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North Korea Tested Intercontinental Ballistic Missile, U.S. Officials Believe
NBC News ^

Posted on 07/04/2017 11:32:09 AM PDT by lancium

SEOUL, South Korea — The U.S. believes North Korea fired its first intercontinental ballistic missile on Tuesday, two U.S. officials confirmed to NBC News — a significant step forward in Pyongyang's weapons program.

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This looks like stuff we already know but US now confirms two stage ICBM that could reach Alaska.
1 posted on 07/04/2017 11:32:09 AM PDT by lancium
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To: lancium

Past time for a nuclear first strike. Iran would become much more cooperative after that too.


2 posted on 07/04/2017 11:39:54 AM PDT by Hugin (ithout Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: lancium

The One U.S. Submarine That Could Completely Destroy North Korea
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/the-one-us-submarine-could-completely-destroy-north-korea-20377


3 posted on 07/04/2017 11:40:08 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: lancium

How many carriers do we have close to NK?


4 posted on 07/04/2017 11:46:50 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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Two strike groups led by the Carl Vinson and the Nimitz


5 posted on 07/04/2017 11:49:55 AM PDT by Robe (A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Hugin

South Korea draws up plan to destroy Pyongyang in case of nuclear attack
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/hoy-san-diego/


6 posted on 07/04/2017 11:50:31 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: lancium

What are we waiting for..?

does anyone seriously believe that in five or ten years this will not be a thousand percent worse..?

they’re asking for it and we’ve got The Cure.

let’s give them their medicine.


7 posted on 07/04/2017 11:51:18 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: lancium

We’ve been hearing this crap for 10 years but Kimmy’s being froggy doing it today.

I bet SK blows half this crap up jacking the telemetry.


8 posted on 07/04/2017 11:53:18 AM PDT by mylife (the roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Hugin

Iran and NK have been in league on missiles for a decade or more.
China and the late Venezuela.


9 posted on 07/04/2017 11:54:56 AM PDT by mylife (the roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: gaijin

Clinton, Bush, and Obama believed it and it is not their problem. Sarc/


10 posted on 07/04/2017 11:56:02 AM PDT by dhs12345
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Hugo's dreams never came true ☺
11 posted on 07/04/2017 11:56:51 AM PDT by mylife (the roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: dhs12345

And Truman canned MacArthur for wanting to win the war


12 posted on 07/04/2017 12:00:18 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Robe

Isn’t one more carrier strike group on the way?


13 posted on 07/04/2017 12:01:26 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: gaijin

We didn’t shoot it down. Why not?


14 posted on 07/04/2017 12:07:57 PM PDT by sportscaster ("LET'S ROLL")
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To: gaijin
It's coming.

It's just that a mission this large takes a lot of planning and coordination with allies and with China and Russia.

Here's what Stratfor (Jan 2017) has to say on the subject:

North Korea is powerless to prevent a U.S. strike on its nuclear program, but retaliation is well within its means. The significant military capability that North Korea has built up against South Korea is not advanced by Western standards, but there are practical ways Pyongyang could respond to aggression.

The North Korean military's most powerful tool is artillery. It cannot level Seoul as some reports have claimed, but it could do significant damage. Pyongyang risks deteriorating its forces by exposing them to return fire, however, which significantly restricts their use. Less conventional methods of retaliation, such as sabotage or cyber warfare, are less risky but also limit the shock that North Korea would desire.

After a strike, North Korea's most immediate and expected method of retaliation would center around conventional artillery. Many of the North's indirect fire systems are already located on or near the border with South Korea. By virtue of proximity and simplicity, these systems have a lower preparatory and response times than air assets, larger ballistic missiles or naval assets. Nevertheless, there are several critical limitations to their effectiveness.

Tube and Rocket Artillery

The biggest anticipated cost of a North Korean artillery barrage in response to an attack would be the at least partial destruction of Seoul. But the volume of fire that the North can direct against the South Korean capital is limited by some important factors. Of the vast artillery force deployed by the North along the border, only a small portion — Koksan 170-mm self-propelled guns, as well as 240-mm and 300-mm multiple launch rocket systems — are capable of actually reaching Seoul. Broadly speaking, the bulk of Pyongyang's artillery can reach only into the northern border area of South Korea or the northern outskirts of Seoul.

All forms of North Korean artillery have problems with volume and effectiveness of fire, but those issues are often more pronounced for the longer-range systems. Problems include the high malfunction rate of indigenous ammunition, poorly trained artillery crews, and a reluctance to expend critical artillery assets by exposing their positions.

BTW, a great deal of the planning has to do with what happens to North Korea after the fall of Kim.
15 posted on 07/04/2017 12:07:58 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: sportscaster

And it flew 600 mikes.


16 posted on 07/04/2017 12:13:53 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Bkmrk.


17 posted on 07/04/2017 12:14:17 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: gaijin

Good idea. I’m sure the South Koreans would love to be irradiated. Who knows, maybe there would be enough extra to give Japan a dose too.


18 posted on 07/04/2017 12:18:13 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine, is mine.)
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To: lancium

They should plan on how they can capture Little Fatty the Turd and provide wide television coverage of his execution by anti-aircraft gun or maybe flame thrower.


19 posted on 07/04/2017 12:22:01 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: lancium

Sooner or later the Phat little Effers crew is gonna figure it out. And then...


20 posted on 07/04/2017 12:24:05 PM PDT by crz
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