Posted on 09/14/2017 6:12:05 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
The electric power generation companies must be dancing in the street (someone has to power the grid up for all the recharging that electric cars will need to do), and they won’t care if they have to close efficient power plants and plaster solar and wind generators on every piece of available landscape - and charge more for the electricity delivered.
The calculations on electric cars are very one-sided, and no one is looking at the increased energy and economic demand on the electric power generation side.
The U.S. should not follow this route and if countries are going to ban internal combustion vehicles, the U.S. should ban the import of electric vehicles from them.
Ignored by all who think electric cars would go along way towards easing “global warming” is that cars are NOT the major contributors to CO2 generation - power plants are.
Going 100% nuclear (small safe nuclear) would reduce CO2 emissions more than twice as much as banning the internal combustion engine.
Solar and wind are not going to pick up the extra electric power generation for the added demand of 100% electric vehicles. That means - without a lot more nuclear - increased CO2 emissions from electric power generation will offset “savings” from electric vehicles.
Fools are the politicians in charge of this idea.
IMO copper is the least problematic of the materials needed. At least some of that is mined here in the U.S.A. with plenty of regulations &c. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_copper_production)
If you want to shame the leftists via the evils of the materials needed, let’s talk about cobalt and rare earth elements required that are not found in the U.S. but are mined by child labor in third-world countries.
So, steam engines? They are EXTERNAL combustion engines, you know. Or their their mechanical analogs, a Stirling hot-air engine.
All you need is a heat source. Which could come from a very small version of a Thorium-fueled molten salt reactor, small enough to be put in the trunk of a vehicle.
Actually, they are found in the US. The ore just isn't high enough concentration to compete with the Chinese stuff.
Me too.
Gas stations depend upon electricity to pump their gas OMG!
Seriously though, there are upsides and downsides to every type of vehicle. Electric vehicles have their place. Long distance driving typically isn’t one of them. But, out of fuel is out of fuel, and when the electricity goes down so do gas stations, as anyone who’s living through the aftermath of Harvey or Irma can surely attest.
So, if you dislike electric vehicles, you might want to find a different scenario that makes them appear impractical.
“Gas stations depend upon electricity to pump their gas OMG!”
Tsk, Tsk; don’t know what I’m going to do with you. I have nothing against EV’s they’re just not as flexible as gas and diesel powered autos. True that gas pumps require electricity. However, they are running many gas stations in Florida with generators. There’s lots of other options too; gas cans, directly from fuel trucks, tankers, etc. EV’s are restricted to using a recharging station. Can you imagine what the line would look like, even if a charging site had several charging stations, waiting for a full charge at two hours per charge?
Imagine all the fat truck drivers. While they sit for 12 hrs charging their batteries at the truck stop they will sit and eat at the diner.
Gas stations don’t just have generators sitting there waiting for a power outage, typically. I’m very familiar with the problems of evacuees or potential evacuees, once the first wave from the FL east coast had bought up all the gas. A lot of people stayed put because they didn’t think they’d be able to get much of anywhere due to lack of gasoline. Some of it was due to power outage, most was due to panic buying driven by MSM hysteria. A charged up electric vehicle would get you farther up the road in that environment than a gas engined car needing a fill up, it’s all relative to circumstance and what you intend to do. Not that very many people attempted to evacuate in an EV other than possibly a Tesla which has a range roughly equivalent to a gasoline powered vehicle.
“Gas stations don’t just have generators sitting there waiting for a power outage”
There’s such a thing as mobile generators. And, they’re available from many sources, including the military. Geez, turn that thinker on...
You turn yours on, they don’t just sit there waiting for a power outage, they have to be sourced which means what? Your turn, strain out a thought or two but don’t sprain anything, lol.
Actually, Mobil generators are very common. Lots of folks in the construction business use them, farmers, ranchers, even my daughters soccer team had one to power lights so to practice in the evening when hot during the summer. Rounding some to power gas stations for awhile would be easy, no brainer.
I figured 'it can't happen here'. And now, we have the elites across the world working to destroy transportation. Like Stalin still had his food, these people will still have their cars.
Words fail me.
Anyone that failed to keep their vehicle’s fuel tank and at least a 5 gallon jerry can full during the 2 week build-up to the storm’s arrival DESERVES to sit in a line waiting for fuel.
That single tank of fuel in 99.9% of ICE vehicles WILL get you further than any available electric car, period. Then you have the 5 gallons to get to where there likely IS fuel available if you haven’t yet arrived there.
Batteries have a LONG way to go to compare with the energy storage liquid fuels like gasoline and diesel offer. We are already pushing the point of diminishing returns with aerodynamics, so that strategy won’t help.
Actually, the regular, easy-to-use cans were basically sued out of existence by trial sharks representing burn victims who apparently did not know that pouring gasoline on a fire could cause the gasoline in the can to catch fire.
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