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1 posted on 07/16/2017 7:20:08 AM PDT by Kaslin
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I don’t think the CIA would like the idea, but if we could genetically engineer a plant disease that wiped out the opium poppy, it would really change things in Afghanistan.


2 posted on 07/16/2017 7:24:23 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Islam: You have to just love a "religion" based on rape and sex slavery.)
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Was Korea unwinable? Not just in the immediate aftermath of WWII but in 50 years of NK amping up their weaponry to WMD?


3 posted on 07/16/2017 7:25:58 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Bill Clinton and Al Gore took illegal campaign contributions from the Chi-Coms and 'nobody' cared...)
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Now the U.S. force in-country is 8,400


8400 isn’t that many.

They are all volunteers.

It is an “unwinnable” situation, of course, but it is also an extremely good arena for testing weapons and tactics... and who better to test them on than the filthiest of filthy muzzies?

My only quibble would be with compensation. Are the 8400 volunteers being adequately compensated for their risk-of-life-and-limb?


4 posted on 07/16/2017 7:27:15 AM PDT by samtheman (As an oil exporter, why would the Russians prefer Trump to Hillary? (Get it or be stupid.))
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This article just reinforces the limitations of a military force.

If you recognize that you can't defeat a foreign military force without maintaining a permanent military presence halfway around the world, then either the tactics are all wrong for the situation or the military isn't even the correct tool to deal with the problem.

7 posted on 07/16/2017 7:34:32 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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Can’t win in Afghanistan without winning in Pakistan too.


8 posted on 07/16/2017 7:35:06 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon
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The problem is not just limited to Afghanistan or one distinct group such as al Qaeda. Panetta and the other globalists refuse to recognize the real cause of the terrorism, violence and political instability because it does not fit their political narrative. The fact is that Islamic culture is simply not compatible with the practices, values and institutions that constitute Western modernity. the Islamic world cannot avoid the challenge of the West. Many Muslims have become bewildered reactionary jihadists who are clinging to the values and even dress of the 10th century in a violent attempt to maintain control. Others are adapting to modernity or migrating Westward. Violence, social and political instability is now endemic in the Muslim world even in the most wealthy countries. American policy and military force cannot and should not involve itself in this cataclysm. Eventually the Muslims themselves will be forced to transform or wither. Best the US stays detached, aware and retaliates severely only when American are attacked. Sixty years of US involvement in that quagmire has done nothing to enhance the security of the American people, has created unnecessary bitter enemies and has cost the American people huge material and human sacrifices. Panetta’s vision has been wrong and has done real harm to the United States and its people.


10 posted on 07/16/2017 7:41:28 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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I was with Trump since 2015, when he first walked down the escalator. I forced myself to get involved in politics in a major way for the first time in my long life. I worked the voters and manned the precincts the day of his election. But if Trump hasn’t gotten us the hell out of Iraq and Afghanistan, which he can do literally overnight as CoC (and builds the damn wall), then it doesn’t matter if he’s re-elected. I will just say a prayer for the late, great US of A and be done with it all. It will be truly over.


12 posted on 07/16/2017 7:48:55 AM PDT by DrPretorius
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The only was to Win, is to ELIMINATE ISLAM.


16 posted on 07/16/2017 8:15:18 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: Kaslin

Ban all Mid-East, South African and North Asian muslims from entering the USA.

9/11 would not have happened if the Saudi hijackers were not in the USA, regardless of whether the Taliban was in power, or not.

The globalists and debt financiers need to declare “multiculturalism” as a great good, and promote the use of the word “racism” as important PR gestures in keeping their scam going.


17 posted on 07/16/2017 8:16:36 AM PDT by PGR88
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The senior leaders in the military don’t want smart subordinates.

They want subordinates who are loyal to them.


19 posted on 07/16/2017 8:19:48 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Kaslin
the main enemy — the Taliban — still controls nearly 40 percent of the country’s land and about a third of the population

The concept that the Taliban is OUR "main enemy" is false, in the sense that the Taliban are the natural government of a place like Afghanistan, and the internal affairs of Afghanistan are no concern of ours.

Prosecuting what IS our concern requires ZERO American footprint there, it simply requires an understanding by the Taliban leadership that there are two Trident missile subs stationed in the Indian Ocean with pre-programmed targets in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and that ANY activity that harms a hair on the head of any American representative overseas, or any American citizen at home will result in annihilation.

Otherwise, I don't give a sh*t what they do with their sh*thole.

22 posted on 07/16/2017 8:28:00 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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We are not winning and we won’t ‘win’ there.
Why?
Because the definition of ‘winning’ is incompatible with what is possible in Afghanistan (and many other places like it).

After 16 years the Taliban is back in control of over half the country, AQ is back as is ISIS. The same territory that was taken and retaken and re-retaken is still up for grabs.
All for what? What have accomplished?

Afghanistan is not really a nation. It is a collection of feudal fiefdoms and always has been. We’re not dealing with a ‘naton’ as such. We’ve spent BILLIONS (if not in the trillions) there and nothing to show for it ... plus a lot of dead on our side.

Enough
Enough
Enough


26 posted on 07/16/2017 8:36:47 AM PDT by Lorianne (NO)
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But the troops are not *dying* in South Korea and haven’t for a while.


30 posted on 07/16/2017 8:50:41 AM PDT by Krosan
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"Victory"?

That's 20th century thinking.

The way to get the maximum benefit of having a war is to keep it going forever.
Just don't fight any other industrialized countries.

If you're in the right business of course.

33 posted on 07/16/2017 9:42:08 AM PDT by Salman (I don't do Facebook, and neither should you.)
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We are not in Afghanistan for no reason.
The place is filthy rich in rare natural resources, more so than nearly any place.
Question should be, are we mining necessary Odd resources?


35 posted on 07/16/2017 2:04:19 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (President Trump makes obammy look like the punk he is.)
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