Posted on 09/08/2017 7:05:47 PM PDT by Kaslin
Friday on The View, hosts Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar revealed they were still in denial over the 2016 election results. Discussing the leaked excerpts from Hillary Clinton’s upcoming memoir, the two die-hard liberals at the table clashed with moderate hosts Paula Faris and Jedediah Bila, over the reasons why Clinton lost the election.
Joy Behar even went so far as to claim that Clinton really did “win” the election, while Whoopi went into conspiracy theory land, saying we would “never know” why Clinton really lost.
The conversation started by discussing Bernie Sanders recent television appearance, where he told Clinton to essentially “move on” after she blamed him for losing the election. That morphed into a discussion on why Clinton lost, and what chances she had at winning.
Whoopi began with a confusing spiel that seemed to argue that it was Fox News’ fault for Clinton losing, because they attacked Obama while he was in office and that irreparably damaged the Democrat party so she couldn’t win:
But let's be realistic. Do you really think she was going to win? Based on everything that the Democrats did when they let Obama -- left him out there floating and the flotsam and jetsam and all this stuff that Fox News did and all those folks. You know, there have been very few eight years of one party and eight years of the same party. It doesn't generally go back to back. The last time I think was Nixon and whoever came in after him was the last. Ford. And he pardoned. That was the last time we had a long stretch. When it wasn't Democrat, Republican, Democrat Republican. So given all the crap that Obama had to eat from his own party, I don't think Bernie was going to -- I don't think any Democrat was going to--people were going to vote --
Behar then revealed she was still clinging to the liberal conspiracy theory that somehow the electoral college didn’t count:
JOY BEHAR: But she did win. She did win! [applause]BILA: She didn't win though because the electoral college is what determines---
Whoopi took a different approach, instead suggesting that the election was unfair and there was secret reasons as to why Clinton lost that we would “never” find out:
WHOOPI: I believe that was not going to happen. The truth of the matter is, if this election happened in any other country the way it happened here, we would have sent people to go and check. To see what was going on.
Whoopi: 'We Will Never Know' Why Clinton Lost 2016 Election
BEHAR: Yeah.
WHOOPI: We will never know. We'll never know. We'll never know.
Behar took Clinton’s approach in blaming everyone but Clinton, and called the book “patriotic” to all the Americans who didn’t think she got a fair shot:
BEHAR: But don’t forget the things that we do know are that Comey released this information about her two weeks or a week before the election. That was very detrimental to her campaign and everybody who was on the fence said well -- and they're saying crooked Hillary. And they're saying ‘Oh yeah crooked Hillary’ and he confirms it in a way and he says nothing about the Trump investigation and then you have the Russians interfering with our election. There were so many things that went against her that I think she has every right to write a book and speak about it. [ Applause ]
BILA: She has a right--
BEHAR: It’s patriotic and it’s in the interest of the country. [ Talking over one another ]
Host Paula Faris tried to bring up the fact that Clinton wouldn’t take any responsibility for losing the election, but Behar and Whoopi were already in fantasy land, and denied that Clinton lost “fair and square.” Again, Whoopi brought up her theory that the election was rigged against Clinton:
FARIS: I think at some point you also have to take responsibility and I think if she would say, you know what, I lost fair and square, I think the problem is --
WHOOPI: But we don’t know that she did lose fair and square. See that’s the thing. That’s what I’m saying.
FARIS: Hence when you play a game, you're gracious in victory and you’re gracious in defeat. There's nothing more annoying when you start to blame everybody else. You need to take some responsibility for what you did on the field.
WHOOPI: But your children aren't playing on a game field where the parents are coming and hitting the ball for them. And then saying we won. My simple point is this, had this election happened anywhere else the way it did, we as America would have gone in to check and see all the checks and balances. We'll never know what happened and now is the time for her to say ‘this is how I feel about what went on and I don't like this happened and this is how I feel and this is how it felt to me. This is how I see it’ and she has a right to do that.
As if all other cards hadn’t been played, Behar added the sexism card to the pile:
“Let's not forget misogyny played a big role in this. This country refuses to put a woman in power,” she added emphatically.
Stalinists lie. Always
Go on Whoopi (not your real name), tell us again how the Apollo 11 moon landing was faked. What worthless talk on the 40th anniversary of the man’s first step on the moon. And Joy Behar was there to back her up saying that many people in England think that the landings were faked.
Whoopi doesn’t even know how many abortions she’s had. She says she lost count at 6.
Some people don’t WANT to know certain unpleasant truths.
So, in a way, Bill Clinton provided Trump's margin of victory by his key role in coarsening our culture.
Nice deconstruction.....could not agree more.
Is stupidity a by product of being ugly? After all when a ugly person utters a statement “We will never know why Hillary lost” indicates some one very stupid. People lose elections because of the lack of votes.
Even by Hillary drone standards, this is a particularly entertaining excuse.
An unfair election with secret reasons we may never know about elected Trump.
Hillary not being meaner and nastier elected Trump.
Sexism from Bernie Sanders and his voters elected Trump.
