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What the Media Get Wrong About Manafort Wiretapping
lifezette ^ | 20 Sep 2017 | Brendan Kirby

Posted on 09/20/2017 6:59:12 AM PDT by bitt

Warrant came under authority to build counterintelligence operations focused on foreign nations, not criminal cases

CNN on Tuesday loudly trumpeted but then overhyped its big scoop in special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation — that the former chairman of President Donald Trump’s presidential campaign was the subject of a wiretap.

News anchors around the clock suggested that the wiretap authorized by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) Court means that political operative Paul Manafort was probably guilty and speculated that perhaps Trump himself was implicated.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: djt; manafort; mueller; russia; russiagate; spyingonusgate; third100days; trump; trumprussia; trumpwiretapped; trumpwiretaps; wiretapping
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To: Liz
Did Obama's request for a FISA warrant stipulate that Obama's CIA director Brennan used phony foreign intel as a pretext for a multi-agency investigation into candidate Trump?M=

Brennan, Clapper and Comey must have thought their lies were OK because Hillary was going to be President and she was the QUEEN OF THE LIARS. Guess Hillary's butt kissers in 'intelligence' got it wrong.

21 posted on 09/20/2017 11:16:56 AM PDT by GOPJ ("$3 Million Dollars 'PER DAY' is spent to incarcerate criminal illegals.That's $1.2 Billion a year.")
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To: GOPJ

Nails it.


22 posted on 09/20/2017 11:18:17 AM PDT by Liz (Four boxes to defend liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo; used in that order.)
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To: Grampa Dave

bfl


23 posted on 09/21/2017 2:53:38 AM PDT by ImNotLying (The Constitution is an instrument for the people to restrain the government...Patrick Henry)
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To: bitt

It may have been ostensibly legitimate to tap Manafort in 2014, if they thought Russians were using his services illegally or if Manafort was not reporting his services appropriately (I leave Constitutional questions about his freedom to associate for a different debate). Where it gets really troubling is that they stopped the tap, and then restarted it around the time he signed on to the Trump campaign. This smacks of political espionage - using the instruments of state against the political opposition. Because of this, I am certain Mueller will come up with some charge against Manafort no matter how specious it may be. They have to cover for the establishment and try to give legitimacy to what appears to be yet another of the many abuses of power people the Obama administration in which have been involved. This issue cannot truly be isolated since it is just one of many allegations of abuse of power.

Another interesting twist is how this feeds into the Russia hysteria. How far in advance did the Democrats plan this Trump+Russia canard? I think it was probably just a happy coincidence for Hillary and the DNC. They knew they had this tap on Manafort, and after the DNC emails were leaked they concocted this Russia hacking story knowing they had this weak investigation to point to. If they won, would they have come down on Trump like a ton of bricks? I guess yes, because he flat campaigned on “crooked Hillary” issue and this would have been payback. They lost and found it a useful distraction and political tool to try to weaken the Trump admin.

A great irony here is how Hillary and the DNC were able to use the instruments of state as a political weapon while accusing Trump of using the instruments of a foreign nation. Both would be technically illegal. The use of wiretaps against political opposition is, imo, a far worse crime against the Republic. Besides the ability to tap the Trump campaign, Hillary had access to endless ream of foreign intelligence thanks to her tenure as Sec of State and connections in the executive branch. But none of that, not even the open collusion with Ukraine and the massive financial contributions she received from Russia and the rest of the world, is even a topic of discussion. The abuse of power in the mere existence of the Clinton Foundation alone should have been disqualifying. Ignoring the issue of financial contributions, the fact that she as the presumptive nominee and next POTUS was using the CF to peddle influence gave her a huge advantage - in money, in media influence, in institutional support and so on. Disgraceful. And I cannot imagine any other candidate at any other time being able to pull that off without reproach. Yet she did, which is very scary in what it implies about corruption in the USA.


24 posted on 09/21/2017 3:06:58 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Sir Napsalot

save for later


25 posted on 09/21/2017 4:14:33 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = USSR; Journ0List + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey)
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To: monkeyshine
I believe the corruption in our government has never been so well known ... and yet the criminals are not held accountable or prosecuted.

The citizenry has been dumbed down by government run education indoctrination and led astray with disinformation and propaganda and mind numbed with entertainment to the extent they can no longer focus on what this means for the survival or our Republic.

We are hanging by a thread, and there is a candle burning beneath it.

26 posted on 09/21/2017 4:59:51 AM PDT by Comment Not Approved (When bureaucrats outlaw hunting, outlaws will hunt bureaucrats.)
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To: Comment Not Approved

I can’t help but think it has reached a zenith. But you could be right, it may just be that information is reaching us now more than ever.

