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To: 4Zoltan; Fantasywriter

One witness has admitted that the ground there was “squishy”. That blows your whole theory to bits. You won’t even acknowledge that.

The same witness also admitted that one of the people seen near the plane very early in the video is none of the people on the plane’s manifest. Again, that blows all your protests to bits but you as yet won’t even acknowledge that information. If anybody else is watching at this point, can you see why I say it’s pointless even talking to these trolls?

The official seal is defined as 2 1/4” and embossed. It CANNOT be changed in size. Reproductions of its image can be made to put on stationery, forms, etc, but the OFFICIAL SEAL is defined in the statute as 2 1/4” in diameter and embossed near the director’s signature.

What Onaka uses does not have a star between the upper and lower banks of words, as the statute defines the OFFICIAL DOH SEAL as having. It has a dot. It is also not 2 1/4” as the statute defines the OFFICIAL DOH SEAL as being.

You are talking out of your behind - once again citing the statutes as if they support what you’re saying when in fact they disprove what you’re saying. Same M.O. EVERY TIME. Do you never get sick of this stupid game?

Never showed a picture of anything? There you go revising history again. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3566012/posts?page=90#90 You posted images of the LaJolla without an SDV and acted as if that was some great proof. Your “reasoning” is that if it didn’t have an SDV in those public images then it must never have an SDV for covert operations and we must have been liars for saying that the LaJolla is equipped with a bay for a Seal Delivery Vehicle (as the Navy says directly on one of their images).

Just give it up. Everybody can see what you are doing. You are way out of your league.

The LaJolla is equipped with a bay for a Seal Delivery Vehicle and was ordered into the area north of Molokai right before this planned water ditching. We found that out after the Navy had altered our requests, changed their wording and wouldn’t clarify whether their wording matched the meaning we had used in our request, outright lied, and ultimately given us a record with the “ZULU” notation removed (without showing it as redacted) in order to try to make it show the exact opposite of what it actually showed.

One of the witnesses has acknowledged at least one person in Puentes’ video being near the plane very early after the ditching who was not on the manifest. That doesn’t happen unless the event was planned in advance.

A witness from the salvage company has said the engine was cut from the rest of the plane with a machine, and the photos the NTSB originally showed to the above witness clearly showed dozens of mismatched cuts - cuts which were blurred in the NTSB’s final report, after we notified them of this evidence. Instead of investigating - including getting subpoenas and charging the salvor, pilot, etc with obstruction of justice and other crimes - they stuck with their story and simply tried to fudge the images so nobody would notice. A lotta laws broken - grounds for a lot of criminal prosecutions - and yet nobody was at all concerned about that, and nothing (as of yet) has happened to them. Sounds an awful lot like “cover story indemnity” to me... It happened in the NTSB, the FAA, the Navy, the Coast Guard, Maui County Police Dept... Who could offer cover story indemnity for all those entities? Only Barack Hussein Obama, in a presidential directive kept confidential for “national security” purposes. (spit)

In the video it is easy to see that the ditching was not 1/2 mile off shore. The Radar-Associated Sector Three audio shows that the Molokai tower had (radar?) visuals on where the landing was - 300 yards from the end of Runway 5. Why did they say that this happened 1/2 mile out? Because that put it within the exclusive jurisdiction of the FBI, who was headed at that time by....... drum roll..... James Comey. The same guy who took Dennis Montgomery’s evidence of Brennan and Clapper’s criminal spying and database altering, and BURIED IT. The guy is up to his skull in crimes to cover the illegal, criminal a$$ of Obama and his owners. This story is tied to all the criminal deep-state players.... only this time, it all points directly to Barack Hussein Obama, the only person who could offer cover-story indemnity to people within all those separate federal, military, state, and local agencies.

Fantasywriter, I think if you see what was truly going on here, who it involves, and what it is evidence of, you will understand why this was such a big deal to the people who have power to order criminal activities like killing or maiming people (with cover story indemnity) and deleting emails at the server level. These people claim their powers are for “national security” but this story blows that all out of the water (no pun intended). They use those powers to achieve their own criminal purposes and to make sure that those who shine a light on their criminal purposes and activities end up dead or as good as dead.

People, this is not some - tee hee - crazy conspiracy. This is reality biting us in the butt. Wake up before it’s too late, if it’s not already too late. The deep state is a RICO organization, using all the powers of the federal government to commit crimes against the US Constitution and her people.


116 posted on 08/09/2017 10:06:27 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Where did I get those images Butter? From you and your cohort.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3428362/replies?c=257

See the top one where you miscalculated the length of the Advanced Seal Delivery System vehicle. You guys said it was 50’ long. It’s not. It was 65’ long. Just an example of your fine scientific calculations. And it was the only one and it was destroyed by fire in 2008.

So why did you guys present it and measure it in the first place? Unless it was to deceive people into buy your crap book?

A real patriot would give the book away for free.

Cite the Hawaiian statute that describes the magic unicorn Onaka seal.

Nowhere in Hawaii law is the Dr. Onaka seal described. So according to your theory, Dr. Onaka can put on his seal whatever he wants. He can change it from day to day. Put a different emoji face on it depending on his mood.

That’s insane. The seal that Dr. Onaka places on Hawaiian birth certificates is the official seal of the Department of Health. It has to be.

All of those same witness say the engine died. That blows your theory to bits.


117 posted on 08/10/2017 6:53:14 AM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: butterdezillion

Butter, I looked and looked for that pic of Fuddy. I couldn’t find it via search engine, and reviewing old FR threads was equally fruitless. I wonder if it was hosted by one of those sites that has changed their guidelines? Perhaps the pic is no longer available to the general public.

I can only describe it as I recall it, and it’s been a while. My recollection is that Fuddy was not the focus of the pic. Rather, she was well in the background, having drifted apart. The distant image was mostly of a very pale face. Then someone isolated that part of the pic and enlarged it. It was then that I realized it was Fuddy, and that she was deceased. There is no doubt in my mind on that point.

Otoh, I have not the slightest clue as to what size life jacket she was wearing. That detail just didn’t register with me. I had assumed we’d resolve it by examining the pic afresh, but even that isn’t an option. I’m very disappointed.

Overall it seems obvious that something nefarious was going on. Am I right in recalling that three different causes of death were attributed to Fuddy? I can’t remember another case in which the cause of death, A, kept changing, and B, took so long to establish. [Expect our resident moonbats to dig up a case that took a decade or two to resolve the cause of death. They live for such misdirection.]

I know there are other anomalies as well. Under Obama, anything was possible. Watching the intelligence community work relentlessly to destroy Trump is evidence of how fully weaponized those agencies are. If Fuddy was a threat to Obama, the decision to neutralize her would have taken under a minute. That I can believe—see the never ending parade of dead bodies connected to Hillary. Five minute’s research would disabuse any semi-intelligent person of the idea that they were all sheer coincidences.

I absolutely don’t believe she’s still alive, though. That’s not the MO of the Deep State. As I’ve quoted before, three can keep a secret if two of them are dead. Words the Deep State lives by.


120 posted on 08/10/2017 8:10:09 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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