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ACLU to Trump: Only Congress can authorize North Korea military action
The Hill ^ | September 5, 2017 | Rebecca Kheel

Posted on 09/05/2017 3:03:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When seconds count, congressional action is only months away.


61 posted on 09/05/2017 3:49:37 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The president actually has the authority to order military action for something like 90 days without a Congressional declaration of war.

I’m surprised that no one at the ACLU is aware of the president’s authority as commander in chief. I thought they had a lawyer or two on staff, but I guess I thought wrong.


62 posted on 09/05/2017 3:50:29 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The ACLU couldn’t be more clear with it’s treachery than this.

Now we’re supposed to take a nuclear strike, just so they aren’t offended.

Honestly, I’d love to see every ACLU office burnt to the ground in one night.

I would never advocated for it, never participate in it, and urge my pals not to be involved, but damn they are an anti-American bunch.


63 posted on 09/05/2017 3:51:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (One man's DACA, is 330 million other men's caca.)
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To: downtownconservative
LMAO.


64 posted on 09/05/2017 3:52:27 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dear ACLU,

Your opinions are certainly not “American” or “Civil”, but they are clearly uninformed regarding Constitutional Law.


65 posted on 09/05/2017 3:52:30 PM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: DoughtyOne

I can see where the ACLU is coming from. They need to move to North Korea immediately.

It’s the only option.


66 posted on 09/05/2017 3:53:58 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The “War Powers Act” says the ACLU is wrong. But then the “Wars Powers Act” is just another abrogation of its Constitutional responsibility by the thoroughly corrupt and useless US Congress.


67 posted on 09/05/2017 3:55:20 PM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: SaveFerris

No, North Korea follows our Constitution perfectly. No need to watch out for government abuse there. /s


68 posted on 09/05/2017 3:57:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (One man's DACA, is 330 million other men's caca.)
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To: KingofZion

ACLU just wants to protect communist Korea from the US. Maybe they should move there.


69 posted on 09/05/2017 4:00:35 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No worries.

The Authorization to Use Military Force (AUMF) has already been approved by the worthless Congress and it has no end date.

We’re “fighting terrorism”. Yeah, that’s the ticket. Terrorism.

Just wonderin’...where was ACLU when we took out Serbia, Libya, and started in on Syria? Why didn’t they speak up on those?


70 posted on 09/05/2017 4:00:36 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: DoughtyOne

ACLU should all go there anyway. Permanently. To their 5-star hotel. Or whatever that concrete pyramid is. SPLC can join them.


71 posted on 09/05/2017 4:07:14 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The War Powers Act concedes that the commander-in-chief’s role gives the President power to repel attacks against the United States and makes the President responsible for leading the armed forces. It provides that the President can send the armed forces into action abroad only by declaration of war by Congress, “statutory authorization,” or in case of “a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.”

There are more US military personnel serving in Japan than in any other country. According to Department of Defense data, 39,345 troops are stationed across 112 bases, a hangover from the second world war when American forces occupied Japan.

Headquartered in Japan, the Seventh Fleet is the largest of the US navy’s deployed sea forces, with roughly 50¬-70 ships and submarines, 140 aircraft and approximately 20,000 sailors across the Indian Ocean and the Pacific.
After Germany, with 34,805 troops, South Korea is the third largest host of US military forces, with 23,468 people on duty at 83 sites. More than 300 tanks, including the powerful M1 Abrams, and armoured vehicles are stationed there. In April the US installed a Terminal High-Altitude Area Defence system, or Thaad, in the country with the purpose of using interceptor missiles to destroy incoming missiles in mid-flight.

Tack that on to military members in such places as Okinawa, Guam, Hawaii, and Diego Garcia, and it leads the person to understand that any aggressive actions committed by North Korea will involve an attack on military or civilian personel of the United States.

The last declared war for the United States was World War II. In fact, Congress has only declared war in five of our military engagements in our nation’s history – the War of 1812, the Mexican-American War, the Spanish-American War, World War I, and World War II. There is no necessity for a declaration of war to accompany every military action. The details and procedures of such a requirement would be burdensome and obstructive to the President’s need to be decisive and swift in military matters, when quick action is called for.

In short, here are the President’s powers as Commander in Chief:

1. He can order U.S. forces into military action if, in his judgment, the safety or strategic interests of the United States are threatened. Period.
2. He must inform Congress of these actions within 48 hours of the event.
3. The troops cannot be committed for more than 60 days, without Congressional approval. He may use an additional 30 days to re-deploy the troops.
4. Until a new Authorization for the Use of Military Force (AUMF) is passed by Congress, our last three presidents have all used the AUMF passed after 9/11/2001 as broad permission to fight all terror groups and acts of terror, anywhere in the world. This is the justification for the thousands of troops presently deployed to Iraq and Syria, and for other Special Operations missions in places like Somalia and Yemen, and North Korea.

But this is not new.The legality of a U.S. President authorizing military actions without prior congressional approval was questioned by some in the administrations of every President in recent history: Obama (Libya and the raid to kill Bin Laden), George W. Bush (the initial attacks after 9-11), Clinton (Kosovo, Haiti, Iraq), George H.W. Bush (Panama), Reagan (Grenada, Lebanon, and Libya), Carter (the failed mission to rescue the Iran hostages) and Ford (Vietnam and Mayaguez incident). Each of these Presidents ordered the U.S. military into action without the prior approval of Congress.

So this is nothing more than brainless attacks against Trump trying to use the media to pander votes in the next presidential election. And this one is inconsistent, and even more idiotic than the rest of them.

rwood


72 posted on 09/05/2017 4:08:44 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

AMERICAN COMMUNIST LAWYERS UNION


73 posted on 09/05/2017 4:08:53 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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To: Mariner

President Truman got authorization from the United Nations in 1950, which has never been rescinded to my knowledge. That’s why the headquarters in Seoul is called United Nations command.


74 posted on 09/05/2017 4:09:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The ACLU seems to forget that we are still at war with North Korea, as there was only a cease fire, not an armistice.


75 posted on 09/05/2017 4:10:34 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: DannyTN

We might be technically still at “police action” with North Korea. Last time Congress declared war was in June, 1942 against Germany’s allies, Hungary, Romania, and Bulgaria. It is true that the Korean War ended in an armistice, not a peace treaty.


76 posted on 09/05/2017 4:10:45 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: SaveFerris

Works for me...

They want to turn the U.S. into a Communist workers paradise.

It always turns into a worker’s nightmare though.


77 posted on 09/05/2017 4:12:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (One man's DACA, is 330 million other men's caca.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The members of the ACLU would gladly get on their knees for the commie dictator.


78 posted on 09/05/2017 4:29:23 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Lying Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: bgill

“The American Civil Liberties Union strongly urges you to uphold the Constitution”

I’m still waiting for the ACLU to uphold the Constitution and defend my 2nd Amendment rights in NJ.


79 posted on 09/05/2017 4:52:31 PM PDT by alephnull (Islam is not a religion of peace. It is a cult of death.)
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To: Skywise
(more to the point only congress can FUND a war)

Did Congress fund that $150 billion in cash that Obama sent Iran?

80 posted on 09/05/2017 4:53:06 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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