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LGBT Pride London: police attempt to remove ‘Allah is Gay’ placards for causing offence
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Posted on 07/16/2017 8:21:17 PM PDT by TigerClaws

“Pride is full of placards saying ‘God is Gay’, ‘Jesus had two fathers’, as well as those mocking the church and priests and pope,” writes Maryam Namazie, spokeswoman for the Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain, “Yet CEMB members hold signs saying ‘Allah is Gay’ – as we did – and the police converge to attempt to remove them for causing ‘offence’.”

And now the East London Mosque has filed an official complaint with the organisers of ‘Pride in London‘ (what happened to the ‘Gay’ prefix? Isn’t that kind of important?) alleging ‘Islamophobia’. The mosque’s spokesman Salman Farsi told the Evening Standard: “We’ve raised a complaint with the co-chairs of the event that the group was inciting hatred against Muslims, and in particular [in relation] to our good name, based on absolutely groundless reasons.”

“Our track record for challenging homophobia in East London is quite well known.” he added.

Except, according to Peter Tatchell, that isn’t quite true (or, if you prefer, it’s a lie): “East London Mosque has refused all dialogue with LGBT community,” he tweeted. “It refuses to meet LGBT Muslims. I have asked them 11 times since 2015.”

Oxfam seems to agree: they cancelled an event at the East London Mosque a few years ago after learning that a headline speaker, Ibrahim Hewitt, had declared gay people should be “severely punished” under Islamic law, which some might think sounds slightly Islamophobic.

So somebody is telling porkies.*

‘Pride in London’ (may one no longer have pride in London without… O, never mind) has made it known that they will not tolerate this kind of thing: “If anyone taking part in our parade makes someone feel ostracised, discriminated against or humiliated, then they are undermining and breaking the very principles on which we exist. Our code of conduct is very clear on this matter,” a Pride spokesperson said. “All volunteers, staff and parade groups agree that Pride celebrates diversity and will not tolerate any discrimination of any kind. While our parade has always been a home to protest, which often means conflicting points of view, Pride must always be a movement of acceptance, diversity and unity. We will not tolerate Islamophobia,” s/he added, rather emphatically.

The mosque’s complaint has been referred to the ‘Pride in London’ community advisory board, who are tasked with deciding whether the CEMB will be allowed to participate in future Pride marches. That is to say that ‘Pride in London’ will make a theological determination about whether placards declaring such things as ‘Allah is Gay’ or ‘F**k Islamic Homophobia’ (not, please note, ‘F**k Islam’, as Lucy Masoud of the Fire Brigades Union deceitfully alleged) are, in fact, Islamophobic. This will be a rather important judgment and one which will be worth following, for if the CEMB are banned from marching in next year’s Pride for making people feel “ostracised, discriminated against or humiliated”, then Christians might justifiably object to Christophobic placards or those which mock the Church or insult the Pope. Indeed, anyone anywhere may object to a placard displaying the word ‘F**k’ on the grounds of offence against public decency (for why should young children be barred from participation because of the display of such foul language?)

Perhaps the Bishop of Liverpool might advise on this complex matter of mutually-exclusive freedoms. The Rt Rev’d Paul Bayes has just become a patron of his city’s Pride Festival, which he will doubtless use to highlight the sins of promiscuity and infidelity within the LGBT community while lauding the virtues of fidelity, monogamy and holiness in sexual behaviour, as the Church of England believes and teaches. It is wonderful that a bishop has been honoured with such a prominent pulpit at this sensitive time, in order that he might challenge prejudice and confront discrimination head-on.

But if ‘Allah is Gay’ placards were to appear in Liverpool Pride, whose side would the Bishop take? That of the police who seek to censor them (uniquely) for their intrinsic Islamophobia and causing great offence to local Muslims? Or that of gay (ex-)Muslims who seek to highlight the homophobia in their religion, and the appalling suffering and persecution of LGBT Muslims across the Islamic world(s)? How might he advise the Liverpool Pride community advisory board if they were faced with the same theo-political decision as ‘Pride in London’? What are the limits of discrimination and diversity? Which expressions of diversity must be excluded in order to secure a ‘safe space’ or foster unity? If the Bishop believes in “tackling prejudice and promoting awareness of the richness of our LGBTI+ community”, why should the CEMB be denied the free expression of their colourful and important voice within that community?

If a placard declaring ‘Jesus is a Fag‘ is permissible, why not one which declares ‘Allah is Gay’? Indeed, why not one which says ‘Mohammed is Gay’ or ‘The Prophet is a Puff’?**

Or are we simply to accept the defamation of Jesus and the Church in the name of tolerance and acceptance, but prohibit the defamation of Allah or Mohammed because of a de facto (if not de jure) sharia blasphemy code being zealously implemented by the police?

