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Report: 'Fiscal drain' of illegal immigrants is 6 times cost of deportation
Washington Examiner ^ | Aug 3, 2017 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 08/03/2017 5:55:11 AM PDT by huldah1776

The "fiscal drain" of illegal immigrants on American taxpayers is about 6 times the price of deporting them, according to a new study that bolsters the Trump administration's bid to remove criminal illegals and cut overall immigration costs.

The Center for Immigration Studies on Thursday said in a new report that deportation costs an average of $10,854. According to Immigration and Customs Enforcement, that includes apprehension, detention, and processing.

Letting illegal immigrants stay in the U.S., results in a bill to taxpayers of $65,292 "for each illegal immigrant, excluding their descendants," according to Steven A. Camarota, director of research at the Center for Immigration Studies. That includes government benefits.

Camarota, citing two key fiscal impact studies, said that reason the cost of illegal immigration is high is because many are poorly educated and require more in government benefits than others.

"In short, illegal immigrants are a large net fiscal drain because of their education levels and this fact drives the results. Deportation, on the other hand, is not that costly relative to the fiscal costs illegal immigrants create," he wrote.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: aliens; deportation; drain; illegalaliens; sanctuary; swamp
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deportation = 2016 inflation = $124.1 Billion

sanctuary [excluding kids] = "lifetime drain" = $746.3 Billion

oops.

1 posted on 08/03/2017 5:55:11 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

It would be 20 times if deportation actually got rid of them, because for many, multiple deportations is just an inconvenience. Seal the friggin’ borders.


2 posted on 08/03/2017 6:15:50 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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Some info from a different source. A lot of the illegals are coming in
legally but are not leaving at the end of their legal time.

snip

Mexicans may no longer be the majority of U.S. unauthorized immigrants. They made up half
of all unauthorized immigrants in 2016, according to the Center’s preliminary estimate,
marking the first time in at least a decade that they did not account for a clear majority
of this population. Their numbers (and share of the total) have been declining in recent years: There were 5.6 million Mexican unauthorized immigrants
living in the U.S. in 2015 and 2016, down from 6.4 million in 2009.

Meanwhile, the number of unauthorized immigrants from nations other than Mexico has
grown since 2009, from 5 million that year to 5.4 million in 2015. Non-Mexicans numbered
5.7 million in the preliminary 2016 estimate, a total that was not statistically different
from 2015.

From 2009 to 2015, the number of unauthorized immigrants from Asia and Central America
rose. Increases in the number from other countries have mostly offset the decline in the
number from Mexico (and a relatively small decrease in the number from South America).

end snip

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/27/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/

5 facts about illegal immigration in the U.S.


3 posted on 08/03/2017 6:19:36 AM PDT by deport
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To: huldah1776

How much to keep them out to begin with?


4 posted on 08/03/2017 6:25:33 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: huldah1776

5 posted on 08/03/2017 6:28:53 AM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: NorthMountain

Tell that to the left. 60 FBI agents to follow ONE moozlem terrorist(potential). They want to let them in.


6 posted on 08/03/2017 6:37:46 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Actually, they[FBI] are following the muslim to protect him.


7 posted on 08/03/2017 6:40:53 AM PDT by sport
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To: huldah1776

What’s AP say about these facts?


8 posted on 08/03/2017 7:12:37 AM PDT by Chgogal (Sessions recused himself for shaking an Ambassador's hand. Shameful!)
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To: huldah1776
The "fiscal drain" of illegal immigrants on American taxpayers is about 6 times the price of deporting them, according to a new study that bolsters the Trump administration's bid to remove criminal illegals and cut overall immigration costs.

Copy this to that idiot Lindsey Graham... include the report on how illegals 'stop picking' and working in restaurant kitchens the day they become 'legal'... they move on to compete for the better jobs.

Let's recruit foreign politicians - some with backbones - to replace our lame politicians... How does that feel Paul Ryan? Lots of American Politicians won't work for ten buchs an hour with no benefits... pull in 'immigrants' for YOUR JOBS. Let's share the joy on the back of your profession...

