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Pennsylvania Allows Guns and Knives in Schools for Lawful Purposes
Ammoland ^ | 18 July, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/19/2017 2:04:15 AM PDT by marktwain

Arizona -(Ammoland.com)- In Pennsylvania, it is illegal to possess a weapon on school grounds. There are broad exceptions. From 18 Pa.C.S. 912(c):

(c) Defense.–It shall be a defense that the weapon is possessed and used in conjunction with a lawful supervised school activity or course or is possessed for other lawful purpose.

The words are clear. The meaning is plain.  As a father, Andrew Goslin brought a pocketknife to school and showed it to school administrators to demonstrate the silliness of their no pocketknives policy.

The police were called, Goslin was arrested. The case went all the way to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court (called the Superior Court in Pennsylvania).

On 16 February, 2017, the Superior Court of Pennsylvania correctly decided to uphold the plain language of the law.  From Commonwealth v. Goslin (pdf):

We conclude that the language of Section 912(c), though broad, is unambiguous, and that Appellant possessed his pocketknife on school grounds for “other lawful purpose.” Therefore, we vacate Appellant’s Judgment of Sentence and order a new trial.4

It did not take long for another law abiding citizen to be saved from the clutches of overzealous bureaucrats: From delcotimes.com:

Jordan was charged with a single count of possessing a weapon on school property. That charge was withdrawn Friday, however, due to new guidance from the Pennsylvania Superior Court in another case, Commonwealth v. Goslin.

That opinion, filed Feb. 26, stated that carpenter Andrew Goslin brought a work knife with him to a meeting at an elementary school. He was found guilty of possessing a weapon on school property during a bench trial, but appealed the verdict.

The statute provides that


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: banglist; knife; pa; school
The Pennsylvania Superior Court upheld the law. How refreshing!
1 posted on 07/19/2017 2:04:15 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
(c) Defense.–It shall be a defense that the weapon is possessed and used in conjunction with a lawful supervised school activity or course or is possessed for other lawful purpose.

Unless a knife is possessed for an unlawful purpose it is possessed for a lawful purpose.

Unless the prosecutor could show the defendant had ill intent in his possession of the knife I could not vote for conviction.

2 posted on 07/19/2017 2:20:36 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: marktwain

The scary thing is that it never should have gone to the Superior Court in the first place. How many people had to make the wrong decision for it to go that far?


3 posted on 07/19/2017 2:58:06 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. Obama free since 1/20/17. PTL ~ Þ)
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To: Blue Jays

There is meanwhile a 10" full-tang chef's knife in the school cafeteria kitchen not hurting anyone.
They would faint if they saw something like that in a wooden block or magnetized to the kitchen wall.


4 posted on 07/19/2017 3:22:05 AM PDT by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: marktwain

It would be nice if the Wisconsin supreme court would rule the same plain meaning.

Of the constitutional bearing arms amendment any lawful purpose.


5 posted on 07/19/2017 3:29:24 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: marktwain

Only in leftist liberal fascist la la land could you have such a cutting decision.

Thank God for the Constitution.


6 posted on 07/19/2017 3:33:53 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama Fascism (http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Blue Jays; Chode; All
OK now You just STOP IT with the Common Sense part. How dare You even think like that!!! 😎
7 posted on 07/19/2017 3:35:10 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Progress- the opposite of congress)
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To: mabarker1

"...how dare you even think like that..."


Sometimes these utterly crazy thoughts get in my head. LOL.

8 posted on 07/19/2017 3:49:41 AM PDT by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: marktwain

We had a rifle team in the school. I had a principal who would stop and ask to see your pocket knife? If you had a dull blade he taught you how to hone an edge. If you didn’t have one on you he wanted to know why?


9 posted on 07/19/2017 4:10:15 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: Candor7
>>Only in leftist liberal fascist la la land could you have such a cutting decision.
 
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It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages.
 
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10 posted on 07/19/2017 4:18:39 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: Blue Jays
Yeah, I know. Just when Ya think you have it all together BAM!!! Yer brain just falls out😜
11 posted on 07/19/2017 4:33:38 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Progress- the opposite of congress)
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To: blackdog
As a kid in elementary school in the 1960's we regularly played mumbly peg at recess.

How times have changed.
12 posted on 07/19/2017 8:23:08 AM PDT by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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To: jy8z; All

Been there, done that.

The possession of knives by school children was regularly encouraged, to foster responsibility and problem solving.


13 posted on 07/19/2017 12:21:29 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: mabarker1
they'd faint if they saw pics from my highschool parking lot in the 70's, i'd look like the militia was holding a rally or something
14 posted on 07/19/2017 4:47:36 PM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: Chode

Yep, even in Houston they were more concerned with cigarette smoking and the hippies long hair.


15 posted on 07/20/2017 12:43:32 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Progress- the opposite of congress)
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