lived in Latin America and Married and spawned with one

It’s a canard that Latinos are not racial aware

More so than here to be honest


9 posted on 09/26/2017 9:37:33 AM PDT by wardaddy (Virtue signalers should be shot on sight...conservative ones racked and hanged then fed to dogs)
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To: ek_hornbeck
Race in Latin America is confusing to many Americans, who generally can’t see beyond black and white.

Why read an article that insults me in the first sentence?

10 posted on 09/26/2017 9:39:34 AM PDT by thesharkboy (Charter member of the Basket of Deplorables)
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To: wardaddy
People believe that because most Latin Americans are of mixed race, it's some sort of liberal race-blind utopia. That's because they look at it from the standpoint of the US "one drop rule." In most Latin American countries there is no one drop rule because everyone has more than one drop, so their racial hierarchy is based on how many or few drops somebody has.

This article is also correct to say that most Marxist revolutions (Zapatistas, Chavismo, etc) in Central and South America are as much driven by race as by class and ideology (i.e. the Indians and blacks wanting a slice of the Spaniards' pie), at least to the extent that the two aren't more or less equivalent there.

11 posted on 09/26/2017 9:42:32 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

Bookmark


12 posted on 09/26/2017 9:44:04 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: ek_hornbeck

Brizola was a Marxist and the favelas were his strongest base

PDT

In battle with PMDB

Brizola was like a cat with many lives surviving the military junta decades

PDT ....FAR LEFT PARTYNOF WORKERS OR LABOR

PMDB ...easily Democratic Movement Party more or less

Use to be the big two parties but there are others now

Brazil is what we will look like in our future

More African and indigenous

More violent

More income disparity

Less civilized ....very divided

Brazil is sort of north south divide too but the south there is the whitest part and most right wing in a liberal nation

Only way right wins again in Brazil is a coup

Otherwise best you can hope for is moderate

Unless a war with someone stokes nationalism....unlikely

It’s a mess

But it has its attributes

My Rio wife and her family strictly forbade mingling with blacks


13 posted on 09/26/2017 9:44:32 AM PDT by wardaddy (Virtue signalers should be shot on sight...conservative ones racked and hanged then fed to dogs)
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Brazil is what we will look like in our future More African and indigenous More violent More income disparity Less civilized ....very divided

That's certainly what the elites want - crush the uppity middle class with its interfering notions of a Constitutional Republic, and replace them with a slum underclass that either gives you votes in exchange for handouts or provides unskilled and semi-skilled labor for pennies.

14 posted on 09/26/2017 9:56:56 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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Brazil is what we will look like in our future

Yep.
15 posted on 09/26/2017 9:58:30 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ek_hornbeck

The progressives like slums. The inner cities are the new plantations, their urban policies are The New
Slavery, and they are the overlords. Massa.

They don’t even believe that the people there are actually human. Not even 3/5.


16 posted on 09/26/2017 10:26:36 AM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Only their self-aggrandizement matters.)
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To: robroys woman

“Most of the illegals I’ve seen look to be indians, while many of the ones I’ve done business with are european (Spanish descent).”

Just take a gander at the babes on Univision or Telemundo!


17 posted on 09/26/2017 10:32:37 AM PDT by Bonemaker
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ust take a gander at the babes on Univision or Telemundo!


Ha! I was thinking about that after I posted. It’s almost like soft Pr0n. And I’m only rarely exposed to it (not having television).


18 posted on 09/26/2017 10:35:43 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: ek_hornbeck

Thanks for the info; I just put “Elite Squad” in my Netflix queue!


19 posted on 09/26/2017 10:45:26 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Trump's election does not release you from your prepping responsibilites!)
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To: robroys woman; Bonemaker

I was told none of the women on Mexican telenovelas are actually Mexican.

They are primarily Colombian and Venezualian.


20 posted on 09/26/2017 10:50:35 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Trump's election does not release you from your prepping responsibilites!)
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