Then open the floodgates for immigrants willing to write copy for newspaper for TEN BUCKS AN HOURS... I mean American reporters won't work for ten bucks an hour ... so bring in 'the poor' from India... they'll be grateful and work for almost nothing. Does that work for you Jeremy Peters?

Maybe reporters would like to get behind that pity party story... Hey, Willie Geist - will YOU push for this to replace YOUR friends with people willing to 'be journalists' for ten buck an hour? Come on elites... show us the way to being soooooooo accepting when it's YOUR jobs on the line.

9 posted on 08/03/2017 7:24:23 AM PDT by GOPJ (To totalitarians an open inquisitive mind is more dangerous than a Marine with a rifle-James Mattis)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Tell that to the left. 60 FBI agents to follow monitor and protect ONE moozlem terrorist(potential). So they want to let them in.

60 FBI agents would need 6 managers and those 6 managers would need at least one supervisor.

Then each agent would need at least a dozen support staff/assts. Those 720 support staff/assts, would need 72 supervisors. The 72 supervisors would need 12 managers. The twelve managers would need 4 people to monitor and help them and and at least a 100 support staff people to help them.

This math never stops increasing.

Mean while the monitoring allows the Boston Marathon bombing to happen, the San Bernandino Christmas party slaughter to happen and the Orlando killing of gays to happen. Monitoring didn't stop 9/11.

When the above happens, again, they need more agents and their support staff and their supervisors.

This cost is huge and grows each day. In spite of this huge cost, we the ordinary Americans are in more danger than less danger.

10 posted on 08/03/2017 7:25:49 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Voting for Trump to be our President, made 62+ million of us into Dumb Deplorable Colluders, MAGA!)
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To: huldah1776

the cost per illegal is a hell of a lot higher than that considering the fact that so many commit numerous crimes i n this country costing the taxpayers billions- Illegals cost this country between $400 BILLION DOLLARS and $600 BILLION DOLLARS per year- and kill and rape and assault many many americans each year- wracking huge legal and medical bills- note the following posts: (and keep in mind, these are old statistics from a number of years ago- the numbers are actually much higher today!):


11 posted on 08/03/2017 7:29:59 AM PDT by Bob434
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Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants

http://www.usillegalaliens.com/impacts_of_illegal_immigration_crime_summary.html

In recent Testimony of District Attorney John M. Morganelli before the House Subcommittee on immigration, Border, Security and Claims he stated:

“Unfortunately, the majority of illegal aliens who are here are engaged in criminal activity. Identity theft, use of fraudulent social security numbers and green cards, tax evasion, driving without licenses represent some of the crimes that are engaged in by the majority of illegal aliens on a daily basis merely to maintain and hide their illegal status.
In addition, violent crime and drug distribution and possession is also prevalent among illegal aliens. Over 25% of today’s federal prison population are illegal aliens. In some areas of the country, 12% of felonies, 25% of burglaries and 34% of thefts are committed by illegal aliens.”

•In Los Angeles, 95% of some 1,500 outstanding warrants for homicides are for illegal aliens. About 67% of the 17,000 outstanding fugitive felony warrants are for illegal aliens.

•There are currently over 400,000 unaccounted for illegal alien criminals with outstanding deportation orders. At least one fourth of these are hard core criminals.

•80,000 to 100,000 illegal aliens who have been convicted of serious crimes are walking the streets. Based on studies they will commit an average of 13 serious crimes per perpetrator.

•Illegal aliens are involved in criminal activities at a rate that is 2-5 times their representative proportion of the population.

•In 1980, our Federal and state facilities held fewer than 9,000 criminal aliens but at the end of 2003, approximately 267,000 illegal aliens were incarcerated in U.S. correctional facilities at a cost of about $6.8 billion per year.

•At least 4.5 million pounds of cocaine with a street value of at least $72 billion is smuggled across the southern border every year. ..

•56% of illegal aliens charged with a reentry offense had previously been convicted on at least 5 prior occasions.

•Illegal aliens charged with unlawful reentry had the most extensive criminal histories. 90% had been previously arrested. Of those with a prior arrest, 50% had been arrested for violent or drug-related felonies.

•Illegal aliens commit between 700,000 to 1,289,000 or more crimes per year.

•Illegal aliens commit at least 2,158 murders each year – a number that represents three times greater participation than their proportion of the population.

