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FACT CHECK: Is Left-Wing Violence Rising? (no per NPR)
NPR ^ | June 16 '17

Posted on 06/16/2017 5:02:36 PM PDT by Drango

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To: Drango
All you need to do is get one of those label makers and when some nutbag pops off and kills people, just make a label to fit your agena and apply it next to the murder's name.

All those murders in Chicago are due to organized, Right Wing extremists, dontcha know?

21 posted on 06/16/2017 5:36:56 PM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Drango

What a fat liar. I thought we were going to pull the funding for NPR.


22 posted on 06/16/2017 5:42:25 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them.)
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To: Drango

It’s always been high.


23 posted on 06/16/2017 5:42:32 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Drango

YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK


24 posted on 06/16/2017 5:49:11 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Drango

He is probaly using leftwing “facts”.

If a white man kills gay people yelling Alluha Akbar, that is right wing.

If a black man kills white people yelling F*ck Whitey, that is right wing.

If a crazy man with leftist roots kills people in a mass attack, that is right wing.

Normal people would consider the above Muslim (allied with the left), left wing, and crazy.


25 posted on 06/16/2017 5:52:30 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Drango

So, all those gang-bangers killing people in Chicago and Baltimore and Detroit are Republicans?

Sure, I’ll buy that.


26 posted on 06/16/2017 5:54:36 PM PDT by doragsda
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To: Drango

They also include “faschists” as “right wing”. Fascists are left wing.


27 posted on 06/16/2017 5:58:36 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Drango
"The far left is very active in the United States, but it hasn't been particularly violent for some time," says Mark Pitcavage, a senior research fellow at the Anti-Defamation League's Center on Extremism.

Having been threatened by union thugs, I would disagree. I've met several other decent people who had the same experience with Teamsters, AFL/CIO, SEIU, and their fellow violent socialists. The difference is that the Ctrl-Left supports union violence, Antifa violence, and other leftist violence. The only violence I support is in self defense. Unfortunately, I expect a lot of violence that I will approve of. The thugs are still denying the reality that they lost on Election Day, and they refuse to back down.

28 posted on 06/16/2017 6:01:00 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Drango
right-wing extremists are responsible for about 74 percent of those murders,

Name ONE, Pitcavage.

29 posted on 06/16/2017 6:01:38 PM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: madison10

In the diseased minds of the liberal left Trump made them commit their violence so the right is actually to blame.


30 posted on 06/16/2017 6:02:44 PM PDT by nhbob1
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To: Drango
Quelle surprise. The left reports that the left is non-violent. They'd be crazy to admit the opposite.
31 posted on 06/16/2017 6:03:55 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Drango

He is probably going off of this list from wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism

It is for the last 16 years, not 10.

It includes the planned parenthood shooting in Colorado Springs, where the shooter was ruled mentally incompetent.

It includes the 2017 Portland train attack (Bernie Supporter)

It includes Eric Frein as right wing, a Serbian reinactor.

Not much political philosophy at all.

Includes the suicide plane attack on the IRS as right wing, when the attacker approved of communism and disliked capitalism Should be moved to left wing.

In addition the left-wing extremist murder lists seems to ignore black murders of whites using leftist doctrine for their hate crimes.


32 posted on 06/16/2017 6:27:50 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Drango
It's a well-known and long-held sentiment by many of us that anyone even remotely associated with the taxpayer-funded NPR propaganda machine should be Antifa'd into the pavement. That ganja-smoking, group hug gaggle of neo-Socialist Utopians are the choking smog of the FM airwaves. It's bad enough that the Infernal Revenue Service take a bite out of my ass every April 15th, no matter how I tweak my taxes. But the thought that these Generation Zero fairies are one of the parasites taking it from me makes me retch.


33 posted on 06/16/2017 7:08:25 PM PDT by Viking2002 ("If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck." - John Steinbeck)
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To: Drango

>Antifa rarely talk to reporters and rarely give their names, at least not while wearing masks.

Antifa regually attacks and beats anyone who films them so the press never gets close enough to interview them. The press lies all the time.


34 posted on 06/16/2017 7:12:04 PM PDT by JohnyBoy
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To: Drango
No, it's not rising, because all violence is already committed by liberals and the national crime rate hasn't increased from its 0bama highs under Trump.
35 posted on 06/16/2017 7:13:31 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Moonman62

exactly. they’re notoriously violent throughout history. socialists, Marxists, communists etc.


36 posted on 06/16/2017 7:25:56 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Drango

Yes, it is. And they know it.


37 posted on 06/16/2017 7:48:09 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Fedora

Let’s do some math. Left Wing Extremists = 24% and Communists = 5% so that’s 29% (or nearly 1/3rd of all violent offenders/terrorist acts on the chart (that are directly atributed to them).