In the hierarchy of competing rights a battle is being waged for supremacy. With the Church neutered in the never-ending pursuit of a happy via media of mutual flourishing and good disagreement, the apparently irreconcilable polarities are occupied by certain advocates of Islam (mediated by the MCB) and certain advocates of LGBT equality (mediated by Pride). It is difficult to see a successful via media compromise emerging between the two: one either permits ‘Allah is Gay’ placards, or one censors them.

Perhaps it’s time for the emergence of a Queer Prophetology, something akin to the debates surrounding the Queer Christology of embodied friendship and the divine celebration of incarnational diversity, for, as the eternal archetypal Muslim, surely Mohammed was the embodiment of all human variation and behavioural modulation?

Or is ‘Pride in London’ about to make the theological determination that Allah is not, never has been and never will be gay, and that to declare so is undoubtedly offensive (ie blasphemous) to orthodox Muslims?

No doubt, then, the CEMB will be barred from future Pride marches “on ‘Health & Safety’ grounds”.

And no doubt the Bishop of Liverpool will remain silent.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
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1 posted on 07/16/2017 8:21:17 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Why can’t Christians lodge complaints too? They should start doing it.


2 posted on 07/16/2017 8:30:12 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them.)
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To: virgil

Christians seem to turn the other cheek. Why be so meek & timid?


3 posted on 07/16/2017 8:32:00 PM PDT by entropy12 (Russia did not elect Trump! Americans did!!)
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To: TigerClaws

Pride Mubarak, Gay Shalla.


4 posted on 07/16/2017 8:33:43 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (:-p)
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To: TigerClaws; Charles Henrickson
Time for yet another stanza to my multi year (too) long work in process lampooning the British schools infatuation with Islam:

God Save the Queen

When gay priders sashay
No signs “Allah is Gay”
Don’t dare offend.
All animals equal
But some are more equal
Living by Orwell’an rules
Free speech does end.

And the previous stanzas:

To Muslims don't be rude
Living in dhimmitude,
No offense bring.
Gospel preaching is "hate"
Christian faith second rate
The goal of servile state:
Alllah is King.

All women Hijabs wear
To avoid angry stares
Muslim or not.
Cover in sight of school!
That is the contract rule
Can't have muzzie school boys drool
At hair so hot.

For kiddie's farm set play
We take the pigs away
(They are unclean)
Never make Muzzies mad
They might declare Jihad
And though it makes children sad
Pigs are unseen.

When Ramadan draws near
We forsake ale and beer
(Can't give offense)
School children can't eat lunch
Can't even candies crunch
Lest Moslems' panties bunch
Dhimmis' nonsense.

Can't stop with solid food
Liquid intake is rude
Don't "water" kids
Let them all dehydrate
Christian faith"s second-rate
Diversity"s ever-great
Alllah is King.

Don"t ignite a Koran
Can"t even burqas ban
They might protest
Shar-i-a's here to stay
Amputate, stone away
Beheadings on Friday
Thus falls the West.

We'll sport a shav-ed head
Wear sashes made of red
To get along.
Appeasement is our way,
Chamberlin our main stay
"Give us peace in our day"
Our final song.

History books made clean
"Holocaust" never seen
Must teach a lie.
Separate but equal?
Not in a British school
What is this new found rule?
"All truth must die."

Don"t write Father Christmas
He is no terrorist
But send a note
To those who spread ill will
Torture maim, hurt and kill
Support ISIS, we will
And on them dote

For spitting in a pram
The suspect on the lam
Never sees jail
“White people should not breed”
Such filthy muslim screed
Goes unpunished do take heed:
Britain shall fail.

5 posted on 07/16/2017 8:35:07 PM PDT by lightman (Trump = A glorious amalgamation of Andrew Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt, and Ronald Reagan!)
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To: TigerClaws

‘Pride in London‘ (what happened to the ‘Gay’ prefix? Isn’t that kind of important?)


A number of cities in America have started calling their homosexual events just “Pride”, rather than “Gay Pride”.

The homosexuals are co-opting the word “Pride”, just as they co-opted the word “Gay”.

Just as the word “gay” nowadays means homosexual and only homosexual, not the dictionary definition, we are well on the way for the word “pride” to not be used by its dictionary definition, and only will be used in a homosexual context from now on.


6 posted on 07/16/2017 8:40:36 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: TigerClaws

Let them cause ‘offence’!! The Muzzies can handle it!


