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July 5, 2017 | MissEdie

Posted on 07/05/2017 8:13:16 AM PDT by MissEdie

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To: MissEdie

Back in the day I looked all this up. When the hysteria about 2nd hand smoke was going on they did a study of all the studies and there was no statistical difference for those who were exposed to 2nd hand smoke.


41 posted on 07/05/2017 9:02:20 AM PDT by tiki
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To: Williams

I’m sure but is it enough to cause cancer? What other environmental toxins are we breathing in? I know that whenever I get out of my pristine rural setting to the big city I get horrible headaches, I always attributed them to the exhaust from so many cars.


42 posted on 07/05/2017 9:04:37 AM PDT by tiki
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To: MissEdie

My parents both smoked up a disgusting storm at home and in the car. I have never smoked.

I have good health, decades later. But I do generally watch what I eat and have acted on any small anomalies in my blood tests.


43 posted on 07/05/2017 9:09:54 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: tiki
I know that whenever I get out of my pristine rural setting to the big city I get horrible headaches, I always attributed them to the exhaust from so many cars.

About the only thing in car exhaust is water vapor and CO2. (that's why the communists invented global warming to knock us down)

In the country, there is probably a lot more Oxygen due to the trees and grass, where the city has very little.

44 posted on 07/05/2017 9:12:04 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" month.)
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To: MissEdie
I grew up in a family of smokers. Out of us four kids, I was the only one who never smoked.

My father died of lung cancer at the age of 72. My mother died of lung cancer at the age of 69.

My sister (second oldest) died of lung cancer at the age of 69. She had stopped smoking five years before. My only brother (Vietnam Vet) who had stopped smoking after having a mild heart attack at the age of 48, died of a massive heart attack at the the age of 51. He hadn't taken his medication properly...thought he knew better than the doctors. My oldest sister lasted longer than anyone so far, but that's only because she had been institutionalized most of her adult life. She was an alcoholic. She died of a stroke at the age of 74.

I'm 69, and will hopefully live to be 70 next month. I have health problems: hypothyroidism, Type 2 diabetes which I treat with oral medication, hypertension, high cholesterol, acid reflux/GERD (all treated with meds), plus a connective tissue disorder that has some of the symptoms of Lupus, but not enough to be diagnosed with Lupus. So far no sign of cancer, but that doesn't mean I can't or won't contract it. Then there's always the possibility of a stroke or heart attack since those things run in my family too. Personally I think genes have a lot more to do with contracting cancer than anything else.

45 posted on 07/05/2017 9:15:57 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: vette6387
There’s a lot not to like about California today, but the almost complete lack of smokers here is not one of them.

Yeah, they're probably all tokin' up their doobies (man). And that probably will be the next big wave of indoor air pollution.

46 posted on 07/05/2017 9:16:27 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" month.)
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To: rlmorel
we found a large bottle of pure mercury

That won't hurt you, only compounds of mercury are toxic. That's yet another liberal hoax.

47 posted on 07/05/2017 9:20:38 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" month.)
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To: MissEdie

I grew up in a house full of smoke for 25 years.
My dad smoked 3 packs of Chesterfields a day.(none of those sissy filtered cigarettes for my dad.)
My mother smoked 2 packs a day.My dad died at 61 of heart disease,no doubt aggravated by smoking.Neither my brother or I took up the habit.I did have asthma as a child,but other than that, I haven’t had any major health problems.


48 posted on 07/05/2017 9:28:54 AM PDT by markoman (Nothing hard liquor and a hammer won't fix)
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To: deport

Best answer yet. I live in the vicinity of the Houston ship channel. So there is lots of fun stuff to breath in and out.


49 posted on 07/05/2017 9:32:32 AM PDT by Jaded (Pope Francis? Not really a fan... miss the last guy who recognized how Islam spread... the sword.ag)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Jerry Brown recently vetoed a bill to prohibit smoking in State Parks, presumably to avoid a loss of park use fees, so I feel free to light up my pipe on the trail when not near dry grass. Reactions I get are about 30% people spot the pipe and smile, 50% no reaction, 20% make a non approving face. One guy cut the corner of a switchback to avoid me which is irrational paranoia. They are the ambulatory psychotics who get these ridiculous paranoid laws onto the books. I call it “engineered insanity”.