•Illegal alien sexual predators commit an estimated 130,909 sexual crimes each year.

•There may be as many as 240,000 illegal alien sex offenders circulating throughout America. Based on studies, they will commit an average of 8 sex crimes per perpetrator before being caught.

•Nearly 63% of illegal alien sex offenders had been deported on another offense prior to committing the sex crime.

•Only 2% of the illegal alien sex offenders in one study had no history of criminal behavior, beyond crossing the border illegally.

•In Operation Predator, ICE arrested and deported 6,085 illegal alien pedophiles. Some studies suggest each pedophile molests average of 148 children. If so, that could be as many as 900,580 victims.

•Nobody knows how big the Sex Slave problem is but it is enormous.

•The very brutal MS-13 gang has over 15,000 members and associates in at least 115 different cliques in 33 states.

•The overall financial impact of illegal alien crimes is estimated at between $14.4 and $81 billion or more per year. Factor in the crime as a result of the cocaine and other drugs being smuggled in and the number may reach $150 billion per year.

Where does Rubio come off berating Trump for citing FACTS?

[[Congressman Steve King (R-IA) estimates that illegal alien drunk drivers kill 13 Americans every day — that’s a death toll of 4,745 per year.[4]

The 23 percent criminal traffic offenders figure is only part of the overall picture. According to the Center for Immigration Studies, another 23 percent, more than 43,000 illegal aliens, were convicted of drug offenses. The violent crime category of assault, robbery, sexual assault, and family offenses comes to 12 percent. The non-violent crime grouping of larceny, fraud, and burglary totaled seven percent, and on the list goes — equaling 100 percent of illegal aliens who have been through the criminal justice system and inflicted thousands to millions in cost per alien on the system, for issues having nothing to do with their illegal entry into the country]]

http://www.constitutionparty.com/illegal-alien-crime-and-violence-by-the-numbers-were-all-victims/


12 posted on 08/03/2017 7:30:18 AM PDT by Bob434
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The Costs Of Illegal Immigration

It is estimated that illegal immigrants cost this country somewhere between $400 Billion dollars and $600 Billion Dollars Every Single Year

DARK SIDE of ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION YEARLY COSTS
45,008 illegal aliens from countries on the U.S. list of state-sponsors of terror or from countries that protected terrorist organizations and their members were released into the general public between 2001 and 2005 despite the fact that DHS couldn’t confirm their identity. Ultimate costs are unknown. Remember 9/11? ?

The Border Patrol arrested 39,215 “other-than-Mexicans,” along the Southwest border. In 2004, the number jumped to 65,814. DHS admits they only catch an estimated 1/3 of the border crossers. Ultimate collateral damage costs of the ones not caught are unknown. ?

Some sources say that bin Laden purchased several suitcase nukes from the Chechen rebels in 1996. Allegedly several of these weapons have been forward deployed to the US in preparation for al Qaeda’s next attack on American soil. Ultimate costs are unknown. ?

According to two trainers at an anti-terrorism conference, preparations are well underway in Islamic terrorist camps for attacks on American schools that will bring “rivers of blood and staggering body counts.” Ultimate costs are unknown. ?

Illegal aliens are enormously involved identity fraud. Costs are unknown. ?

Illegal aliens are involved in a plethora of other criminal activities including such crimes involving methamphetamine, cocaine, home invasion, auto insurance fraud, life insurance fraud, food stamp fraud, mortgage fraud, auto theft, drug trafficking, prostitution, and counterfeiting documents. Costs are unknown. ?

At the end of 2003, approximately 267,000 illegal aliens were incarcerated in U.S. correctional facilities. $6.8B
Mac Johnson estimates that illegal aliens murder between 1,806 and 2,510 people in the U.S. annually, an average of 2,158 murders. (Representative King states illegal aliens are responsible for 4,380 murders) $8.4 B

According to FBI Estimates on Number of Arrests in 2005 in the United States and applying a straight 5% of population representation, illegal aliens would have committed 704,709 crimes in 2005. Based on an average of $25,000 per crime, the costs would be $17.6 billion. Some estimates have their involvement much higher. $17.6B