The American people not liking Hillary enough, without reason, elected Trump.
Innuendo and character attacks by Bernie Sanders elected Trump.
White identity politics from whites who felt threatened by black identity politics elected Trump.
Bernie Sanders voters not showing up elected Trump.
A bunch of black swans converging on Hillary in the final 12 days of the election elected Trump.
Wikileaks elected Trump.
Twitter memes elected Trump.
Astrological influences elected Trump.
Blatant sexism and unconscious sexism elected Trump.
People voting against Hillary because Obama is black elected Trump.
Traditionalist attitudes toward women elected Trump.
White voters afraid of losing White Privilege elected Trump.
Democrats doing a poor job of controlling the narrative elected Trump.
A thousand Russian agents working every day elected Trump.
Content farms in Macedonia elected Trump.
The TV networks keeping Hillary off the air elected Trump.
The vast right-wing conspiracy elected Trump.
Infowars elected Trump.
Google elected Trump.
Governor Scott Walker elected Trump.
Steve Bannon elected Trump.
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker elected Trump.
Nate Silver elected Trump.
Citizens United elected Trump.
The DNC being a mess and in poor shape elected Trump.
Bad polling numbers elected Trump.
Obama winning two terms elected Trump.
People wanting change elected Trump.
The New York Times, cable news, and television executives elected Trump.
According to Hillary, “Eight of the top 10 political documentaries on Netflix were screeds against President Obama and me” - Netflix elected Trump.
Democrats not making the right documentaries elected Trump.
The Democrat Party and the Republican Party elected Trump.
Concerns that Hillary Clinton was involved with a child sex trafficking operation elected Trump.
Concern about Hillary Clinton being a lizard elected Trump.
High expectations that Hillary would win elected Trump.
Voter suppression elected Trump.
FBI Director Comey announcing a criminal investigation into Hillary’s felonies just over a week before the election, when he had little reason to think there was anything there, elected Trump.
The Russians ransacking Hillary’s computer files and strategically leaking the truth elected Trump.
Misogyny elected Trump.
Gary Johnson and Jill Stein voters elected Trump.
Advocacy press on the right elected Trump.
Facebook elected Trump.
Old, out-of-touch democrats with a flawed message that alienated young voters elected Trump.
White nationalists elected Trump.
Hatred of Hillary Clinton at the FBI (how could anyone hate a lovable woman like Hillary?) elected Trump.
FBI investigation elected Trump.
Email scandal elected Trump.
Black voters not liking Hillary elected Trump.
Fewer than 100,000 deplorable voters spread across a handful of states elected Trump.
People hating Hillary because she is so professional, so polished, such a wonderful lawyer, so brilliant, so good, so righteous, and so much better than us elected Trump.
The lack of energy among Hillary supporters and expectations of Hillary being the inevitable winner, because it was her turn, elected Trump.
Robby Mook selecting the wrong travel stops for Hillary and spending heavily in the wrong states elected Trump.
Hillary’s campaign team failing to hone her message and get voters to the polls elected Trump.
Bill Clinton’s appearance of an inappropriate meeting with Attorney General Loretta Lynch elected Trump.
The ugly stew of racism elected Trump.
Hillary’s alleged lack of likability and claimed lack of trustworthiness elected Trump.
Self-hating women elected Trump.
Evangelical, Catholic, anti-marriage equality, and anti-choice social conservatives elected Trump.
Sinister outside forces elected Trump.
Whitelash elected Trump.
Democrat policies that favor the rich elected Trump.
Failure to talk to working-class white voters elected Trump.
Men elected Trump.
Lower-level FBI agents pressuring their Director (because that’s how professional relationships work) elected Trump.
Tim Kaine gave Hillary Virginia, but he also elected Trump.
White women elected Trump.
Racists elected Trump.
Sexists elected Trump.
Rural voters elected Trump.
The working class voting against their own interests elected Trump.
Fake news elected Trump.
Supermarket tabloids elected Trump.
Celebrity (The Apprentice) elected Trump.
White male resentment elected Trump.
Over-shaming Trump supporters elected Trump.
Rejecting Bernie elected Trump.
Reagan democrats elected Trump.
Backlash against political correctness elected Trump.
There are many terrible reasons for President Trump’s victory, but there are two things that were not a factor. First, Hillary was the perfect candidate; nothing she did harmed her candidacy in any way. Second, President Trump was the worst candidate imaginable; nothing he did helped his candidacy at all, except with racists, sexists, bigots, and the rest of the basket of deplorables.
Excellent point - and very funny!
They are soooo dense. It is simply because there are more of us than there are of them; and, the stakes were high enough for a good voter turnout.
“Woopy’s right - she may never know why Hillary lost.”
How is it that a brilliant, intellectual, PRogressive genius like her (she even wears brilliant, intellectual, Progressive-genius glasses) can’t figure out why Hillary lost when she always knows the answers to everything else?
Just saying.
IMHO
Let me help them then. Clinton lost because she ran a very bad campaign and Trump got a lot more electoral votes than she did. Easy peasy.
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