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USMC Vet: Employer Won't Let Me Come to Work With PTSD Service Dog
Fox News ^ | July 8, 2017

Posted on 07/08/2017 7:00:17 AM PDT by KeyLargo

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To: Drew68
There isn't one law out there that doesn't have some sort of abuse attached to it.

The ADA has done more for Americans with legitimate disabilities than the abuses you seem to focus on.........

As for this Marine vet with 10 years military service and tours in both Iraq and Afghanistan, he can marry his dog if he wants, I have no problem with it. He served his country and now it's up to his employer to obey the law and acomodate him.

As a side note, last week I witnessed a young vet with no legs trying to unload his collapsible wheelchair from his car so he could gas up his car at the gas pump next to the one I was using. And this past spring there was another young vet with a prosthetic leg and his service dog at the local Meijer's store.........

41 posted on 07/08/2017 8:07:55 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Bryanw92

You are fortunate that whatever set of circumstances aligned for this young man or for other vets for PTSD did not happen to you. There have been sufferers of what we now know as PTSD after every war, like shell shock? We don’t know anything about this young man and what he experienced, and I think it’s really kind of rotten to denigrate the reactions of people who go to war zones and experience really horrific things like having their friends blown up right beside them just because not everyone reacts that way. We all have our weaknesses.

My grandfather served in WW2 and suffered from bad nightmares for the rest of his life, over 40 years. And yet he served admirably and with his life continually at risk. He was no snowflake.

Yeah, the whole emotional support animal thing has been stretched to allow ingenues to carry their “babies” around with them in their purses, but that is not what we are talking about here.

Cincinnati Bell may not be able to make a reasonable accomodation for an employee with a service dog, but they should just say that. Right now, it looks like they are refusing him just out of inconsideration, but it might well be that a dog is an unreasonable accomodation and we just don’t know why.


42 posted on 07/08/2017 8:13:14 AM PDT by Chicory
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To: TADSLOS

Everyone and his brother are bringing pets on planes. Our friend is a pilot for Jet Blue and he says the “comfort” animals are not limited to dogs and cats. Think turkey, monkey and pig.
We were on a flight ,with what appeared to be a very normal couple, who had no apparent physical problems. They had a very large golden retriever and they sat in the first row. When the 3rd passenger went to sit down beside them he was asked to change his seat so the dog could occupy the floor in front of all 3 seats.


43 posted on 07/08/2017 8:13:24 AM PDT by surrey
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To: KeyLargo

Are there Muslim employees who will object to having a dog in the office? There has to be something going on.


44 posted on 07/08/2017 8:15:41 AM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Vaquero
Say what?


45 posted on 07/08/2017 8:16:09 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Climate Change: The Imminent Crisis That Never Arrives and the gravy train that never ends.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

No, he’s not.


46 posted on 07/08/2017 8:19:29 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

residential telecom installers is an entry level job. He doesn’t need similar work, he just needs work.


47 posted on 07/08/2017 8:23:03 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Mears

There are very few real ‘service’ dogs, like seeing-eye dogs. Most of the so-called ‘service’ dogs are really emotional support animals wearing a home-made or bought off the internet red “service animal” collar. People use and abuse the actual service animal allowances made by businesses and the government so they can bring their pets to the mall, to church, on an airplane, etc.


48 posted on 07/08/2017 8:23:32 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: Alberta's Child
I agree. If you can’t get your work done without a dog sitting next to you, you’re going to have to accept the fact that a lot of jobs and a lot of employers are simply going to be out of the question for you.

For example: Imagine if he was working in a 'cat house'?/snicker

49 posted on 07/08/2017 8:33:05 AM PDT by Don Corleone (.leave the gun, take the canolis, take it to the mattress.)
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To: Abby4116; yldstrk
My daughter could have helped you find the 'rule that says there are no more rules'.

The ADA respect of helpful animals has been lost to people like my daughter who think they cant leave the house without their pet. And she knows every instance she may come across where that law says she is right and, I am sometimes embarrased for her to be my daughter when she goes off chapter and verse on people she has never met on why its legal as to what she wants to do with her dog.

The wife and I both have asked where this come from in our child and we have absolutly no idea. We tried to raise her with conservative christian background, but the "emotional support animal" thing really found home with her.

I am with yldstrk. Get a different job.

50 posted on 07/08/2017 8:41:35 AM PDT by Delta 21
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To: yldstrk

Actually residential telecom installer for Cincy Bell is a union (CWA) position that comes with full benefits, training and a very good career path. Not your typical entry level job. I know guys who started out climbing poles in the desert and ended up with CCIEs, managing major corporate deployments. If I were just coming out of the military I wouldn’t throw an opportunity like that away.


