It was called “Murderer’s Row.” Aircraft carriers lined up across Ulithi Lagoon. Ulithi was used as the major “secret” naval base during WWII. Official U.S. Navy Photograph.
Posted on 08/22/2017 11:24:02 AM PDT by nickcarraway
Stop running the Navy like a touchy-feely corporation and I bet anything that it turns back around. Exhaustion my ass.
Yes, because the Navy that won at Tripoli or Midway were not exhausted at all. Those were like picnics in the tropics.
sheesh
Bump!
“We need those 50 to 75 frigates—not to mention more fast attack submarines—to make up those gaps,” Hendrix said.
No truer words were spoken.
Actually, the gap is 100 frigates and 40 SSNs.
Exhausted from what?
Is this the forthcoming defense for sleeping or goofing off (or worse) while on watch?
See post #3.
“Exhaustion my ass.”
Deployed 50% most definitely leads to exhaustion.
Of course any submariners wife would know that.
“Exhausted from what?”
Have you ever been to sea on a warship?
How does a Navy destroyer get hit in the rear by a tanker going 9.2 knots?
Granted it was a typical morning rush hour into Singapore. But somehow the McCain got itself in the way of the Alnic MC, got hit, and 10 sailors are likely dead.
Check out the tracking video of the Alnic and others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlrA36GzHNs
It was called “Murderer’s Row.” Aircraft carriers lined up across Ulithi Lagoon. Ulithi was used as the major “secret” naval base during WWII. Official U.S. Navy Photograph.
“Yes, because the Navy that won at Tripoli or Midway were not exhausted at all. “
Warships in both of those eras never maintained a 50% deployment/at sea pace over the long term.
I don’t think it’s ever been done before.
Jerry Hendrix, director of the Defense Strategies and Assessments Program at the Center for a New American Security, and
Seth Cropsey, director of the Center for American Seapower at the Hudson Institute
Bryan Clark, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments.
"Those 50-75 frigates" are not ABM bearing Aegis equipped DLGs or Cruisers.
Yeah the Navy is in a bad way, but having a lot of folks around seeking a lobbying paid pay-day is not helping at all.
How long before Trump gets his 355 vessel Navy going? Nothing in this budget for it. Why is sequester still in place too?
How secret was it? Japan used it before the U.S., and the Japanese attacked it multiple times.
Yeah. Training on how to fight fires has to give. Training on maintaining fire control systems has to give. Training on bridge watches has to give. Training on Damage Control has to give. Training on First Aid has to give. Training on navigation has to give. Training on seamanship has to give. Training on corrosion control has to give. Training on everything has to give.
Yeah. Training on everything has to give.
BUT YOU CAN BET YOUR A$$ TRAINING ON SENSITIVITY, TRAINING ON HOMOSEXUALITY AND TRANSGENDER-ISM, TRAINING ON RACIAL RELATIONS, TRAINING ON SEXUAL HARASSMENT, AND EVERY OTHER KIND OF WORTHLESS, USELESS, PARASITIC LIBERAL TRAINING WILL DEFINITELY, MOST DEFINITELY, HAVE TO NOT GIVE.
This crap makes me so spitting mad I can barely see straight. We have dead sailors due to this putrid, pathetic, PC culture. That is why they are dead. It isn't the North Koreans hacking, it isn't the Chicoms poking, it isn't stupid damned idiotic Russian tampering with our nav systems, it is this PC culture, the poisoned naval leadership, and the LACK of training.
Damn it all, this makes me as angry as all get out.
Why not 200 frigates and 80 subs?
The Budget War is scheduled to begin in September.
That’s when the current CR expires AND borrowing authority expires.
McConnell is already saying there will be no issues and the US will not default.
He’s betting on ANOTHER CR and doubling down on the bet with the assumption that Trump will sign it.
Trump has some things he wants to get done: 355 ship Navy, Border Wall etc.
I don’t think he will sign a CR. It would be a complete collapse and surrender. Somehow I just don’t think that’s in him.
I believe he would rather go out in a blaze of glory.
It does not help how the Navy sets watches. The Merchant Marine has 3 watches: 12 to 4, 4-8, 8-12. Repeat. In the Navy if it is like the Coast Guard you stand rotation based on how many people are qualified for the watch you stand. I have stood two man watch which is 6 on and 6 off. 3 man watch which is like the Merchant Marine, 4 man and 5 man rotation which messes with your circadian rhythm. Once even 7 man which was great. But you have to add in all hands training, operations, and other stuff during the day. After a while people are nearly zombies, just trying to get through another day. Add to this that there is a constant turnover of personnel that need to be trained and you have a really physically and mentally exhausted crew. What could possible go wrong?
Dittos.
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