Laws of that kind would pave the way to a total ban on abortion from conception forward.
This law doesn't seem to do that, however, instead only declaring that if the mother unilaterally authorizes the murder of the baby via abortion, she has to tell the father of the baby what she did after the fact.
Inflammatory headline. Must get the father’s consent, not “a man’s permission.”
I am not sure how I feel about this law. I am definitely pro-life, but I can imagine circumstances where the father is nothing more than a sperm donor.
I’d agree with it, I suppose, if the father were legally obligated to take care of the little one, pay for clothing, school, food, etc. Perhaps even get up at night when the baby cries?
Oh, I just realized...I am advocating marriage. How old-fashioned of me! /s
Women gave up a lot during the “sexual revolution.”
“fetal remains.”
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I do have a slight problem with this phrasing, however. My sister and I recently buried our father; I would never call him “remains.”
He is, was, and always will be, our Dad.
shame, punish, or burden women for making these decisions,
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Obama could have said this...
He doesn’t want his daughters “punished” with a baby...
This also could have been said 50 years ago when I was a teenager...
Shame ??? sex before marriage ...
Punish ??? For sex before marriage ...
Burden ??? Most unwed women weren’t burdened with a baby...they gave the child up for adoption...
The decisions involved with abortion don’t start with planning the gruesome murder of a baby...the first is the decision to have sex outside of marriage...most married women don’t abort their babies...
But I don’t know why these females would be concerned...many men want them to abort the baby so they don’t have to support the child or marry the female...
the playboys claiming women “trick” them into marriage...are just waiting to trap them...will love this
I abhor abortions. But this law seems unconstitutional.
The usual English term for this poorly characterized "man" or "individual" is "the baby's father", or, "the man whose child it is".
Don't tell me, let me guess--she was walking down the street, happened to pass a man, and *WHAM* she was impregnated. Nothing she could have done about it. It's like she was hit by lightning or something.
For the love of all that's good, can't abortion pushers give women even a little bit of credit for having the ability to control whether they engage in activity that might cause pregnancy or not? Yeah, I know--the abortion industry would collapse if suddenly every woman were to tell her partner that either they use protection, or he's not touching her. There is no profit in women who choose to be responsible.
It wasn’t all that long ago that a woman’s signature on a contract was worthless if the husband didn’t sign it also.
AND if a woman were to sign a contract for a driveway or new sidewalk and hubby came home and said NO WAY, it didn’t get done or if after the fact, probably have a ‘problem’ collecting.
So, I am sure some lawyer closed that ‘loophole’.
Don’t know if it was actual ‘law’ or just the way things were done...I remember into the 80s or 90s and I would tell a plumber or such to get the wifes signature and he would tell me MINE was needed...
We both had a good ‘laugh’ when I told him he better get hers because she was going to be paying for it as I was perfectly happy with NO sidewalk....<: <:
I raise this issue not because I am for choice but rather to consider all the issues involved in any such legislation.
“...respective parent a legal veto”
So how is fatherhood determined? Seems like you just pay some guy $50 to say he is the father and give permission.
It would also require the father to admit paternity, not easy in a lot of cases. And if he does sign and the mother changes her mind then he just committed to child support.
Indeed true. The woman's body plays into this, but we need to additionally consider the person in the woman's body.
Well, unless she created the baby by herself, he SHOULD have some say in its future. He’s the one who gets the bill for supporting it, after all. And we hear endless stories about “deadbeat dads.”
Women can’t have it both ways, and still yammer on about “equality.”
The co-responsibility for the fetus begins with the act of procreation. The woman did not self-reproduce, so of course her partner SHOULD have SOME mutual say in what course the fetus will obtain.
But yes, in a general sense, irrespective of the abortion issue, I would find a woman has no responsibility to obtain any advise or agreement with the father of a fetus she is carrying when she is only pregnant because the man raped her.
Any law like we are discussing should employ both of those points - the man is a co-partner of the woman’s pregnancy had has some rights concerning the course the fetus will obtain, unless that man fathered the fetus by rape.
I do not include incest. If it is rape, it is rape, no matter the relationship between the man and woman. If it is not rape, and only incest, then the act was mutual, not forced, and the father’s rights should not be ignored.
Since the man can be forced to pay child support, he therefore has the right to vote on abortion. Elementary justice.
And the headline is lying. As another Freeper says, it should be “the father’s permission.”
I live in Arkansas and missed this one. I can’t imagine what idiot in the Legislature came up with this and why. There are so many times that trying to consult all family on anything is hard. It also seems to infringe on the rights of spouses and others in making these kind of decisions.
Will they give a DNA test to make sure the male signee is the actual father? I foresee a business opportunity here.
Or would testing be seen as making it more difficult for men to get sex, similar to the effects on voting from requiring voter ID?
Another cottage industry is born. He’ll sign off on her abortion for $50, $100, $250...
