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What Criminologists Don’t Say, and Why
City Journal ^ | September 2, 2017 | John Paul Wright and Matt DeLisi

Posted on 09/02/2017 6:44:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Pretty much nailed it. Look at some basic facts.

If we consider population density; let us consider Japan. Few blacks, and low crime. But take any prosperous city and add significant blacks and you wind up with issues. Look at every primarily Black Country on the planet; and name just one that can even manage to feed itself. Now tell me that it’s due to racism.

If you give a pile of rubble to a group of whites or a group of Asians; in a week they will build a city.

If you give a city to a group of blacks; in a week they will give you a pile of rubble. I offer Chicage. Baltimore, New Orleans, Detroit, Los Angeles as examples. And the richest continent in the world with natural resources - Africa - as an example


21 posted on 09/02/2017 8:54:05 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Some of us appreciate the practitioner.


22 posted on 09/02/2017 8:57:12 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (Waiting for inspiration)
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To: cherry
When it comes to disciplinary biases, however, none is so strong or as corrupting as liberal views on race.

Disproportionate black involvement in violent crime represents the elephant in the room amid the current controversy over policing in the United States.

Homicide numbers from the Federal Bureau of Investigation Supplementary Homicide Reports, 1976–2005 indicate that young African-American males account for homicide victims at levels that are ten to 20 times greater than their proportion of the population and account for homicide offenders at levels that are 15 to 35 times greater than their proportion of the population.

You just needed to read a little further...

23 posted on 09/02/2017 8:59:39 PM PDT by GOPJ (Nancy Pelosi didn't 'disavow' Antifa FAST ENOUGH - ask Pelosi another 200 times MSNBC...)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
When it comes to disciplinary biases, however, none is so strong or as corrupting as liberal views on race.

Disproportionate black involvement in violent crime represents the elephant in the room amid the current controversy over policing in the United States.

Homicide numbers from the Federal Bureau of Investigation Supplementary Homicide Reports, 1976–2005 indicate that young African-American males account for homicide victims at levels that are ten to 20 times greater than their proportion of the population and account for homicide offenders at levels that are 15 to 35 times greater than their proportion of the population.

You just needed to read a little further...

24 posted on 09/02/2017 9:01:00 PM PDT by GOPJ (Nancy Pelosi didn't 'disavow' Antifa FAST ENOUGH - ask Pelosi another 200 times MSNBC...)
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To: JohnyBoy
Tons of Christians per square mile in the Philippines, sky high crime rates. Almost no Christians in Japan and crime is almost nonexistent.

Sure, but are the Christians in the Philippines doing the crimes? There are a lot of non-Christians there, including muslims. Perhaps a better way to state it would be that a low crime rate depends on the exclusivity of Christians per square mile. And Japan has demonstrated that there are other means of keeping people in line than just Christianity, but they have succeeded in doing that because their culture enforces something in common with one of the most powerful forces in Christianity: shame.
25 posted on 09/02/2017 9:21:24 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The article is right on. James Q. Wilson was a leading criminologist and his writings still hold up today. I was reading them 40 years ago when I was getting my Police Science degree. To say that he was “prescient” is an understatement.

Two other items. The FBI agent who sued the Bureau over racial discrimination (Rochon v. FBI ###) was a legitimate case, but the black FBI agent Rochon hired a top Communist Party supporter attorney from Philadelphia to represent him (why I don’t know, possibly the pinkos’ reputation as a good litigator).

One of the thinks that the lawyer did (Kairys) was to try and get a list of all FBI agents in the US, where they live, their race, etc). Fortunately retired FBI agents got the stupid judge to deny this request on national security grounds. There is no doubt that the list would have ended up in the hands of the KGB through the attorney (he was a member of several congressionally identified and cited Communist Party USA fronts including the National Lawyers Guild and the National Emergency Civil Liberties Committee (the latter more of a Soviet legal weapon than the older NLG). [[Kairys, if I remember correctly, taught “Law” at Temple University’s Law School, possibly with his pink partner named Rudovsky]].

Rochon had a legitimate grievance against the Bureau but he chose a red to represent him which could have totally compromised the FBI. What the hell was he thinking? He let his skin color rule his common sense and would have sold out the country for a few bucks.

Today he is a largely forgotten fool.

By the way, as I have mentioned previously, inside the old Washington Field Office (now known as Trump International Hotel in DC), were two photos of slain FBI agents, right as you came into the main room.

The SAC of that office was really shaken by their deaths at the hand of a common criminal, and he was particularly upset that one of the agents was one of the first black FBI agents they had. He liked both of them and mourned their loss.

