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World's largest firefighting aircraft grounded by U.S. Govt
CBS News ^ | 07/17/2017 | CBS News

Posted on 07/17/2017 7:19:54 AM PDT by gattaca

More than 50 large wildfires are scorching land this morning across the western U.S. But a new firefighting tool is sitting idle in an airport hangar in California because the U.S. Forest Service refuses to let it fly.

The converted Boeing 747 jet, nicknamed the SuperTanker, can drop almost twice as much fire retardant as the largest airtanker currently in service.

"We're the very largest in the world -- there's nobody out there that comes close," said Jim Wheeler. His company, Global SuperTanker, turned a 747-400 series passenger jet -- one of the biggest in the sky -- into the world's largest fire extinguisher.

"We can drop a line of retardant about three kilometers long, about a mile-and-a-half," Wheeler told CBS News correspondent Mark Strassmann, as the plane performed a test run in Colorado last fall.

But in this country, it's virtually worthless unless the U.S. Forest Service gives it permission to fight fires -- something the agency has yet to do, even though the plane was certified by the FAA last September, and has since fought fires in Chile and Israel.

"The frustration factor is exceptionally high," Wheeler said. "It's very hard to watch property burn and lives lost, and we can't get in and help."

In May, the Forest Service issued a request for new airtankers, but said it would only give contracts to planes with a dispensing capacity of between 3,000 and 5,000 gallons. The supertanker can drop more than 19,000 gallons of water or retardant at a time.

Wheeler said, "It begs the question: if your house is on fire, are you going to call the smallest, slowest fire truck?"

Some firefighter advocacy groups suggest the Forest Service might be trying to control its budget, causing delays for the plane, which could cost as much as $250,000 a day to operate. The Forest Service says it can't comment on the dispute because Wheeler filed an official protest last month.

According to Wheeler, the aircraft can be filled in less than 30 minutes. But it's not just the speed and size that make the Supertaker powerful; its pressurized tank system atomizes the water when it's released, rather than just dumping it, like a bucket. "It doesn't break down tree limbs, it won't crush cars or buildings," Wheeler said.

And a firefighter or a stranded resident who happens to be under this big dump of water will be be fine. "You'll get wet, but won't be killed," Wheeler said.

Strassmann asked, "Why hasn't someone done this until now?"

"There's a lot of cost involved in doing this, a lot of testing and a lot of paperwork, and I think that scares most people," Wheeler replied.

California's fire agency currently has an agreement to use the plane, but can't deploy it until the Forest Service gives its approval. It's an expensive aircraft, but at a time of ever-growing wildfires threatening lives and property, Wheeler feels his service is a bargain. "You're not going to put out a 4,000-acre or larger fire with buckets and helicopters. It's just physically impossible," he said.


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Trump did give funds to CA for the Oroville dam even though the had money to maintain it but spent it on other things.


61 posted on 07/17/2017 1:37:03 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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Trump did give funds to CA for the Oroville dam even though the had money to maintain it but spent it on other things.


62 posted on 07/17/2017 1:37:47 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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Trump did give funds to CA for the Oroville dam even though the had money to maintain it but spent it on other things.


63 posted on 07/17/2017 1:38:09 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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Trump did give funds to CA for the Oroville dam even though the had money to maintain it but spent it on other things.


64 posted on 07/17/2017 1:38:43 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Carl Vehse
Deep State NeverTrumpistas in the Forset Service would rather let the forest burn down and blame it on Trump.

He may have something to do with it:

Thomas L. "Tom" Tidwell is the 17th and Current Chief of the United States Forest Service (USFS) of the Department of Agriculture, and was appointed on July 17, 2009 by President Barack Obama, succeeding Gail Kimbell.


65 posted on 07/17/2017 1:50:27 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (RuPaul and Yertle - our illustrious Republican leaders up the Hill - God help us!)
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To: Rusty0604

The last big wildfire (June, 2000) that nearly consumed the Hanford Area (burnt over 200,000 acres and threatened the Nuclear facilities) could have been prevented almost immediately. A car crashed along side the road started the fire, A truck hauling a D-9 bulldozer was close behind and started to unload, but BLM folks were near the scene and told him he could not cut a fire break on Federal land.


66 posted on 07/17/2017 2:06:17 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: shotgun

So the BLM folks were on the job again.


67 posted on 07/17/2017 2:34:09 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: steve86

They would have to be cautious around major fires, and it would be fairly easy to avoid heat columns using panoramic infrared cameras. This being said, they can perform other roles like raining out fuel in the direction of travel of the fire, slowing it down substantially, dropping foam on buildings, and raining on things like grass and scrub instead of forests with firestorms.

Lots of possibilities, for example, aluminum airships.

http://gizmodo.com/the-aluminum-airship-of-the-future-has-finally-flown-1301320903


69 posted on 07/17/2017 4:57:30 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (HitlerÂ’s Mein Kampf, translated into Arabic, is "My Jihad")
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