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To: humblegunner; 4Zoltan; Fantasywriter

“Fabricated” means altering evidence. I have NEVER, EVER altered evidence. Unlike the NTSB.

I have made mistakes in analysis, such as not realizing that Word uses rectangular grid lines instead of square gridlines, and when I was shown that I explained what I realized I had done wrong, retracted what I said and apologized. Unlike the NTSB or a whole multitude of posters here.

There were divers in the water. Absolutely no doubt of that. The fact that the plane’s engine was swapped out is without question, given the dozens of mismatched cuts on the engine that was pulled out of the water, the examined engine showing damage from an intense fire that was impossible in this situation, and the plane having recessed screws but the gear that was brought up having protruding screws. Jerome Corsi says that somebody from the salvage company said the engine was cut apart with a machine.

So it is YOU who are screwing up here.

But anybody watching, notice the same tactic used by HG here as was used by 4zoltan. Both post “evidence” that supposedly proves what a wrong idiot I am, when in reality the things that they mention prove my point.

They count on me not being able to correct the record every time they do it, which might also account for why I was not pinged during the discussion about my supposed “nuttiness”. Gang up in teams and chat together about how crazy somebody is, mentioning stuff you claim is “evidence” of the craziness, and count on most people not knowing that the “evidence” cited means the exact opposite of what the disinformation ministers claim.

People, see how Alinsky is alive and well, and how it covers itself in supposed “conservative” sheep’s clothing in places like FR. This stuff needs to be exposed. It is killing this country. People, ask yourself how we got here and then behold what is in front of your eyes.

Fantasywriter, the whole issue is character defamation so that everybody will be afraid to address real evidence because it might end up supporting some “nutty conspiracy theory”. This is also why HG is on a rampage against any news sources/analysis besides the government-approved propaganda that calls itself the “mainstream media”.

What Sharyl Attkisson’s first-hand source said about presidential directives ordering crimes and “cover story indemnity” for the perps means that the whole system is set to defame truth-seekers. That is the purpose. The US military has disinformation black ops; they acknowledge that. Do you think for a moment that “disinformation ops” cause no damage to the reputations and/or livelihoods of those who seek the truth? The federal government is a RICO organization tasked with defamation and libel of truth-seekers, if it’s not possible for them to obfuscate and sandbag them to death first.

Until people like the FR folks realize how this game works, America will keep losing. Real evidence will go nowhere because of the psy-ops doo-doo going on right here and elsewhere. Yes, Congress is lily-livered, but their excuse for it is right here on FR. So-called “conservatives” no longer have an evidence-based approach to life. Instead, it’s all about which evidence will be acceptable to their social image. In that setting, truth dies. And where truth dies, everything that is good and right dies too.

Please, people, just think about it. This game is far messier than most of the ridiculing “cool kids” will ever acknowledge - you know, the ones who sit on the sideline and ridicule or nitpick over the people down in the mud wrestling it out for this nation’s survival.


102 posted on 08/09/2017 11:34:47 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
This is also why HG is on a rampage against any news sources/analysis besides the government-approved propaganda that calls itself the “mainstream media”.

Meh.

It pays the bills.

103 posted on 08/09/2017 11:59:11 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: butterdezillion; humblegunner; 4Zoltan

Thanks for including me in your ping/post. First let me say that while hg can be tough with his words, at least he’s a conservative. That puts him leagues ahead of 4z, who is an unreconstituted Obot—and not even one of the more rational ones, in point of fact.

Butter, I doubt anyone studied the frogmen pics any more closely than I did. Some of the stills did suggest frogmen, but only until they were explained. Each and every pic was explained to the point that I simply couldn’t believe in the frogmen. I know you do but in good faith I can’t.

I have no problem believing the engine was swapped. It’s been a while, but at some point I read evidence that persuaded me of that likelihood. Nothing has changed.

When it comes to Fuddy, all I can tell you is what I saw. I saw a pic of her floating dead in the water, still wearing her life jacket. It was a moment of horror for me. All I could think, as I stared, was, ‘Death’s Head.’ It gave me the willies. (Apologies to anyone related to Fuddy who might read this. It’s not perhaps sensitively worded, but it’s the truth.)

I reiterate what I said before. I know you are an honest Christian. If you say that you and your family were poisoned, I believe it. You have evidently uncovered some fact that wasn’t meant to be uncovered. I hope and pray that you and yours stay safe. As the Seth Rich case shows only too clearly, there is a great risk in exposing the deep state.


104 posted on 08/09/2017 11:59:41 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: butterdezillion
But anybody watching, notice the same tactic used by HG here as was used by 4zoltan. Both post “evidence” that supposedly proves what a wrong idiot I am

No, sweetiebuns. I presented no evidence.
I simply pointed out that your "evidence" is
fabricated to lead to a conclusion that you reached
before you started the hunt for "evidence".

You start out trying to prove something and only accept
"evidence" from nutcase blogs that supports your "conclusion".

You can't get great big things totally wrong and still be taken seriously.

You'll never be Orly Taitz and you ought to be thankful.

105 posted on 08/09/2017 12:31:51 PM PDT by humblegunner
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