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HOW CAN WE BROKER A DEAL WHEN WE DON’T UNDERSTAND ONE OF THE PARTIES?
Jerusalem Post ^ | 7-25-17 | ALAN JOSEPH BAUER

Posted on 07/26/2017 4:47:52 AM PDT by SJackson

While many Israelis may not love the Palestinians, a vast majority want peace with them and wish them a good life; the same cannot be said coming in the other direction

Actctive attempts by US administrations to broker a peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians have been going on since the days of Richard Nixon. With over 40 years of failure, one might reason that there would be some soul-searching in Washington before trying again to make what President Donald Trump has described as the “ultimate deal.” Unfortunately, such introspection is rare and as such true progress remains elusive. One of the most fundamental reasons we don’t get much out of massive peace-making efforts is that we do not understand the Palestinian side of the equation.

This past Friday, Israeli Arabs from Umm el-Fahm murdered two Israeli policemen guarding the Temple Mount. Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas called Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to condemn the attack. Now on the face of it, this is a very good step: in the recent past, such as after the stabbing death of a border policewoman last month also in the Old City of Jerusalem, Abbas remained reticent. So on the surface, this looks like progress: the Palestinian president has started to condemn terrorism against Israelis.

The murdered policemen this past Friday were Druse residents of northern Israel. For Abbas, the murder of Druse is not only of no benefit but it further undermines a constituency he wants on his side. Condemning the murder of Druse policemen does not inflame his base and helps Abbas with an important minority group in the region. Had those guarding the Temple Mount been Jews, Abbas would almost certainly never have called.

Hamas had praised the attack (before the identities of the murdered had been released to the press) and Abbas cannot risk condemning the same activity which his government supports via stipends to terrorists in Israeli jails and families of suicide bombers who had killed Israelis. In Washington, no doubt the leadership would see Abbas’ call as a step forward; in reality, it was the very specific conditions of the attack that let Abbas look diplomatic but at no personal political cost.

Maybe the analysis above seems somewhat over-the-top. But I’ll offer some concrete support: my wife, son and I testified in a federal anti-terrorism trial in February, 2015. We were part of a group of 11 families that had sued the PA and PLO for their role in attacks in which American citizens had been killed and wounded. A very curious thing happened in the courthouse at 500 Pearl Street. All of the families had representatives testify on the specific attacks in which they were involved. In two cases, and in two cases only, a woman representing the PLO and sitting in the courtroom came up and hugged one of the witnesses immediately after his testimony and said how sorry she was for his loss. In both cases, the witnesses were non-Jewish fathers who had lost a child in the Hebrew University bombing.

This same woman did not hug any Jews, she did not offer them her condolences.

Picture a plane sliding off the runway somewhere in the South and when people slide down the emergency escape slide, a woman at the bottom asks the white passengers if they were okay while completely ignoring black and Hispanic travelers. Such behavior would lead to outrage and the woman’s dismissal.

The utter hatred of Jews that is prominent throughout the Palestinian territories and leadership makes any peace-making efforts a pipe dream. President Bill Clinton thought that one could make a deal – the Israelis give a little, Yasser Arafat gives a little, and a peace deal is born. President Clinton could not fathom the hatred the Palestinians feel for the Jews and the lengths they will go to destroy Israel and its Jewish inhabitants. No Nazi was ever ordered or encouraged to commit suicide to kill a Jew; compare this state of affairs with the near deification of dozens of Palestinian suicide bombers, many of whom have streets, squares, soccer stadia and scholarships named after them.

President Trump has invested a great deal of personal time and prestige in pushing peace talks forward between Israel and the Palestinians. While many Israelis may not love the Palestinians, a vast majority want peace with them and wish them a good life; the same cannot be said coming in the other direction. The Palestinian hatred of the Jews has been nurtured for over 100 years, and its domination of Palestinian politics makes any peace deal that does not include total Israeli capitulation on territory and “refugees” a non-starter in Ramallah. The Americans must learn to understand this point. Yes, Abbas called Netanyahu – but when the victims were Jews, no phone call was placed in Ramallah. And that says it all.


TOPICS: Editorial; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: israel; palestinians

1 posted on 07/26/2017 4:47:52 AM PDT by SJackson
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2 posted on 07/26/2017 4:49:21 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: SJackson

Sigh. It’s not that hard. Follow the money.


3 posted on 07/26/2017 4:54:34 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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To: SJackson

The assumption is that there can be peace.

There can not.

For Israel Jews to prevail, there must be massive deaths of people in Gaza and the West Bank. There must be war in which many people are killed.


4 posted on 07/26/2017 5:04:25 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: SJackson

The US and the West cannot make/force peace on any party there.

One of the main stumbling blocks for policy makers is not understanding the mentality or if understanding it, capitulating to it. This is what the French and British did in WWI/WWII/Creation of Israel.

The eggheads at State, those highly intelligent, multi-lingual “experts” always get it wrong. Why? Mentality and the transference of Western values, mores, attitudes and desires on primitive, bloodthirsty savages.

When diplomats look for parity between Israelis and Paleostinians, they make basic assumptions about not both but one party in this conflict. The Arabs are at war with Israel not just the Paleostinians.

There can be no peace until the Arabs/Muslims grow up, take responsibility for their miserable lives and decide to take proactive steps in IMPROVING their lot instead of trying to kill Jews all the time.

If the Paleostinian (PLO/HAMAS) really wanted peace with Israel, this conflict would have finally ended in 1993 with the Oslo Peace Accords.

The West and Israel foolishly believed the arch-terrorist Yassir Arafart had finally given up what they call the “Armed Resistance” (read kill all the Jews) and were ready for peace.

Alas it was all an Israeli Left wing + Clintoon + European Quartet rouse and many Jews were blown to bits while many Paleostinians died in the middle of an attack against Jews, just like what happened on the Temple Mount last week. They want to kill or be killed, this is what they live for.

Arabs murder Jews/Israeli policemen, Jews put up metal detectors, Arabs riot, (just as they did in 1920, 1929, 1935-1940, 1987, 2000, etc. They have many “days of rage” over BS, but the truth has never mattered to the Arabs or their leaders.

So, if you want peace, stop supporting the Arab Muslims in their eventual goals of eliminating Israel and start calling for a serious accounting of their words and deeds.

I know the West won’t do this so the bloodshed continues...and naturally the killings spread to Europe and America just a Benjamin predicted when he was Israel’s ambassador to the UN. Is the world listening?


5 posted on 07/26/2017 5:11:28 AM PDT by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.)
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To: SJackson

Have the Arab squatters of the West Bank and Gaza kept ANY of the ‘agreements’ they have made?

And if they don’t negotiate in good faith, why negotiate at all?


6 posted on 07/26/2017 5:52:24 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: mad_as_he$$

The “ultimate deal” between the Palestinians (not a nationality, by the way) and the Israelis, would culminate in the REMOVAL of all Arabs and other Islamics from both the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, restoration of these lands to Israel sovereignty, and relocating the now displaced persons from both Gaza and West Bank to some locality far, far away. I would suggest Mars, but transport to there would be a difficult undertaking at the moment.

Maybe Antarctica.


7 posted on 07/26/2017 5:57:37 AM PDT by alloysteel (The difference between Illinois and Venezuela, is that toilet tissue is still available in Illinois.)
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