7 posted on 07/16/2017 8:50:53 PM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: lightman; TigerClaws; Charles Henrickson

THE WRATH OF THE AWAKENED SAXON
by Rudyard Kipling

It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late,
With long arrears to make good,
When the Saxon began to hate.

They were not easily moved,
They were icy — willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the Saxon began to hate.

Their voices were even and low.
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show
When the Saxon began to hate.

It was not preached to the crowd.
It was not taught by the state.
No man spoke it aloud
When the Saxon began to hate.

It was not suddently bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Saxon began to hate.


8 posted on 07/16/2017 8:54:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Homosexuals also co-opted “civil rights” to refer to whatever they want it to mean.
Basically it means you can’t argue against them - “It’s a civil rights issue” means “you lose, shut up.”

Most brilliant was “Homophobe.” Rather than debate, it’s a useful attack against the person questioning their psychological motives and using the disgust at homosexuality against those who would point out its ill effects.

So brilliant a linguistic coup “homophobia” was the Islamists market tested “Islamophobia” and got high scores. They then sent out marching orders to the compliant MSM to use that phrase as yet another way of attacking critics for hidden psychological motives. Not that you’re really concerned about terrorist bombings, female gender mutilation, acid attacks against young girls trying to go to school, your Islamophobia hidden mental condition is the problem.

Orwell would be proud of the manipulation.


9 posted on 07/16/2017 8:56:17 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws
allah is gay. So there.
10 posted on 07/16/2017 8:58:03 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life :o)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

And we should really take back the rainbow.


11 posted on 07/16/2017 8:58:22 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: TigerClaws

I smell a popcorn shortage.


12 posted on 07/16/2017 8:58:23 PM PDT by o-n-money (We should rename California to Newer Mexico.)
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To: TigerClaws

Strange how the police all over the world are these days, even here in the USA.


13 posted on 07/16/2017 9:04:45 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: TigerClaws

They’ll bend over backward to protect the tender feelings of Muslims, but no other religion would get this kind of protection from free speech. It just goes to show that Islam’s violence and intimidation work, at least on Western liberals.


14 posted on 07/16/2017 9:06:13 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Had they posted “JESUS IS GAY” and Christians complained do you think authorities would give two flips?

Just Muslims have special rights and, mostly, because they’ll shoot and murder people who draw Mohammed images and might go kill these queers. You murder ‘edgy’ humorists, you get special rights.

Notice BOOK OF MORMON was not BOOK OF MOHAMMED.


15 posted on 07/16/2017 9:07:50 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Perfect.

Here where I live I see Indians wearing hats and shirts that say “NATIVE PRIDE” Lol.


16 posted on 07/16/2017 9:09:20 PM PDT by gettinolder
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To: TigerClaws

Peter Hitchens Sunday column on his blog notes that the UK government is unable to publish a report detailing foreign funding for “extremism” (aka terrorism) because it would implicate Saudi Arabia.

http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk

The deeply in debt UK is financially dependent on the Saudis. I think this drives what is described in the article you posted.

Lest we all forget, another deeply in debt country agreed in May to sell weapons to Saudi Arabia and to take Saudi money to be invested in its infrastructure.


17 posted on 07/16/2017 9:21:51 PM PDT by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: TigerClaws
Kinda like the reaction of LGBT activists to the Pulse nite club shootings. Instead of placing the blame directly where it belonged, they tried to make it a rallying cry for more gun control. (Dirty little secret, the gun shops around Orlando experienced an increase in their gay clientele.) When protected classes collide, Islam, no pun intended TRUMPS LGBT. And gay activists will continue to to "reach out" to the islamists because of their common hatred of all things Judeo Christian and Western. In other words they're deluded by the dangerous assumption that an enemy of my enemy is my friend. And we all know what happens when we ASS U ME.
No one is spared when freedom fails
The best men rot in filthy jails
And those who cry"Appease! Appease!"
Are hanged by those they tried to please
18 posted on 07/16/2017 9:44:17 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (Islamophobic? NO! IslamABHORic)
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To: Nextrush

True.

We also left out from the 9/11 report the Saudi involvement. The funding of radical mosques (any mosque=radical) around the globe is done by Saudis. They fund ISIS.

Yet people are screaming about Russia.

Saudis are far worse than post-Soviet Russia but they own us. As do the Chinese.


19 posted on 07/16/2017 9:58:42 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Impala64ssa

One media trick is to generalize Muslims terror to “fundamentalist” and leftists online blame “all religions are evil” after an attack.

Do like to see Muzzies and gays fighting it out - as they should. Divide and conquer the leftists. No way should those two be voting for the same candidates, but they are constantly.


20 posted on 07/16/2017 10:00:42 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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