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Dealing with Democrats? Protecting 'Dreamers'? That's just fine with these Trump supporters
LA Times ^ | 09/15/2017 | Michael Finnegan and Mark Z. Barabak

Posted on 09/16/2017 5:36:59 AM PDT by MaxistheBest

Donald Trump’s tough talk on illegal immigration was a big part of the reason Dave Hagstrom and many others in this booming Phoenix suburb supported him for president. “Walls make good neighbors,” Hagstrom said.

So when the president moved this week to cut a deal — with Democrats no less — to block the expulsion of 800,000 immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally as children, was Hagstrom disappointed?

Not at all.

“If you were to deport them, where would they go?” Hagstrom, 60, a car-warranty manager, asked on his way to a Bible-study dinner at an upscale shopping mall. “To send them across the border would be inhumane almost. There’s no life for them there.”

Trump’s fiery rhetoric and promise to seal the U.S. border with Mexico attracted millions of supporters in last year’s election, many of them older white conservatives like the ones who repeatedly elected immigration hard-liner Joe Arpaio as sheriff here in Maricopa County.

But as Trump shifted this week to a softer approach on the young immigrants in legal limbo through no fault of their own, many of his most die-hard supporters moved right along with him — among them Arpaio, who was ousted in November by voters tired of his inflammatory approach.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; americans; children; culpability; culpable; daca; dacapoll; illegals; trump; trumpdaca; trumpwall; wall
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To: odawg
Same goes with trannies in the military.

Mattis says Transgender troops will be allowed to re-enlist for now: report

61 posted on 09/16/2017 11:55:04 AM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: crz
Here, I got a test for these.

I got a test for you.

Is there one politician that gives a cr@p what we want? Mattis just said that Trannies can reenlist while they figure out what to do. Trump cedes more power to his elitist cabinet.

62 posted on 09/16/2017 11:58:09 AM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: shanover
We are going to get scammed again by illegal immigration legislation “deals” via both parties.

He gave Congress 6 months to solve the problem just like he gave the Trannies in the military 6 months for Mattis to study it. Reports today say Mattis will allow current Trannies to reenlist.

There is a Bible extortion to let your nays mean nay and let your yeas mean yea. Unless President Trump makes it clear who is issuing orders we are in danger of losing the next election.

63 posted on 09/16/2017 12:04:42 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: GOPJ
Total cost a whopping $538.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR !

Are you crazy they pay their taxes and are a net plus to our economy, read it right here. </s>

64 posted on 09/16/2017 12:10:59 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: GOPJ
Democrats and “NeverTrumpers” will take the parts of any ‘deals’ they like and won’t fund the parts they don’t like... REPUBLICANS MUST STOP BEING PLAYED FOR FOOLS..

Hey the people that oppose these deals are the #NeverTrumpers been told so right here many times.

65 posted on 09/16/2017 12:13:35 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: semantic
Never forget that Nov 2018 is the second most important election after 2016. Trump gains extra support, and his entire agenda will be rammed through, with ramifications lasting 50 years.

If you thing caving on DACA is a winning issue then we have lost already. Trannies are reenlisting now per Mattis. I am pretty sure President Trump said they had to go.

66 posted on 09/16/2017 12:17:53 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: itsahoot

extortion=exhortation


67 posted on 09/16/2017 12:20:19 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: Twotone

I would agree with that as well, green card, but no citizenship.


68 posted on 09/16/2017 12:53:00 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: polymuser; Yardstick

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DACA survives only after the entire wall is fully funded, and applies only for existing trespassers. Then, full adherence to DACA’s less-friendly requirements and a clean-up of its considerable fraud and waste.
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R-I-G-H-T. A govt that ADMITS it cannot even track those is gives visas, sends YUGE ‘refunds’ (20+) to the SAME address, etc. is going to:
1) ham-string itself on a election gimmick (border wall, immigration ‘reform’, to-be voters, etc.)
2) During an ELECTION cycle?!
3) Somehow *KNOW* which *UNDOCUMENTED* are ‘old’ (criminals) vs. ‘new’
4) Cut-off the flow from then on out.

BWAHAHahahahaha


69 posted on 09/16/2017 3:19:30 PM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: semantic

“Trump gains extra support, and his entire agenda will be rammed through, with ramifications lasting 50 years.”

I like the sound of that


70 posted on 09/16/2017 6:36:31 PM PDT by enumerated
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To: 2banana

Dick Morris called it that.