50 posted on 07/05/2017 9:40:56 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui (Smarter - Faster)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

That isn’t a complete liberal hoax...like most things, a drop isn’t going to kill you immediately, and you can’t freely ingest it in unlimited quantities with no effect.

I have a degree in Chemistry, so I know that the vapor pressure of mercury is reasonably low, and mercury that has vaporized into a contained equilibrium can exceed toxic levels.

You re correct, though...in normal contact, in a room with even minimal ventilation or a breeze, the amount of mercury liberals would make people put on environmental suits for is just nutty. However, in a space where even someone walking by would create enough of a breeze to prevent achieving equilibrium and resulting toxicity.

Your point is well taken, though. You want to laugh when you read about the liberal (bureaucratic) approach to this, if someone breaks a thermometer and such...


51 posted on 07/05/2017 9:48:00 AM PDT by rlmorel (Donald Trump: Making Liberal Heads Explode 140 Characters At A Time.)
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To: MissEdie

Depends on the age of the child. Second hand smoke exposure in large amounts or constant exposure can cause asthmatic issues.


52 posted on 07/05/2017 9:51:19 AM PDT by PJBankard
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To: PJBankard
Depends on the age of the child. Second hand smoke exposure in large amounts or constant exposure can cause asthmatic issues.

Just anecdotally, would you say the prevalence of asthma, breathing difficulties and allergies in general have decreased since cigarette smoking became far less prevalent, stayed about the same, or increased since then?

I'm certainly not advocating smoking, but I ask because my own recollection as a child during the late '60's through the '70's is that there were very few kids with asthma and allergies in general, despite cigarette smoking being quite common.

53 posted on 07/05/2017 9:57:10 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: miniTAX

http://www.nfpa.org/news-and-research/fire-statistics-and-reports/fire-statistics/demographics-and-victim-patterns/fatal-effects-of-fire


54 posted on 07/05/2017 10:03:06 AM PDT by relictele
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To: MissEdie

Categorize second hand smoke with climate change.


55 posted on 07/05/2017 10:22:29 AM PDT by Pirate Ragnar (Libs put feelings first and thought second.)
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To: dirtboy
"Neither he nor I have shown any signs of lung cancer from it, and he quit 35 years ago."

On the other hand, I had a friend who died of lung cancer at 85, even though he quit smoking when he was 40. It's all in the genes.

56 posted on 07/05/2017 10:28:35 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones.)
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To: rlmorel
You want to laugh when you read about the liberal (bureaucratic) approach to this, if someone breaks a thermometer and such...

Well, in this state, the RATs virtually banned incandescent bulbs and replaced them with the highly toxic mercury-vapor gas-discharge bulb, which when burned out, is considered a hazardous waste.

Remember! Dispose of properly. (mail them to a RAT legislator)

57 posted on 07/05/2017 12:33:05 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" month.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
as a child during the late '60's through the '70's is that there were very few kids with asthma and allergies in general, despite cigarette smoking being quite common.

Didn't the "WHO" (World Health Organization-UN) sometime back, declare second hand smoke to have a health benefit, for the reasons you just mentioned. (builds up their immunity)

58 posted on 07/05/2017 12:52:39 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I don’t know, but I do distinctly recall blowing cigarette smoke into your ear as being regarded as helpful for an earache, I recall it helping me at least, whether it was psychological or what I couldn’t say being a child at the time. Sounds weird now, I know.


59 posted on 07/05/2017 12:54:56 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: norwaypinesavage

Once you get into your 80’s you’re going to get some kind of cancer, whether it’s diagnosed and fatal or not, so I wouldn’t necessarily put too much store in it having been caused by being a smoker 45 years prior. That doesn’t mean it didn’t either, constant irritation of any kind of tissue can potentially create precancerous lesions.


60 posted on 07/05/2017 12:57:49 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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