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Antifa Berkeley: Why the 'Alt-Left' Is a Problem
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Posted on 08/30/2017 12:19:05 AM PDT by TigerClaws

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To: manc

Godwin wept.


21 posted on 08/30/2017 3:24:20 AM PDT by Salamander (I'm on the wrong side of Heaven and the righteous side of Hell...)
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To: easternsky

Someone published that our American left voiced opposition to Communism —yet helped advance Communism far more than it ever hurt them .I apologize to Dennis Prager for my poor rendering of his excellent editorial on those who do not fight the real evil—but fight statues. I admire people like Dennis Prager who can say what I know is true far better than I.


22 posted on 08/30/2017 3:55:43 AM PDT by StonyBurk
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To: Lady Heron
If you have gone on line these last two weeks you have gotten a history lesson all over the internet of Nazi’s, KKK and Antifa. Not good for dems.

Indeed.

The socialist Nazis and communist Antifa both got their start in 1930s Germany, and were basically groups of far-left radicals using the same tactics and vying for the same followers. I do not think for a moment that modern Nazis have much to do with the original Nazis; their motivation seems to be more of an in-your-face type of rebelliousness. And in any case, there appears to be few of them. The Antifa, on the other hand, are behaving in a manner very true to their origins. The bottom line is that cheering on Antifa because they claim to be against [a caricature of] Nazis is like cheering the Bloods because they're against the Crips.

The KKK was adopted early on by the Democrats as their militant arm. And the Democrats have never really repudiated that; in fact, they still seem to have the same anti-minority goals. They just use different tactics to oppress people these days.

23 posted on 08/30/2017 4:05:06 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: TigerClaws
Is “alt-left” a useful term?

It was a term of derision adopted by Hilary and the media to undermine Trump. Well, they invented it, we can use it, and its weaponized value is demonstrated by the degree of howling that was raised when we started calling these thugs alt-left. Secret societies who go around armed wearing concealing uniforms sound an awful lot like the fascists, Hitler jugend and browns shirts of yore.

24 posted on 08/30/2017 4:27:52 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: TigerClaws

“Once is chance, twice is coincidence, third time is enemy action.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3581516/posts
‘Antifa’ violence in Berkeley becomes problem for left-wing activist community
LA Times ^ | Aug, 29, 2017

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3581719/posts
Antifa Berkeley: Why the ‘Alt-Left’ Is a Problem
Time ^
Posted on 8/30/2017

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3581683/posts
Pelosi Statement Condemning Antifa Violence in Berkeley
Democratic Leader ^ | August 29, 2017 | Nancy Pelosi

Just as the petty tyrants from the Ctrl-Left abandoned their “Russia” “Russia” shrieks, they seem to be abandoning their open support for terrorism on our streets. Even leftists can learn! Who knew?

I wonder what their next obsession will be.


25 posted on 08/30/2017 4:28:46 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: TigerClaws

Polling re Dems and Antifa must be disastrous. In the last day or so the lefty press have switched in lockstep from “antifa good” to “antifa very, very bad”. Shades of Molotov-Ribbentrop.


26 posted on 08/30/2017 4:36:28 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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To: TigerClaws

Antifa is not in any way some sort of “Alt-Left” nor should any conservative use that term for it.

Antifa is just normal, everyday leftism. Make them wear it.


27 posted on 08/30/2017 4:40:21 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: TigerClaws

Alternate Left is in appropriate. The thugs and goons are main stream left. The disruptors are the left.

There is no Alt about them. They are the children of the mainstream of Barack Obama and bill Ayers and Hillary Clinton and Richard Trumka


28 posted on 08/30/2017 4:42:58 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: TigerClaws

Something FLIPPED the Left into now wanting to call off their Brownshirts, at least temporarily.

I wouldn’t be surprised if something behind the scenes was going on, like an investigation into just who is behind their violence - and something is going to break. It seems now that they feel a need to be on record, so they can respond such as “...who, little ole us, why we are (now) denouncing that violence. You guys must have us confused with someone else.”

Something is DEFINITELY going on - they seemed to have gotten a lot of mileage by blaming, exclusively, the 300 to 400 Nazis and KKK types in this country for all the violence...but now they’re starting to tell the truth? Something is definitely going on...and we’ll likely find out sooner than later.


29 posted on 08/30/2017 5:17:39 AM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: JohnyBoy

Yea, when I post on news forums, I ALWAYS use the term Alt-Left...and they always deny that the Alt-Left exists. They absolutely HATE the term...and it gone, which is why they’re not even using the term Alt-Right much in the past few days.


30 posted on 08/30/2017 5:23:35 AM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: Lady Heron

Bingo!

Every decision they make is determined by wether it increases or decreases their power.

This is hurting their cause- Bigly!


31 posted on 08/30/2017 5:53:05 AM PDT by crusher2013
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To: AndyJackson

“Well, they invented it”

Not really. It hearkens back to UNEWS groups in the days before the Internet.

If the newsgroup “politics.org.fbi” was more scholarly and restrained, “alt.politics.org.fbi” was more “wild west” freewheeling discussion of the fbi.

For a libtard, then, “we intelligent people” post to “how.wonderful.is.socialism,” while the people who post to “alt.how.wonderful.is.socialism” are extremist whackadoodles.


32 posted on 08/30/2017 6:53:34 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: piasa

So if a thirty revcom (Revolutionary Communist Party, USA) thugs show up all of us can do the drama queen bit cowering in front of them like they were Stalin’s thugs? Saying ‘they murdered millions of people’ help us - help us - - donate millions to us.

Liberal ‘elites’ do the same with 20 losers calling themselves ‘nazi’ - as if it was 1943. Then paint every conservative with the same brush. CNN sucks... they’re that stupid.

So sick of liberals and their BS. And the stupid people in the press who magnify the hysteria.


33 posted on 08/30/2017 7:57:33 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: AndyJackson; dsc

So if thirty revcom (Revolutionary Communist Party, USA) thugs show up all of us can do the liberal drama queen bit cowering in front of them like they were Stalin’s thugs? Saying ‘they murdered millions of people’ help us - help us - - donate millions to us.

Yes, probably 20+ million starved to death... in the old USSR region...but are these losers - without the benefit of Stalin’s Establishment worthy of great fear? Well, maybe if the Chinese are funding them...

Liberal ‘elites’ do the same with 20 losers calling themselves ‘nazi’ - as if it was 1943. Then they paint every conservative with the same brush. CNN sucks... same with Chris Matthews.

So sick of liberals and their BS.


34 posted on 08/30/2017 8:02:51 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: TigerClaws

The proper term is ‘ctrl-left’. Much more truthful and descriptive.


35 posted on 08/30/2017 8:08:48 AM PDT by zeugma (The Brownshirts have taken over American Universities.)
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To: Pollster1

The meme has gone out from the top that the Antifa movement has gotten out of control, is angering Americans who have been neutral up to this point, and is splintering the party. The people at the top are panicking.


36 posted on 08/30/2017 10:35:23 AM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius available at Amazon.)
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