Posted on 06/27/2017 2:29:55 AM PDT by Libloather
True, but not really contextually relevant for this discussion. Middle GA recently had a number of OD deaths due to some new street drug which turned out to be a super powerful fentanyl analog. In spite of massive warnings about the drug and an accurate description of the pills people continued to OD on it with a total of 9 deaths in the course of about two weeks as I recall. Is this a disaster or is it just idiots wanting to get high and not worrying about the consequences?
And death to the poor and homeless too.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2006-12-21/news/TEENBRAINS21_1_brain-pruning-cells
Read this, then imagine what happens if you do drugs while all this is going on!
See response 13 where the use of the word inconvenience was used and which I incorporated into my response.
Yes the taxpayers are on the hook, and limitation on medical resources is always an issue. And I am concerned about these as well. I don’t mean to be flippant here, but no one schedules their own emergency. Unrealistically when my emergency happens, it is when all the best doctors are waiting for me to show up and no one else is in ER needing treatment. But if there are other ER cases then someone who doesn’t know me gets to decide that I am more worthy than someone else. Triage goes out the door, or pushed to its limits. Your limited resource scenario could happen even if there are no drug overdoses in ER when I show up.
The addicts to which you refer (needing taxpayer $) have no money / no insurance so their willingness pay is not possible, therefore that line of argument means they get no treatment. That’s tougher than tough love in my book. I am not ready to sign on to this position.
Rogers quote:
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. And what one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government can't give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
These haven’t been simply prescribed do high chronic pain.. And the fact their addiction likelihood was lied about for decades no research in othe options ever surfaced just efforts to find even more patentable derivatives of them.
These should have never been mainstream first choice drugs.. The companies who lied to get them legal and lied about their safety should be drawn and quartered.
“Emotional maturation stops when drug use starts”
Arrested development
“Emotional maturation stops when drug use starts”
Arrested development
We see that maxim confirmed on thread after thread here.
I think there are different kinds of people and different roots of addiction.
There's the rich movie star with an addictive personality and doctors who will do whatever that want, and there's the ghetto loser who will get addicted to whatever happens to be available. Then there's all sorts of types in between.
I don't think there's a one size fits all solution big government can use to deal with all types effectively.
I do think that we can't force someone to not be an addict... they have to want to stop. If they hurt society (stealing, etc.) they need to be punished like anyone else... coddling people because they're an addict is the wrong way to go.
This town has the right ideal. And I have heard talk of legalizing drugs. Fine, but no medical treatment for OD’s. You want to play Russian Roulette with drugs by all means do so, but don’t expect the community to save you over and over.
The media is going to tell you it’s Oxy. That’s what gets “the nice” addicts. They move on to heroin because it’s plentiful and cheap.
The rest of the crowd skips the oxy and goes right to smack.
That explains a lot about teens...and makes it easier to understand how drugs can cause you to get mentally stuck at the age you start using.
All sorts of things going on in the brain at the very age many start at least experimenting with drugs or drinking. Not good.
When I’m on my deathbed (a nice comfortable bed because I pay for health insurance) I’m going to send the Courier to get me some heroin so I can see what all the fuss is about.
Do note than the troops in Afghanistan are there to keep the spice flowing. Ask any low-ranking veteran - officers won’t always say.
/s for the folks with the “let em die” mentality.
I have taken both. Off label for my nerve pain in my thigh. Neither worked. The Neurontin caused edema in my feet and legs and might have raised my A1C back to what it had been before 6 months of Metformin. No withdrawal issues. Took for one month and then placed on Topamax for one month. Don’t even want to get into what that drug from hell did to me then and still to this day six years after I took the first pill.
The Cymbalta is known for withdrawal issues. Do a search on Brain zaps and you will find Cymbalta is one cause. You have to be slowly knocked down on the dosage. May not be addictive but is hell when you don’t get weened off slowly.
I didn’t have that option. I had a bad UTI that started a week before Christmas 2014. The Monday before is when the fever, chills and I couldn’t even keep water down started. I took my Cymbalta but it didn’t have time to work.
The next day is when I had a pinball game going on in my brain. I had a massive headache, my balance was off and I had amplified hearing. When I sat up the zaps would travel down my spine and when I stood up they ended at the back of my knees.
Prior to this I had a few side effects. The most disturbing was the one nightmare/hallucination I had about my Golden that had died 3 years before.
I was given these drugs off label because “some” people had relief from their pain. Just so they didn’t have to prescribe pain killers to me. I still suffer from the pain I had, plus more nerve issues, destroyed taste buds, memory and concentration problems and my brain doesn’t work the way it used to over 7 years ago when I ended up in the hospital that first time.
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