Posted on 07/05/2017 8:13:16 AM PDT by MissEdie
Why would you give your kids second-hand smoke?
After the first smoker absorbs all the healthy nutrients and smoke vitamins, how could you expect “empty smoke” to be good for growing kids?????
Don’t be cheap, get them started early with healthy filtered cigs of their own! And a nice Disney World lighter to motivate them.
I can’t speak to the science just experience, growing up in the 70s and 80s, everyone in my house and my friends smoked. I was always around it. I remember hating it, even complaining about it as young as 4. My moms response was always a defensive “you’re fine.” I have no health issues as far as I know, but remembering how much it stunk caused me to never pick up the habit, though I am fond of the occasional cigar outside, never inhaling. I think second and effects are negligible, aside from the discomfort.
Ditto, same here.
With obamacare came automatic questions at the doc’s office such as do you smoke, thinking about suicide, feel safe at home etc.
And smoking related diseases were hyped as being solely caused by smoking. I quit in 1989 and have read my lungs should have fully recovered by now.
I developed shortness of breath, and my health care professionals asked if I ever smoked, and the automatic answer was COPD. I was never tested as the smoking evidence was so clear to them, and given an inhaler.
Last January my shortness of breath was so bad it brought me to my knees gasping for breath. It turned out to be heart disease. It ticks me off to think I should have been tested in the first place to sort it all out.
Even at the cardiologists office the claim was made my ischemic heart disease was related to my past smoking.
Quite frankly, I’m just sick of it. At my cardiac rehab while being worked to death on a treadmill, the nurses would take my blood oxygen level and it was always above 95%, indicating my lungs were doing a very good job, yet the doc admitting me to cardiac rehab listed in my med records “40 pack-year smoker COPD”.
It’s all over hyped by PC politics - it’s the global warming of medicine. Just more liberal crap that needs to be properly sorted out by common sense.
I apologize for the source(Slate) but the article is well documented, 3 years more recent, and not behind an adblock wall.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2017/02/secondhand_smoke_isn_t_as_bad_as_we_thought.html
A neighbor chain smoked and babysat a little boy. That was the only smoke he was around. He ended up with lung cancer while still a kid. The doctors said it was caused by the babysitter.
Smoking pot seems worse and that seems to be being pushed...I’d worry more about keeping kids off drugs
Agreed. My whole family smoked (except for me and one brother). I am probably more at risk from all the stuff I got into while exploring old abandoned buildings on the Navy bases I lived on...we used to rip the asbestos covering off pipes and throw it against the wall where they exploded into a fine powder that enveloped and completely covered us.
Another time, we found a large bottle of pure mercury (maybe three times the volume of a shot bottle) and we spent several months playing with it, pouring it on our hands, through our fingers, watching it puddle and consolidate small puddles into big ones when we poured it on the floor.
And so on. Ah well. Something is going to get you. You can eat like a health freak, never smoke, run marathons, and have a heart attack, lung cancer, or...get hit by a bus.
And you can smoke 3 packs a day and live until you are 90
But in the end, as Eddie Rickenbacker used to say, the guy with the sharp knife at the end of the stick will always get you.
With the mess that the world is in you are worried about second hand smoke??
Astonishing.
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Pure junk science. Michael Crichton wrote a fantastic article about it. The WHO study about it said no factor. Our CDC did one and it didn’t meet the statistical confidenceb level to show a danger.
So the government simply adjusted the required confidence level down so it would prove it. This made lawyers and nanny staters happy.
8n reality you’ll have stinky clothes, fire risk, less money, and maybe aggravate someone’s athsma.
Michael Fumento take on second hand smoking: http://fumento.com/smoke/
I trust this guy on any subject any time.
But you -were- talking to the receptionist in a doctor’s office. I’d get a second opinion from a clerk at Walmart. Just to be safe.
There is no such thing as “second-hand smoke related lung cancer”.
People get lung cancer without smoking or hanging around smokers. Therefore, smoking is not a 100% cause of lung cancer, but a correlation can be made.
The deaths per year supposedly related to second-hand when they were first bandied about in the early 90’s were estimated at 3,000. As a comparison, accidental falling deaths are estimated at 300,000 to 500,000 per year. and 1,300,000 deaths by car accident per year.
3,000 is a very convenient number. You will find it in practically every annual death propaganda number published. It’s just big enough to be significant and shocking, but just small enough to be practically unverifiable.
With all that said, smoking is not healthy. I have seen the effects on equipment after a 10-year coat of cigarette tar, and I’ve harvested (”cropped”) tobacco. The smoke turned light beige monitors into brown ones with a sticky layer of sludge on them, and my hands after harvesting would look like I had stirred asphalt with my hands.
Needless to say, it’s the tar in the cigarette that causes almost all of the lung problems. Nicotine per se isn’t nearly a problem, comparatively.
Your best bet is to quit smoking if you can. That doesn’t mean you’re killing anybody by smoking around them; you’re just causing yourself harm.
If you’re receiving information from your doctor, or any medical doctor, they aren’t saying it. The insurance company is.
Doctors can’t say what they want to say. They have to say what insurance regulates them to say.
That said, I just quit smoking yesterday. 25 years. I had to quit mostly because I’ve learned that I’m immortal anymore.
I have no side-effects from smoking, I smoked “only a few a day” to add up to about a pack a week. So it’s not like I was all-in on the habit.
Second hand smoke is actually the same level of danger as lead paint and radon exposure. Carcinogens from the tobacco lay on surfaces and then get picked up by the skin, where contamination is an issue.
When it comes to second hand smoke - like, being around people who are smoking - I used to live downtown in my small town. I lived on main street. The sides of my building, as well as my windows, were CAKED with smudge and exhaust particles at the end of each day. Walking the sidewalks in a small town is just as bad for you as being around a smoker who is smoking.
I actually quit because my blood pressure suddenly went insane. About 2 weeks ago my normally steady BP just jumped 60 points in each sys/dia reading. So doctors are working with me to figure out why. It turns out a single hotdog will raise my bp by 20 points. A single cigarette will raise it as well. I guess that’s just the way my body functions now.
So I had to quit for the blood pressure thing. I figure it’s a good idea anyway, successful people tend not to smoke and I should emulate their behavior more than the behavior of my smoking kin who regularly complain about BS and have go-no where lives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TrOZRHB31c
My dad smoked unfiltered Chesterfields for 50+ years.
Smoking helped kill him before he reached 70 - but I'm still ticking along towards 60 in decent shape and without any symptoms, FWIW.
https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/secondhand_smoke/health_effects/index.htm
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