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Folks need to end the denial and deal with the addiction.
1 posted on 06/27/2017 6:09:30 AM PDT by Mariner
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I’m confused.

Someone please enlighten me as to how a ^mental illness^ cause pain severe enough for an opiod. Thanks.


2 posted on 06/27/2017 6:14:21 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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1) And just WHO is paying for this ? You and me.

2) And who is profiting ? aka Drug Cos.


6 posted on 06/27/2017 6:30:57 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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PTSD is a mental disorder. Most soldiers who experience PTSD also have extreme back pain. That is the reason that the stellate ganglion injections used to block the pain also block PTSD symptoms.


9 posted on 06/27/2017 6:40:52 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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Hello, Veterans Administration!!!

““It actually turns out … that the best treatment for chronic pain is going to be behavioral interventions, not medications,” he explained. That involves teaching people to understand the underlying cause of their pain and skills to better cope with it, the psychiatrist said.

“Sites said alternatives to opioids could include cognitive behavioral therapy, acupuncture, meditation techniques [does that include Bible study?] and physical therapy.”


10 posted on 06/27/2017 6:42:00 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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One thought in the opposite direction. Folks who have real pain chronically, from some underlying problem that can’t be resolved, will in many cases become depressed from the chronic pain. The depression could then be counted as a mental illness although the arrow of causality would be reversed. I have no idea as to the relative size of the population with pre-existing mental illness who develop chronic pain vs. the size of the population initially without mental illness who develop chronic pain and secondarily develop mental illness. But both deserve to be considered. We want to minimize folks getting unintentionally hooked on narcotics, minimize suffering in folks with real pain for which narcotics are often the most effective treatment and also minimize recreational narcotic usage, all at the same time.


12 posted on 06/27/2017 6:52:03 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Waiting for the tweets to hatch!)
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Remember when simply stating the truth got folks sent to the gulags...

Back in the U.S.S.
Back in the U.S.S.
Back in the U.S.S.R.?

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/defense/295484-va-is-restricting-veterans-gun-rights-without-due-process

Perhaps opioids are a self-medication of last resort after being “treated”/tortured as a cash-cow for the profit of the pharmasurrance syndicate.


14 posted on 06/27/2017 6:55:51 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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“It actually turns out … that the best treatment for chronic pain is going to be behavioral interventions, not medications”

The best treatment is to address the underlying cause of the pain. Sometimes (often?), this is beyond the analytical skills of the doctor in charge of treatment. Laziness or lack of competence would lead them to paint over the problem with painkillers, or assert that the pain is imaginary.


15 posted on 06/27/2017 6:57:36 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (rightwingcrazy)
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Could opioid addiction wipe out the Democrat party?


19 posted on 06/27/2017 7:06:32 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Baizuo" A derogatory term the Chinese are using to describe America's naive "White Left")
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“It actually turns out … that the best treatment for chronic pain is going to be behavioral interventions, not medications,” he explained. That involves teaching people to understand the underlying cause of their pain and skills to better cope with it, the psychiatrist said.

Sites said alternatives to opioids could include cognitive behavioral therapy, acupuncture, meditation techniques and physical therapy.

So a psychiatrist said that chronic pain is all in our heads. What a surprise, someone with a hammer finds the all problems are nails. I hope that Sites never has a back injury, arthritis or other medical condition causing chronic pain because I doubt his new age treatment will be much help.

I avoid opiates like the plague for my herniated disc, but I certainly understand why people turn to them. The societal problem with prescription opiates is that doctors too readily prescribe them, and then the government intervenes to "save us from addiction" by restricting access to prescription opiates, forcing people to turn to illegal heroin for pain relief and to cope with withdrawal.

23 posted on 06/27/2017 7:51:25 AM PDT by nuke_road_warrior (Making the world safe for nuclear power for over 20 years)
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