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To: butterdezillion
"You show one picture of an SDV that’s a certain size and imply that it’s proof that there are no others that are a different size."

No, Butter, I never showed a picture of anything.

You and your cohort showed a picture of an Advanced Seal Delivery System vehicle and you guys wrote on the image "Swimmer Delivery Vehicle approximately 50' x 8' x 6' ." I only pointed out that the Advanced Seal Delivery System vehicle was according to the US Navy 65' x 6.75' x 8.25'. And I pointed out that the vehicle you pictured and measure with your scientific calculations was a one-of-a-kind prototype that was destroyed by fire in 2008 and never replaced. It's not my fault that you guys screwed up. Don't blame the messenger.

"The official (embossed) seal of the HDOH is only to be used by the director. It is bigger than the seal that the registrar uses on his certifications. That official seal is only to be used next to the DIRECTOR’s signature. "

There is only one official seal for the Department of Health. As the statute says it can be enlarged or reduced in size for certificates. The seal that Dr. Onaka uses on birth certificates is the official seal of the Department of Health. Nowhere does it say the Registrar is limited to that seal and only that seal.

"You also seem to think that if Rosa and Puentes had a cushion nearby once then they had it nearby always. "

Not once but throughout the 16 minute video. Rosa has one at 7:30, 10:45 and 13:20. And Puentes has one at 9:50 and 14:20.

Your problem is you look at one frame of a picture and say "that hand in the picture can't be Rosa, Puentes or Jake, therefore it must be a manikin." But if you had looked at the frames before it you would have seen it was Yamamoto's hand. You do that every time. You look for details and miss the rest of the picture.

109 posted on 08/09/2017 3:46:30 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

PERHAPS THERE'S A SIMPLE REASON WHY THE SAME NUMBER APPEARS ON BOTH AIRCRAFT?

N687MA (msn 208B1002), one of the two Makani Kai Air's Cessna C208B Grand Caravans ditched in the waters a half-mile from LUP around 15:45HST. According to news reports, one of the eight passengers died. Some passengers were rescued by the Maui Fire Department, and the US Coast Guard also rescued some of the passengers. One of those on board, swam back to shore. The Grand Caravan went down shortly after take-off from LUP. The passenger that perished in the crash was Hawai‘i Department of Health Director Loretta Fuddy.

MAKANI-KAI CARAVAN DITCHES.SOURCE

AIRPIX SOURCE

10 Years at Field Aviation - The Album

N687MA CASA 212 of Murray Aviation

May 2000 - Field Aviation Ramp Toronto International Airport

Might be nothing, but it's always made me wonder, are light aircraft id numbers recycled/duplicated?

112 posted on 08/09/2017 5:15:03 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: 4Zoltan; Fantasywriter

One witness has admitted that the ground there was “squishy”. That blows your whole theory to bits. You won’t even acknowledge that.

The same witness also admitted that one of the people seen near the plane very early in the video is none of the people on the plane’s manifest. Again, that blows all your protests to bits but you as yet won’t even acknowledge that information. If anybody else is watching at this point, can you see why I say it’s pointless even talking to these trolls?

The official seal is defined as 2 1/4” and embossed. It CANNOT be changed in size. Reproductions of its image can be made to put on stationery, forms, etc, but the OFFICIAL SEAL is defined in the statute as 2 1/4” in diameter and embossed near the director’s signature.

What Onaka uses does not have a star between the upper and lower banks of words, as the statute defines the OFFICIAL DOH SEAL as having. It has a dot. It is also not 2 1/4” as the statute defines the OFFICIAL DOH SEAL as being.

You are talking out of your behind - once again citing the statutes as if they support what you’re saying when in fact they disprove what you’re saying. Same M.O. EVERY TIME. Do you never get sick of this stupid game?

Never showed a picture of anything? There you go revising history again. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3566012/posts?page=90#90 You posted images of the LaJolla without an SDV and acted as if that was some great proof. Your “reasoning” is that if it didn’t have an SDV in those public images then it must never have an SDV for covert operations and we must have been liars for saying that the LaJolla is equipped with a bay for a Seal Delivery Vehicle (as the Navy says directly on one of their images).

Just give it up. Everybody can see what you are doing. You are way out of your league.

The LaJolla is equipped with a bay for a Seal Delivery Vehicle and was ordered into the area north of Molokai right before this planned water ditching. We found that out after the Navy had altered our requests, changed their wording and wouldn’t clarify whether their wording matched the meaning we had used in our request, outright lied, and ultimately given us a record with the “ZULU” notation removed (without showing it as redacted) in order to try to make it show the exact opposite of what it actually showed.

One of the witnesses has acknowledged at least one person in Puentes’ video being near the plane very early after the ditching who was not on the manifest. That doesn’t happen unless the event was planned in advance.

A witness from the salvage company has said the engine was cut from the rest of the plane with a machine, and the photos the NTSB originally showed to the above witness clearly showed dozens of mismatched cuts - cuts which were blurred in the NTSB’s final report, after we notified them of this evidence. Instead of investigating - including getting subpoenas and charging the salvor, pilot, etc with obstruction of justice and other crimes - they stuck with their story and simply tried to fudge the images so nobody would notice. A lotta laws broken - grounds for a lot of criminal prosecutions - and yet nobody was at all concerned about that, and nothing (as of yet) has happened to them. Sounds an awful lot like “cover story indemnity” to me... It happened in the NTSB, the FAA, the Navy, the Coast Guard, Maui County Police Dept... Who could offer cover story indemnity for all those entities? Only Barack Hussein Obama, in a presidential directive kept confidential for “national security” purposes. (spit)

In the video it is easy to see that the ditching was not 1/2 mile off shore. The Radar-Associated Sector Three audio shows that the Molokai tower had (radar?) visuals on where the landing was - 300 yards from the end of Runway 5. Why did they say that this happened 1/2 mile out? Because that put it within the exclusive jurisdiction of the FBI, who was headed at that time by....... drum roll..... James Comey. The same guy who took Dennis Montgomery’s evidence of Brennan and Clapper’s criminal spying and database altering, and BURIED IT. The guy is up to his skull in crimes to cover the illegal, criminal a$$ of Obama and his owners. This story is tied to all the criminal deep-state players.... only this time, it all points directly to Barack Hussein Obama, the only person who could offer cover-story indemnity to people within all those separate federal, military, state, and local agencies.

Fantasywriter, I think if you see what was truly going on here, who it involves, and what it is evidence of, you will understand why this was such a big deal to the people who have power to order criminal activities like killing or maiming people (with cover story indemnity) and deleting emails at the server level. These people claim their powers are for “national security” but this story blows that all out of the water (no pun intended). They use those powers to achieve their own criminal purposes and to make sure that those who shine a light on their criminal purposes and activities end up dead or as good as dead.

People, this is not some - tee hee - crazy conspiracy. This is reality biting us in the butt. Wake up before it’s too late, if it’s not already too late. The deep state is a RICO organization, using all the powers of the federal government to commit crimes against the US Constitution and her people.


116 posted on 08/09/2017 10:06:27 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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