Based on a GAO report of 55,322 illegal aliens incarcerated in federal, state, and local facilities during 2003 and extrapolating the average number of offenses out across all 267,000 incarcerated illegal alien criminals results in some 1,288,619 crimes! Based on an average of $25,000 per crime, the costs would be $32.2 billion. Another estimated 240,000 criminal illegal aliens are not incarcerated. $32.2B

Professor David Anderson reports that the net annual burdened costs of crime, in 2006 dollars that would be $1.62 TRILLION. A 5% illegal alien participation would be $81 BILLION. Some studies indicate the participation of illegal aliens is much higher than representation. $81B
80,000 to 100,000 illegal aliens who have been convicted of serious crimes still walk the streets. As previously noted, based on studies, those illegal alien criminal will commit 13 offenses each. Total costs are unknown. ?

An estimated 2,258,550 pounds of cocaine made it through the southern border with an estimated street value conservatively estimated $72.2 BILLION. Resulting costs of the associated crime is unknown. Assume 50% is paid for through crime. $36.1B

There are currently over 400,000 unaccounted for illegal alien criminals with outstanding deportation orders. Those are just the ones apprehended. At least one fourth of these are hard core criminals. Resulting costs are unknown. ?
Researcher Deborah Schurman-Kauflin Ph.D. of the Violent Crimes Institute, reports that the illegal alien population includes 240,000 sex offenders – a “conservative estimate.” Based on studies, they will commit 130,909 sex crimes annually. Using $50,000 as the average total economic impact, resulting costs are: $6.5B

63% of the sexual crimes, 82,473 victims, were committed by previously deported perverts who returned to commit the crime. Using $50,000 as the average total economic impact, this would be $4.1 BILLION - more than the cost of a proper border fence along the southern border. . $4.1B

Operation Predator resulted in 6,085 child predator arrests. Some pedophile statistics report that each pedophile molests average of 148 children. If so, that could be as many as 900,580 victims. Resulting costs are unknown. ?

Gangs Or Us estimates that MS-13 has over 15,000 members and associates in at least 115 different cliques in 33 states, and these numbers are continually increasing. .Resulting costs are unknown. ?

In one report, mostly illegal alien Hispanics were involved in 25% of the fatal traffic accidents, an astounding 5 times as much participation as representation. In those accidents, 75% of the drivers had no auto insurance, nearly all of the vehicles driven by migrants were registered to other drivers, and 93% of the vehicles had false out-of-state tags. Resulting costs are unknown. ?

Illegal aliens are often involved in DWIs at a rate that is 3-6 times greater than their representation in the population. Resulting costs are unknown. ?

At a 5% representation, illegal aliens are responsible for 844 alcohol related fatalities. Data suggests their participation is actually far higher. (Rep.King states that illegal aliens were responsible for 4,745 alcohol related fatalities. If so, that would 5.6 times as many deaths as representation.) Resulting costs are unknown. ?

Based on NHTSA data and a 5% participation rate, illegal are responsible for 309,050 accidents, 2,132 deaths, 139,400 injuries, and a cost of $11.5 billion. Data suggest their involvement is much higher, maybe 3-5 times higher. $11.5B

Half of all children born to Hispanic Americans in 2002 were illegitimate, twice the rate for American whites and 42 percent higher than the overall American rate. Rates are suspected of being even higher for Hispanic illegal aliens. Resulting costs are unknown. ?

There are an estimated 5.1 million ESL students in the USA. If 90% of the ESL students are children of illegal aliens then the education costs for children of illegal aliens is about $34.5 billion per year. $34.5B

Many illegal aliens are carrying horrific third world diseases. In the 40 years prior to 2002, there were only 900 total cases of leprosy in the US. In the following three years there have been 9,000 cases. TB is epidemic in many illegal alien communities and a new Multiple-Drug-Resistant (MDR) TB is spreading. Each person infected with TB will infect 10 others. Treating a single case of MDR TB costs between $250,000 and $1,200,000 per person. Resulting costs are unknown. ?

Between March 2000 and March 2005, only 9 percent of the net increase in jobs for adults went to people born in the US but natives accounted for 61 percent of the net increase in the overall size of the 18- to 64-year-old population. The jobs were taken mostly by illegal aliens, displacing native born Americans. Resulting costs are unknown. ?