There is a political science theory called “regulatory capture” that basically argues that regulating agencies end up being captive to the industries they regulate because nearly all of their interaction is with they people they regulate, and because there are few other interests lobbying for attention. We see this most obviously in the SEC where regulators serve a few years and then jump into a hedge fund job. Can’t help but think of the opportunities for quid pro quo there; get some dirt on a stock market participant and instead of doing the job leverage it by blackmail into a million dollar career. Even Congress pretty much abdicates everything to the executive branch unless there is a major scandal such as the IRS targeting conservatives, but even in cases like that they just hold hearings but dole out nothing worse than forcing someone to take their pension early. No punishment. No real reform. Those regulated lobby for regulations knowing the ways to avoid them. This is not an argument for regulation rather an argument why it is doomed to fail in the most critical areas while enabling all types of corruption up and down the chain.

We could rattle off a list of known faults in Congress; that they are exempt from many of the rules and laws, they can do insider trading, they got the inside track on new regulations and can adjust their investments accordingly and this is just in the “grey area” of corruption. I read a story years ago about a couple of swamp things who bought an island from the US government because they were the ones who engineered its sale from the government. I am told Dianne Feinstein traded some desert land which became a federal reserve in return for interest in a gold mine (unverified). And on and on it can and does go. They will never reform themselves. Party politics really only serves to obscure the corruption while ensuring patronage and preventing internal course correction. To move up the ranks in a party you almost have to corrupt yourself along the way.

And even the little things mean a lot to them. Sugar price supports is an often cited example. If the price of sugar goes up 2 cents a pound it means hundreds of millions to the sugar producers and yet there will be no cry from the people who barely notice the 12 cents per month they have to spend. But the avenues for corruption in that alone are incredible.

The regulation, compounded with the regulatory capture, compounded by the lack of oversight is open door to corruption. And it sure seems like its gotten worse as more clever ways to exploit any one issue materialize. Like I said above, I cannot imagine how Hillary was able to get away with using office of Sec of State to raise billions in private donations. It may come back around after all (for a variety of reasons and laws broken) but the total lack of resistance to it at the time is mind blowing. Can you imagine anyone, any time before or again, who would be able to do that? And what does the silence really tell us about the feeding frenzy at the trough?

We have to blow out that candle and start to tie more threads to the Republic. We all have to speak up a little more. It isn’t going to change unless the people demand it. Some in the media are biting around the edges but a lot of the time it reads like controlled opposition, while others unfortunately have a tone that turns people off. I believe there are still some Democrats who are furious - even if they, like many on the right, don’t know where to point their anger. A natural “bi-partisan” coalition is out there imo, if the right message is coolly but relentlessly delivered to the people. We will always disagree on policy but I think most people can agree that the rules of the game need to change. Political power had to be decentralized. While “Obamacare” may never be fully repealed the Senate bill to devolve control via block grants to the states is a small step in the right direction. At some point though the system itself needs to change to where Washington is dispossessed from the idea that they can regulate, tax and spend in any area they choose and any manner they dictate whether it is command & control or “block grants”. The Republic was not designed nor built to be managed in the way it has been over the last two generations and is only now starting to reveal its faults.


27 posted on 09/21/2017 7:59:56 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: monkeyshine

*******


28 posted on 09/21/2017 3:02:18 PM PDT by bitt (The press takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literal)
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To: Liz; Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Oooooooo........scary.”

BOL!

What is really scary is the data that Ernest at the Beach, you and others are posting daily re ITGATE and Spygate!

Then, how that data is ignored by the MMS Mediots, the Rats in charge of the DNC, and our never Trumpsters, who try to turn that data into a hit against Trump and his people.


29 posted on 09/22/2017 7:14:08 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Did voting for Trump for President, make 62+ million of us into Deplorable Racists/Nazis? NO! NADA!)
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To: Liz

New keyword: spyingonusgate


30 posted on 09/22/2017 7:17:04 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Did voting for Trump for President, make 62+ million of us into Deplorable Racists/Nazis? NO! NADA!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Another winner......


31 posted on 09/22/2017 8:11:22 AM PDT by Liz (Four boxes to defend liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo; used in that order.)
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To: Liz

Thanks.

Keyword searches work so easy Free Republic versus its so called search system.

New keyword for Obama spying on Trump, his people and us:

spyingonusgate


32 posted on 09/22/2017 8:19:57 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Did voting for Trump for President, make 62+ million of us into Deplorable Racists/Nazis? NO! NADA!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom; bitt; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Mueller for Prison.

33 posted on 09/25/2017 9:41:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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