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Renowned Artist Releases Powerful Painting of Trump and the People Who Elected Him: (T)
ijr.com ^ | 8/24/2017 | Mike Miller

Posted on 08/24/2017 8:10:29 AM PDT by rktman

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To: Utah Binger

Maybe he should have finger-painted it in feces. Would that have been “sophisticated” enough for you?

I suspect we unwashed Philistines appreciate the piece for its content, not necessarily its avant-garde technical mastery.


41 posted on 08/24/2017 10:48:55 AM PDT by IronJack (sh)
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To: Utah Binger

Okay. You know the composer’s recipe for fried chicken? First, steal a chicken. I’m sure the same thing goes on in visual arts as well.


42 posted on 08/24/2017 10:53:01 AM PDT by real saxophonist ( YouTube + Twitter + Facebook = YouTwitFace.com)
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To: IronJack

Sometimes, it’s not mere snobbery behind less than positive critiques by people knowledgable in art. The guy’s brush technique needs work, his color palette is muddled and he has little grasp of scale and perspective. This damages any message he wants to convey with the overall image. He can improve, if he’s willing to accept constructive criticism. If he’s unwilling, as you appear to be, then he’ll meander along and never really get anywhere because he’s falling down on technical aspects that can be learned, but he clearly hasn’t bothered to do so. Which, by the way, is too bad because what he’s trying to convey has power and a ready market. His vision is way ahead of his abilities at present.

If this makes me a snob in your mind, well, so be it but you’d be mistaken.


43 posted on 08/24/2017 10:56:01 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Utah Binger

“I didn’t find anything like that but it is very well known here in Utah art circles that the imagery and drawing lacks professional training. “

Considering what art circles consider “art” these days,I don’t care what they think.

Norman Rockwell was probably scorned by art circles too.

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44 posted on 08/24/2017 10:57:40 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Mears

Norman Rockwell was scorned in certain art circles because for one he was not purely an artist, he was a commercial illustrator. He did not do art for art’s sake and that is a major demerit in the eyes of some. But, the real source of the scorn was and is political. He portrayed the simple things of American life in a positive, and positively glowing light. And, they hated him for that.


45 posted on 08/24/2017 11:00:37 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: IronJack; Jim Robinson
LOL, didn't know we had unwashed Philistines on Free Republic. Come to the Maynard Dixon property in Southern Utah and we'll douse you in the irrigation ditch.

Dixon Property where we do the Freeper Picnic.

46 posted on 08/24/2017 11:03:41 AM PDT by Utah Binger (At The Maynard Dixon Home and Studio)
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To: Utah Binger

I suspect our Philistines are squeaky clean if we got ‘em.


47 posted on 08/24/2017 11:06:44 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

I was in elementary school during WWII-—— Rockwell’s “The Four Freedoms” hung in every classroom———they absolutely fascinated me.

(This was Boston,they would NEVER hang them today.)

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48 posted on 08/24/2017 11:12:33 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Mears

Elitists in art circles have always talked down the illustrators. Rockwell was no exception except to say that he was the premier artist/illustrator of his time. We cannot compare Rockwell to the untrained who use subjects for their statement and fail to make correct art. And yes the image in question is very poorly executed. That is the point of this discussion, not the subject he attempted to illustrate.

Think art, not subjects.


49 posted on 08/24/2017 11:17:49 AM PDT by Utah Binger (At The Maynard Dixon Home and Studio)
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To: Mears

The leftist art establishment viewed Rockwell paintings as very successful propaganda posters for the system that they were and still are trying to destroy. He was highly technically proficient, as any professional commercial illustrator has got to be in order to make a living and remain employed. His color palette was filled with light and positively glowed. His composition was excellent. His communication of emotion and attention to detail was above reproach. So, they had to look elsewhere to hate him, but at base it was political. A fair amount of their esteem for any given artist is due to his or her backstory, and from that they determine intent. Rockwell was being paid to churn out beautiful, inspiring depictions of everyday American life and did so flawlessly, much to their ongoing dismay.


50 posted on 08/24/2017 11:21:27 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Nicely stated!


51 posted on 08/24/2017 11:24:51 AM PDT by Utah Binger (At The Maynard Dixon Home and Studio)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I suspect most of us were more focused on the subject, and were willing to overlook any technical “shortcomings.” Or maybe that’s just me.


52 posted on 08/24/2017 11:28:19 AM PDT by IronJack (sh)
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To: rktman

I like the painting, too.

Might have to hunt up a replica somewhere.


53 posted on 08/24/2017 11:30:32 AM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: IronJack

It’s perfectly fine to perceive a painting in whatever manner you perceive it, but just understand that as “art” there is skill and proficiency just as in any other pursuit. He needs some work there, particularly with the ambitious subject matter. He has vision and he has unpolished, largely undeveloped talent. It’s up to him where he goes with that.


54 posted on 08/24/2017 11:34:35 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Drawsing

“Something is a little off with the perspective. If the guy kneeling in front were to stand up, he would be a giant”

Are referring to linear perspective?


55 posted on 08/24/2017 11:43:00 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (Hot sauce aside, every culture has its pancake, just as every culture has its noodle.)
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To: Clutch Martin

Hey. The artist is “making it his own.” LOL!


56 posted on 08/24/2017 11:58:23 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: rktman

No, it’s a rose.


57 posted on 08/24/2017 12:18:49 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: real saxophonist

Yes, artistic skills of Norman Rockwell.


58 posted on 08/24/2017 12:20:44 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Clutch Martin

Yes. The kneeling boy is very slightly closer to us than is the president. But, it just looks like to me he is too big relative to the people around him. Just my perception.


59 posted on 08/24/2017 1:10:36 PM PDT by Drawsing (Fools show their annoyance at once, the prudent man overlooks an insult. Proverbs 12:16)
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To: rktman

It’s the tree of Liberty. So I would guess growing that would be no problem. No?


60 posted on 08/24/2017 1:17:09 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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