51 posted on 07/08/2017 8:43:00 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Proudly deplorable since 2016.)
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To: ransomnote; bigmak007

Muslem’s dont like dogs because dogs HATE Muslem’s.

That Lassie story about the dog running to the local Squishy mart full of Muslems still has me laughing!


52 posted on 07/08/2017 8:52:45 AM PDT by Delta 21
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

He’s prolly just fighting for that good job.

Prayers to the vet.


53 posted on 07/08/2017 8:55:10 AM PDT by Delta 21
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To: Living Free in NH

A Service Tech, that has to go into homes where the owner doesn’t want a dog, is a problem. There may be dogs, cats or other animals, that could conflict?
As a retired Ma Bell employee(42 years, 22 Craft and the rest management), I had some conflicts. The times I was a Union Steward, the appropriate answer was to arbitrate(compromise).
There are many “inside jobs”, he could look into. The company has numerous “outside jobs” also, that do not require entering a customer’s residence.
What I see here is a privileged individual, that sees it only ONE way! Time to Negotiate!
One time in my career, I wore a old Fatigue Jacket to work, that had a flag on it. Management, said “remove the flag, jacket or you are suspended until you do”!
I put my jacket in the closet.


54 posted on 07/08/2017 8:55:52 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (" Winning not Whining"!)
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To: Rebelbase

Well I stand corrected


55 posted on 07/08/2017 9:04:14 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: KeyLargo

is this an actual service dog or an emotional support pet?
I am not thrilled with dogs being everywhere nowadays (have 3 dogs myself)


56 posted on 07/08/2017 9:11:40 AM PDT by ronniesgal (still winning (and a self satisfied Pr!ck, according to WMarshal))
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To: Chicory

>>My grandfather served in WW2 and suffered from bad nightmares for the rest of his life, over 40 years. And yet he served admirably and with his life continually at risk. He was no snowflake.

Exactly my point. Your grandfather was no snowflake. I had an uncle who did 32 bombing missions over Europe. I had another who was a POW in Korea. I had another who endured artillery barrages in WW2 with the Purple Heart for one of them. I’ve seen a 4” seawater line blow apart at test depth on a submarine and been blinded (temporarily) and hospitalized after an electrical switchboard blew up with enough energy to instantly melt bus bars. People have endured horrible things in the military, but only this generation needs dogs to hug them constantly so they can function.


57 posted on 07/08/2017 9:27:05 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: Delta 21
I was really just looking to see what the law says.

There are "service dog kits" you can buy online to call anything a service dog. That is so wrong.

I have a lot of respect for those true service dogs and their owners - but the "emotional support animals" act as sort of a "binky" for adults.

58 posted on 07/08/2017 9:58:17 AM PDT by Abby4116
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To: batterycommander
Animals for emotional support of the PTSD patient are not covered by the ADA.

I didn't see enough information to support or refute your statement. The article refers to the dog as a Service animal, those are a class above ESA's, if the dog is trained to alert to an oncoming episode requiring the Vet to take medication or other treatment it must indeed be allowed in to work with the Vet, no differently than if it was a Seeing EYe Dog. However if the dog is only an ESA serving no real medical assistance other than a calming influence than he has no right to take the animal into otherwise restricted locations.

I don't think there is enough information available to us. While I agree with others that too many people take advantage of laws that were written with the protection of disabled in mind, like in California where it is illegal to ask for proof that the dog is a service animal, and this allows anybody to take their dirty, untrained baby into grocery stores and damn near anywhere.

59 posted on 07/08/2017 10:00:00 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Right Brother
While we are inclined to sympathize with the Vet, we are only getting one side of the story. Unfortunately, this ‘service’ dog thing has gotten a bit out of hand. Way too many people now need one for BS reasons and I see dogs in restaurants, doctor’s offices, etc. If I work in a computer chip clean room, can I bring my service Vietnamese pot-belly pig to work with me? BTW, I am a total dog lover so I have no animus towards canines.

Amen! This whole "service dog" issue was bullshit from the start is now completely out of hand. I'm an infantry combat veteran and a dog lover, but the beast stays home when I go to work. I am sick and tired of hearing grown men who walked into combat whine that they can't face a SAFE and NORMAL life without their live teddy bears. Just another group of fakers sucking special benefits and "rights" from the government teat, calling attention to themselves and saying "Look at me! I'm special!" Enough!

60 posted on 07/08/2017 10:02:59 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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