The other comment I want to make is in the article, the authors suggest that the police go back to the old tactic of watching high crime areas and going after known criminals. Well, folks, this is called “profiling” by the Marxist and black extremist Left.

If some Amish youth are perpetrating criminal acts, you don’t look in the Chinese community for them. So, to the Left, in order to protect the criminals and attack the police, they came up with a perverted definition of “profiling” which liberal/leftist judges accepted without challenge from communist/Marxist/leftist liberal lawyers.

I once did a “ride along” with a DC Vice/Narcotics officer and he gave me a 3-5 inch printout of known criminals who were either wanted or on a watch list (i.e. parole, probation status). The police knew who these people were.

In fact, he called one man over, by name. The man came over to the unmarked car and said to the office, “How did you know my name?” to which the cop said, “Hey dumbo, I arrested you 6 months ago. Are you clean today”?

The shocked man said “Yes” and left, shaken by the fact the that the police knew who he was and where he was.

Now that is what I call first class “profiling”. The ex-perp probably needed a change of underwear after that little “tet a tet”.

Moral of the story - PROFILING WORKS.


26 posted on 09/02/2017 9:34:19 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Brilliant analysis. Acknowledged. Thanks.


27 posted on 09/02/2017 10:52:39 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: SoConPubbie

Accept... Nobody can “obey” it. If “obeying” would work, the Cross would be pointless.

Modern Christianity has decayed into a “you first” game between mortals. That has no power.


28 posted on 09/03/2017 12:04:57 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Which is why I say the church. Now the name of the game is “us first.” The church in turn evangelizes and teaches with power.

Expecting atomized Christians to be the basis of the philosophy you inveigh is like restricting your concept of the ocean to ocean spray.


29 posted on 09/03/2017 12:10:37 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Excellent article. Another academic gambles with his career. He’s not at an Ivy League institution so his chances of surviving an episode of truth-telling are probably enhanced.


30 posted on 09/03/2017 3:25:13 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: fr_freak

You can have a crime-ridden Christian society, if the Christians are unwilling to deal harshly with criminals.

What Giuliani discovered in NYC, was that most crime was due to a relatively small number of chronic criminals. Remove THEM from society, and things quiet down.


31 posted on 09/03/2017 3:52:41 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

-——But 50 years of research on the topic have failed to find the smoking gun linking justice-system disparities to racism. Claims to the contrary often manipulate data or ignore them altogether. In the case of the DOJ reports, and in the eyes of many criminologists, racism has to be the cause of these disparities because recognizing the truth about the huge racial imbalance in crime is political intolerance——

Whoa... You mean my white privilege isn’t the cause of black criminals committing the vast majority of crime as a precent of the population.

I’m shocked..../s


32 posted on 09/03/2017 4:02:25 AM PDT by Popman
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

The left doesn’t actually mean going after known criminals when they refer to “profiling”.

It is hard for me to imagine you don’t know that.


33 posted on 09/03/2017 7:29:57 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

I know that very well. Actually read William Kunstler saying that he only defended people/causes he believed in. Back then it was the Communist Party, SDS, Black Panther Party, Weathermen, black extremists, Moslem terrorists/extremists, Cubans, etc.

However, he did defend Rhode Island Mafia leader Raymond Patriarcha but lost (no way the govt was going to lose that case). Kunstler did got a reported defense fee of $500,000 and lived to enjoy it. I wrote about this in a Baltimore weekly after they had run a glowing profile about him.

Not one hostile letter to the editor on that one. Silence from the Left says a lot.

Remember, Marx and other Marxist/communist theoreticians believed that almost all crime was caused by “class” factors, not human weaknesses or evil. Therefore, by preventing “profiling”, they were knowingly keeping the marxist stormtroopers on the streets. They were referred to as the “lumpenproletariat”, and even leftist thinker W. E. B. DuBois warned American Negros in the 1930’s to stay away from the Communist Party and not become their “cannonfodder”.

However, when you scratch some CPUSA leaders, SDSers/WUO, BPP leaders/members, RAM, NRA, and now BLM/Antifa, etc. groups, you will find career criminals and petty criminals among their upper echelon ranks as well as down at the foot soldier levels. THIS IS BY DESIGN. Stopping “profiling” is meant to protect these Marxist “shocktroops” and to keep them out their waging “class warfare” be it on campus or in the streets of our country.

The Left has its own schools of criminology/criminal thought, which started mainly at Berkeley (Boult Hall law school), “Radical Criminologist” publication, the John Jay School of Criminal Justice, and now the far-left Brennan Center.

They are anti-police, anti-self defense and pro-criminal. I’ve been researching and writing against them since 1970 so I do know what the Left means in their anti-profiling policies.


34 posted on 09/03/2017 6:15:52 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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