Skip to comments.NYT: ‘State of Jefferson’ Still Mulls Independence — from California
Posted on 07/16/2017 6:40:39 PM PDT by Trump20162020
The New York Times has published an extensive look at Californias far north, the group of conservative counties in the high Sierra country whose residents often feel alienated from state government, and where a movement to form a new State of Jefferson remains strong.
The Times notes:
The residents of this region argue that their political voice is drowned out in a system that has only one state senator for every million residents.
Many liberals in California describe themselves as the resistance to Mr. Trump. Residents of the north say they are the resistance to the resistance, politically invisible to the Democratic governor and Legislature. Californias strict regulations on the environment, gun control and hunting impinge on a rural lifestyle, they say, that urban politicians do not understand.
The Times also notes: Residents here have long backed a different proposal for a separate state, one that would be carved out of Northern California and the southern reaches of Oregon. Flags of the so-called State of Jefferson, which was first proposed in the 19th century, fly on farms and ranches around the region.
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New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.
Nice flag. The State of Dos Equis?
Extending north to and encompassing douglas county in southern oregon.
Did the Virginia State Legislature vote to allow West Virginia to leave?
Continuing the Civil War metaphor: Pulling a West Virgina would be great, but I fear they may end up being like Eastern Tennessee.
Nevertheless, I wish them well. Very well.
I would prefer that the entire state split into East and West. West California being the coastal counties from Los Angeles to Marin. East California being everything else.
The counties of northwestern Virginia had no interest in secession, being of strong Union sentiment. While the state government in Richmond was pondering a decision to leave the Union, the political leaders of those counties met in Wheeling to discuss the formation of a new state. But as Virginia had not officially seceded, there was a reluctance to move forward. When the voters of Virginia gave their imprimatur to secession, the counties of the northwest voted strongly against it. A second convention in Wheeling in June 1861 declared the secessionist government of Virginia null and void, and the members of the convention elected their own government which was quickly recognized by the federal government. Now there were two state governments for Virginia, one Union and one Confederate.
The convention decreed a statehood election for October in which the residents of 16 northwestern counties voted overwhelmingly for statehood - in those areas occupied by federal troops. In other areas, the vote went against statehood, or there was no vote at all, as the county governments were loyal to the Confederacy. A state constitutional convention met in 1862 and asked for admission to the Union as a new state. Lincoln was willing to grant this - provided West Virginia gradually abolish slavery. As to the constitutionality of creating this new state, Lincoln recognized the Union government of Virginia to be the state government that gave permission for the creation of West Virginia from its territory. In 1863, West Virginia became a state.
Following the Civil War, Virginia sued to undo the creation of West Virginia. Congress, at the same time, passed a joint resolution endorsing the creation of the state, and in 1870 the Supreme Court agreed.
Gimme a break. That’s like you taking Boardwalk and Park Place and I’m getting the crappy purple properties in Monopoly.
The two crosses signify that northern CA has been double-crossed by the south.
Also, that southern Oregon has been double-crossed by the north.
Just incorporate Eastern California into Nevada. No need for 51 states. New England has 12 lefty senators.
Ha haaaa! I love it. The official beer of The State of Jefferson.
Nah, I want to see two new conservative states carved out of the red portions of this map:
Will Charlie Chaplin be the first governor?
Since the blue areas are not contiguous, what would happen with them? You can’t allow them to make four little blue states while the red areas only make two red states; that would be a net gain of two liberal senators.
The four conservative senators would be negated by the eight liberal senators, leading to a surplus of four liberal senators in that region. This is a net gain of two since the region currently has two liberal senators.
That looks like Hitler.
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