The National Academy of Science reported that from 1980 to 1995 there was a 44% of the decline in the real wages of high school dropouts as a result of immigration. This affects Black and Hispanics Americans the greatest and is a great contributor to the high unemployment rate in this segment of the population. Resulting costs are unknown. ?

Harvard Professor George Borjas has reported that illegal aliens displaced American workers at a cost in excess of $133 billion dollars in 2005. $133B

The Wall Street investment firm Bear Stearns states we are losing $35 billion a year in income tax collections from jobs that are now off the books. $35B

National Academy of Sciences study estimated that immigration’s net benefit to the American economy is only $10 billion. This item is included to illustrate one of the very few real economic benefits of tolerating illegal aliens. Most of the other benefits of illegal aliens “doing the work that Americans won’t” at lower wages goes into the pockets of their employers. -$10B

A Rice University study calculated that in 2006 the net annual cost of legal and illegal immigration will add up to $108 billion. Illegal immigration is about half the total. $54B

The population of the USA recently crossed the 300,000,000. At the present growth rate, it will hit 400 million as early as 2029 and about 500 million in 2050. And if things don’t change real fast, maybe even a Billion by 2075. Additional infrastructure costs will be in the TRILLIONS. ?

Immigration will account for 96 percent of the future increase in the school-age population over the next 50 years. Cost to the infrastructure is unknown. ?

A recent report notes that illegals sent and estimated $45 Billion south in 2006, which was up from an estimated $30 Billion in 2004. That money leaving the economy does not produce secondary jobs here.

Using a 2:1 money multiplier, that is $90 billion removed from the American economy. $90B

A Census Bureau study estimates that households headed by illegal aliens used $10 billion more in government services than they paid in taxes in 2002. These figures are only for the federal government; costs at the state and local level are also significant. The study also finds that if illegal aliens were given amnesty, the fiscal deficit at the federal level would grow by nearly $29 billion. $10-29B

Jonathan Weisman of the Washington Post states “The Senates embattled immigration bill would raise government spending by as much as $126 billion over the next decade, $12.6B

While some of the costs summarized above are subsets, e.g. cost of the murders as part of the cost of crime, as you can see the economic costs of tolerating illegal immigration is quite considerable. You are paying for it in terms of higher taxes, insurance premiums, et cetera. Some estimates place the net costs of each illegal alien in the country at $50,000 – $100,000. (FYI: 12,000,000 X $50,000 = $600,000,000,000) When the all the indirect costs are factored in, it is probably even higher. In any case, it is a cost that YOU are paying for.

Even saving ten cents on a head of lettuce, how much lettuce would that buy?

Regardless,

What price do you put on each American who has been molested, raped, killed, or murdered by an illegal alien?

http://www.usillegalaliens.com/the_costs_of_illegal_immigration.html


13 posted on 08/03/2017 7:30:54 AM PDT by Bob434
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and we have maggots on the left whining about the cost of deportations? And whining about a mere $20 billion to build a wall? We will e saving HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of dollars per year- every year- by deporting illegals and building a wall
!


14 posted on 08/03/2017 7:32:15 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: huldah1776

And the “But they pay taxes” argument is dead too. None of them make enough in a year to be required to even file.


15 posted on 08/03/2017 7:34:42 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: deport
There were 5.6 million Mexican unauthorized immigrants living in the U.S. in 2015 and 2016...

I'm calling BS. It's probably four times that for all illegal Mexican aliens.

16 posted on 08/03/2017 7:38:18 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Bob434

absolutely and it did not include children.


17 posted on 08/03/2017 7:38:30 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: Openurmind

yup. if they were paying taxes they wouldn’t be getting all the benefits.


18 posted on 08/03/2017 7:40:16 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: MileHi

LOL yup. the politicians have been quoting what 12 million for the last 20 years?


19 posted on 08/03/2017 7:41:25 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: huldah1776

Absolutely. If they made enough to owe taxes they would be making too much to get benefits. So in the end we are getting the double whammy, They collect the benefits and work under the table.


20 posted on 08/03/2017 7:55:06 AM PDT by Openurmind
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