Posted on 09/15/2017 12:31:26 PM PDT by DFG
Have you ever served? The military is anything but what you describe it as. Your attitude and Capt Hernandez’s attitude are the very reason why I no longer trust organized religion. I don’t need the church to have a relationship with God and Jesus. I don’t need holier than thou clowns preaching dumb crap to me.
This Nina Burleigh wouldn't recognize a Christian pastor if one fell from the sky!
“I think he was being sarcastic.”
If only. Take a look at his post history and try again. I wouldn’t be surprised to hear some claims that heretics like William Tyndale had it coming.
OK
IOW, warped and twisted twice, just to make sure.
Without morons like this Hernandez then Weinstein would have a whole lot less to complain about.
Exactly what would the complaint be in this case? A major general is not allowed to publicly express her faith? This was at a prayer breakfast.
In the context of this article, Major General Bentz is obviously one of those Christians who Captain Hernandez says is "grossly in error or deceived."
Would you say then that all non-Christian servicemen and women should immediately be discharged from the military so that the immortal souls of the Christian servicemen and women are not placed in danger by the temptation of tolerance for other faiths?
Pardon, Reverend, but how do you propose we “untolerate”?
This chaplain, as were all of us, is supposed to be a representative of his religion. That is why we have a diversity of denominations and religions represented in the military. By public law, they are supposed to be themselves. A Southern Baptist is supposed to be a Southern Baptist and not be a Methodist or a Mormon or a Roman Catholic.
Likewise, when a known Roman Catholic had Roman Catholic questions I would send him to the Roman Catholic chaplain. If a Methodist came to one of them with a Methodist issue, they were supposed to send him to me.
If, however, they came to me with a family budget question, a suicidal ideation, a problem getting along with their platoon sergeant, or a marriage relationship issue, then I dealt with it as a general issue and not as a denomination based issue.
Is this very fundamentalist chaplain allowed to be himself? In fact, he’s supposed to be himself. There are people of his persuasion in the military that believe like him and he will directly support their religious needs.
Should he be telling Chistians they owe their first allegiance to the Kingdom of God? You bet. That’s what his denomination believes. All of them do, if we wanted to be honest about Christian denominations.
God has established all authority, including the Constitution imo.
Bible-believing military chaplains align themselves with the right endorser appeal to Scripture alone,
oy gevalt
It doesn’t matter to me if you trust “organized religion” or not...The constitution is no longer being minded by “Christian minded” persons and thus the country is now cut from it’s religious moorings and heritage. You will need your relationship with Jesus Christ when the nation around you falls apart and its legacy constitutional freedoms have been subverted, as he will be your only source of comfort(that and fellow believers) when Christians in this nation are ostracized and actively persecuted! Washington said that it is “religion and morality that were the twin props on which our freedoms rested”(meaning Judeo- Christianity). Since you say you have a relationship with Jesus...what part of “the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord and of his Christ” have you never understood?
There was a point that the Hebrew midwives of Egypt reached and had to face...obey Pharoah’s orders and kill the newborn Hebrew males, or fear God and disobey Pharoah. The pagans in this nation are forcing a breach and there are fewer places to hide from choosing to stand for God or to deny him! So mistrust organized religion if you must but as a believer in Christ...they will still come for you!
By the way...this is what Hernandez actually said...(to repost from an entry on this thread)
“All service members have taken the oath to support and defend the Constitution. Taking an oath to defend the Constitution, does not require a service member to compromise their own sincerely held beliefs in the process, nor does it force a service member to accept a worldview that is antithetical to their own. According to the First Amendment, there is freedom of religion, and freedom of speech. Therefore, Christians in the Armed Forces should feel free to espouse and practice their convictions, and even deny participating, or accommodating a religion or practice that would cause them to sin—regardless if it offends others or not.
Military chaplains are not forced to do anything that would violate what their conscience dictates, and chaplains are not allowed to conduct themselves in any way that would compromise their ecclesiastical endorsement convictions. This is why it is imperative that Bible-believing military chaplains align themselves with the right endorser that has sincerely held beliefs that appeal to Scripture alone, and will not support or accommodate evil.
Therefore, if military chaplains are criticized by individuals for not accommodating all service members, and are told to resign from the military since they cannot care for all, just ask them this question: “Does the free exercise of religion apply to ‘all’ service members or only service members whose beliefs concur with yours?” If the response is: “Military chaplains must provide for all or they are not fit to serve,” they are now guilty of violating their own criteria of providing for all, since they are establishing a religion that requires every service member to accommodate evil even if their sincerely held convictions prohibit them from doing so. However, if they respond to the question by saying that the free exercise of religion is for “all,” simply tell them: Thank you very much.’
Context provides clarity...now go stew in your own “antijudgmentalist judgmentarianisn” for awhile” oh believer in Christ!
“In the context of this article, Major General Bentz is obviously one of those Christians who Captain Hernandez says is ‘grossly in error or deceived.’”
I recommend not taking any complaint against a Christian, Catholic, or religious Jew from the media at face value. In fact, I’d summarily dismiss everything they say because it is coming from group who hates all these categories of people.
(Well they may tolerate Pelosi’s Catholic views, or Obama’s Protestant views, or the views of those who practice Judaism to the extent of Bernie Sanders or maybe even Joe Lieberman, just as long as they subscribe the liberal religious tenet of abortion as a sacrament.)
I can’t speak for Captain Hernandez, but I don’t need to. He’s entitled to his opinions and his faith. He can either help people in his capacity as chaplain or he can not. He should be assigned where he will do the most good and offend the least people. But he is still entitled to his beliefs.
On what basis?
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