Mein Libeling, Halt mich fest.
My love, hold me tight.
Posted on 09/24/2017 8:22:07 PM PDT by oblomov
Mein Libeling, Halt mich fest.
My love, hold me tight.
FDP is libertarian lite
#12. If they call the winning coalition the Jamaica Coalition, does that mean that every normal working German will have to have 13 jobs just to make ends meet? The Wayan Brothers want to know. NOT
“”We had hoped for a better result,”
So did I; you gone.
The AfD could make a presentation about the effect that mass immigration of low skill Muslims will have on the viability of the German pension system. That would REALLY get the attention of older Germans.
Well, there’s another issue with the migrants and the German pension program, which no one wants to utter on public TV or discuss.
Let’s say that you had 500,000 folks arrive in Germany who are 25-to-45 years old. Let’s say that the bulk then get somewhat integrated....get lesser technical jobs (which is what most are doing) and stay around till age 66 (for retirement).
So, Mr X goes to the pension office. He talks with the pension representative. Mr X has a German associate who started working at age 15 (via the apprentice program). The friend....same job....same qualifications....has paid ten years more into the pension pot than Mr X. The German friend will get 1,500 Euro a month as a pension. Mr X? 980 Euro a month. That ten years mattered. Can Mr X live off 980 Euro? Only marginally. Will the government have to pay Mr X a welfare supplement on top of the pension? Yes...probably so. Where does the welfare supplement come from? Oh....yeah....tax revenue.
What about the guys who came in and said they were 16 years old and they were really 22 years old? Well...somewhere around the real age of 66....with knee trouble and various aches....they’d like to take retirement but they have been faking the government and on paper....they are still 60. Those folks? They will have to work until age 72 (real age).
All of these represent little small problems that one can laugh about but it’s how corrupted the whole system has become. There are some 45-year old migrants who’ve arrived and even if they integrate and get a job....by 66...I doubt if they can get more than 600 Euro a month on a pension. Go figure how that works.
“The big negative with the AfD is that beyond immigration and security....they don’t have other positions.”
How difficult will it be to come up with an entire agenda? Frankly, I’m surprised they didn’t take all the top issues and simply state a position. Of course, this might also cost them votes as they apparently took votes from the two top parties as the other smaller parties got larger votes as well. Do we know if the voter turnout was higher than normal?
So, is somebody who voted AfD in favor of, say pension “reform?” What about leaving the EU? It’s hard (for me) to say what other platform positions will hurt them.
Voter turn-out was 75-percent...up around 3.5-percent over 2013.
Personally, I think most people went to the AfD purely on a frustration vote with the other five parties and having other things on the platform would have meant a challenge for some.
But there’s other odd factor....for over forty years...alternating between tax-reform and pension-reform every four years...the parties kept people engaged but there really wasn’t any true reform. If you were a pensioner...you got 12-Euro more a month, and that didn’t mean much of anything. If you were single and got some tax reform....it meant you 18-Euro more a month, which is mostly nothing to get all happy about.
At some point, when the AfD guy was challenged last night by the media guy on a forum...the response was that Merkel and company had two years to fix what they did in 2015...doing mostly nothing....here we are now, with more promises from Merkel and company to continue doing nothing. We just took an opposing view.
I would sit back and view this coalition discussion. I have my doubts that the national Greens can come to some agreement involving the three other partners. It’s an obvious thing...the national Greens are a totally different creature than the state-by-state Greens. We may come to early November and find no coalition possible, and another election slated for mid-January. It would be awful weird, but that public forum business from last night really showcased six parties with obvious hostile feelings left over from the election.
In 30 years, if trends continue, the Muslims will refuse to be taxed to pay for Christians’ retirement, and will burn Germany to the ground if they don’t get their way.
Why doesn’t Merkel take a firmer position on the immigration crises? It seems this is what the people want.
This is debated from time to time in Germany. I tend to think three things prevented Merkel from ever having written policy.
1. She’s not a true political figure...she’s a scientist-turned-professor-turned-politician. She’s never actually managed anything in her life...never been a mayor...governor...etc.
2. The intellectual crowd that runs Germany always saw immigration, asylum, and refugees as one single ‘color’ or concept. So they lumped the war-time Syrians/Iraqis into one bucket that was considered special. Once done, the Afghans and Pakistanis also jumped into the bucket. The Eritreans, the Africans, the Tunisians, the Moroccans, etc....all jumped into the same bucket. This intellectual could not view ten different groups and write a simple code to affect each group applying.
3. Finally, there was a massive public relations game played by the German public TV crowd (ARD, ZDF) and they sought to demonize anyone taking an opposite view in 2014 and 2015. You were ‘stupid’ if you opposed the Merkel plan (which was non-existent). All of this came to an end on 31 Dec 2015...in Koln, with the thousand-odd police reports turned in with groping and sexual assault on German women that night. The public TV news crowd was forced back a step or two. By Feb of 2016, it’s obvious that major actions have to occur.
So, we get to the only Merkel-invention...paying ‘baksheesh’ to Turkey’s Erdogan to hold back refugees from floating across to Greece. But she couldn’t pay it via Germany. So she went to the EU and convinced them to pay 3-billion Euro a year in ‘baksheesh’ to Erdogan this way. Don’t ever go to a German and suggest this bribe deal...they will go nuts. But it’s the ONLY thing that stopped the million refugees a year from coming to Germany.
I would add this as well...part of this whole story goes back to the 1.5 birth-rate issue (since the 1970s) and the fact that the 82-million German population is steadily decreasing. I think some of the intellectuals now believe this immigration thing is the only way left to hold the population at a certain level. Add to this...the guilt-trip thing still left over from WW II.
My final comment....all of this leads to an odd coalition trap because the FDP (one of the two partners discussed in this next government)...is demanding a Canadian-like program for immigration involving ‘points’. This will really go a long way in fixing the program....but I have doubts that Merkel herself....of the Green Party (to be partner number two in this coalition)....will agree to the ‘points’ program.
Merkel represents the interests of the EU, not German interests. Therefore, she's committed to an internationalist ideology where borders and nations are obsolete and need to be abolished. To oppose the mass invasion of Europe by Third World savages would be in violation of one of the central dogmas at the core of globalism.
But she won. Now she can carry out the orders of bammy and the pope and bring millions more savages into germany and Europe.
It's even worse than that. At the core of Internationalist ideologies (both socialist and "capitalist") is the belief that there is no such thing as nationhood, so that the demographic displacement of Germans by Middle Eastern and African peoples, far from being a problem, is something inherently desirable. I also disagree with your assessment of Merkel not being a political figure. Regardless of her background, she is thoroughly committed to the internationalist views at the core of the EU. In that sense she is an ideologue.
Merkel will continue surrendering Europe to hordes of homicidal savages.
It isn’t a crisis to her.
It is an opportunity to sacrifice Europeans to hordes of homicidal savages.
That is something that she wants.
Oh I agree....she is the master manipulator of the EU at this point. She reads their text....they read her text....everyone from the EU is on the same script. Everyone believes this internationalist view of fixing Europe’s woes. The next EU election comes up in the spring of 2019. Some people think that right-wing political groups will purge out around one-third of the EU representatives there right now.
If trends continue, the savages will burn and kill Europeans in record number from within the very European countries that welcomed them, because that is what the savages do.
I just hope that AfD keeps its momentum going for the next election. The National Front in France did better with each election, followed by a dismal showing where it lost to a liberal globalist lightweight from an upstart political party. Germany may fall into the same trap.
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