It was mostly smoke and mirrors, one balanced budget. Although Clinton did sign (watered down) welfare reform, he may very well have lost to Dole if he had not.


71 posted on 09/16/2017 9:57:28 PM PDT by Impy (The democrat party is the enemy of your family and civilization itself, forget that at your peril.)
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To: itsahoot

I’d like better hurricane shelters... we can use the money we waste on ‘illegals’ year after year to pay for that - AFTER WE PAY FOR THE WALL... AND RETIRE THE NATIONAL DEBT:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3585376/posts

LINK:

Over 80% of Americans demand secured borders and illegal migration stopped. But what would happen if all 20 million or more vacated America? The answers I found may surprise you!

In California, if 3.5 million illegal aliens moved back to Mexico, it would leave an extra $10.2 billion to spend on overloaded school systems, bankrupt hospitals and overrun prisons. It would leave highways cleaner, safer and less congested. Everyone could understand one another as English became the dominant language again.

In Colorado, 500,000 illegal migrants, plus their 300,000 kids and grandchilds would move back “home,” mostly to Mexico. That would save Colorado an estimated $2 billion (other experts say $7 billion) annually in taxes that pay for schooling, medical, social-services and incarceration costs. It means 12,000 gang members would vanish out of Denver alone.

Colorado would save more than $20 million in prison costs, and the terror that those 7,300 alien criminals set upon local citizens. Denver Officer Don Young and hundreds of Colorado victims would not have suffered death, accidents, rapes and other crimes by illegals.

Denver Public Schools would not suffer a 67% dropout/flunk rate because of thousands of illegal alien students speaking 41 different languages. At least 200,000 vehicles would vanish from our gridlocked cities in Colorado. Denver’s 4% unemployment rate would vanish as our working poor would gain jobs at a living wage.

In Florida, 1.5 million illegals would return the Sunshine State back to America, the rule of law, and English.

In Chicago, Illinois, 2.1 million illegals would free up hospitals, schools, prisons and highways for a safer, cleaner and more crime-free experience.

If 20 million illegal aliens returned ‘home,’ the U.S. Economy would return to the rule of law. Employers would hire legal American citizens at a living wage. Everyone would pay their fair share of taxes because they wouldn’t be working off the books. That would result in an additional $401 billion in IRS income taxes collected annually, and an equal amount for local, state and city coffers.

No more push ‘1’ for Spanish or ‘2’ for English. No more confusion in American schools that now must contend with over 100 languages that degrade the educational system for American kids. Our overcrowded schools would lose more than two million illegal alien kids at a cost of billions in ESL and free breakfasts and lunches.

We would lose 500,000 illegal criminal alien inmates at a cost of more than $1.6 billion annually. That includes 15,000 MS-13 gang members who distribute $130 billion in drugs annually would vacate our country.

In cities like L.A., 20,000 members of the ‘18th Street Gang’ would vanish from our nation. No more Mexican forgery gangs for ID theft from Americans! No more foreign rapists and child molesters!

Losing more than 20 million people would clear up our crowded highways and gridlock. Cleaner air and less drinking and driving American deaths by illegal aliens!

America’s economy is drained. Taxpayers are harmed. Employers get rich. Over $80 billion annually wouldn’t return to the aliens’ home countries by cash transfers. Illegal migrants earned half that money untaxed, which further drains America ‘s economy which currently suffers an $8.7 trillion debt. $8.7 trillion debt!!!

At least 400,000 anchor babies would not be born in our country, costing us $109 billion per year per cycle. At least 86 hospitals in California, Georgia and Florida would still be operating instead of being bankrupt out of existence because illegals pay nothing via the EMTOLA Act. Americans wouldn’t suffer thousands of TB and hepatitis cases rampant in our country - brought in by illegals unscreened at our borders.


72 posted on 09/17/2017 7:34:41 AM PDT by GOPJ ("$3 Million Dollars 'PER DAY' is spent to incarcerate criminal illegals.That's $1.2 Billion a year.")
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To: Uncle Sam 911
The Democrats are experts at knowing Republicans want to be liked. So they smile at us, whisper nice things, have dinner with us, commit to “bipartisanship” so long as it means we went over to their ideas and they end up singing victory songs all the way home. They never stop and we never learn.

This should be posted daily...

73 posted on 09/17/2017 7:48:16 AM PDT by GOPJ ("$3 Million Dollars 'PER DAY' is spent to incarcerate criminal illegals.That's $1.2 Billion a year.")
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