If you leave the classification of “Jewish” and “Islamic Extremists” as individual groupings, then they account for 7% and 6% of terroristic acts. However, Jewish “terrorists”, I’m thinking the idiots from the extreme wing of the JDL, didn’t kill anyone that I can remember with one possible exception, I think in either NY or NJ.

Islamic Extremists (only 6% of the acts out of 100% on this chart) killed and wounded dozens, if not scores. Don’t know if this includes the 3,000 dead on 9/11 and thousands of others wounded (only a few injured as a result of the acts of terrorism - i.e. falling down the stairs while fleeing the buildings) that day.

If you add in 2016 and 2017, the body count for San Bernadino and the Pulse Night Club in Florida would be about 50 dead and many wounded. THIS CHART DEFINITELY NEEDS AN UPDATE WHICH THE FBI SHOULD HAVE ALREADY HAD POSTED/.

The 42% for “Latinos” has me puzzled. Will have to look at the report to see what they categorize of Latino terrorist incidents (Maybe La Raza riots, etc?).

Now, that guy “Others” is in for 16%. As Clevon Little once asked “Where the white extremists at”? KKK, individual white racists, Aryan Nation, the David Puke clan, independent “Skinhead” hate groups - very likely a majority of the perpetrators; mentally ill white people who hate everybody but esp. blacks and foreigners, etc.

OK That would explain a lot but the chart should have had a “Killed/Wounded” count for each slice of the terrorism pie.

Meanwhile, Clevon Little is also asking “Where the black terrorists at”? In “Others”? If you got “Jews, Hispanics, Islamic terrorists, why not “Black Extremists” included in the bunch? To leave them out would be racial discrimination (OK some black terrorists were also COMMUNIST TERRORISTS. Picky, picky, picky. Just give them a “double billing” to avoid any confusion.

The FBI is not like the old one of Hoover where statistics were done by FBI agents who were accountants. Go look up the old FBI Annual Reports to see what I mean. J. Edgar was big on stats, esp. before Congress and the media. You got the information you wanted to know.

Missing unless you count Native Americans as “Others”, are members of radical Indian groups including (in the 1980 era) members of the Marxist/Cuban oriented American Indian Movement (AIM).

For those who are interested in AIM’s violence try to find online:
“Revolutionary Activities Within the United States: The American Indian Movement”, hearings, Senate Internal Security Subcommittee, Sen. Judiciary Committee, 94th Congress, 2nd Session, April 6, 1976, 221 pp. and the report “Revolutionary Activities Within the United States: The American Indian Movement”, Report, SISS, 94th Congress, 2nd Session, September 1976 , 44 pp

I suspect that the “Communists” 5% were the reformatted Weather Underground Organization (WUO) that became part of the May 19th Communist Organization of the Nyack, NY Brinks truck robbery and killing of two Nyack police officers and a Brinks guard; aided by former Black Panther Party members in the deadly successor “Black Liberation Army” (BLA) and some members of the Communist/Cuban-oriented “Republic of New Africa” (RNA). This grouping included WUO leader Kathy Boudin and others (some of whom were pardoned by Pres. Clinton, who never met a communist terrorist he didn’t like).

HEY FEDORA, How am I doing?

With the Democrat Party/Communist Party’s successful efforts to destroy the House Internal Security Committee, the Senate Internal Security Subcomm., the Internal Security Division of the Dept. of Justice, the Subversive Activities Control Board, and state/local police intelligence units/divisions, the public was deliberately deprived of information by govt agencies (on the whole) about domestic and foreign-supported extremist terrorism in the US (Libya Qaddafi had killing operations here; so did the PLO and possibly the PFLP; Iran did the Ali Tabatibai hit and probably the killing of Israel Military Attache Moshe Allon, both in the DC area; there may have been a few KGB hits; Castro killings; and maybe a Sikh killing).

These might be included in the “Others 16%” slice of the terrorism pie, but I thought that I would, just off the top of my head, plus the govt hearings/reports in front of me, do a recap of possible “Others” from the Communist and Islamic movements/organizations.

Otherwise Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?


38 posted on 06/16/2017 9:02:54 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Drango

Why the F, is my tax dollars subsidizing npr and their left propaganda?


39 posted on 06/17/2017 2:27:30 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (President Trump makes obammy look like the punk he is.)
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To: Chgogal

“I’d like to see his list.”

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From wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Pitcavage

“The Militia Watchdog website was founded by Pitcavage in 1995 following the Oklahoma City bombing and operated until 2000. The site’s subscription list, which mainly included law enforcement officers and other “watchdog” groups, is still being used by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL). The site also worked in cooperation with other “watchdog” groups such as The Center for New Community, The Center for Democratic Renewal, the Southern Poverty Law Center[3] and the Simon Wiesenthal Center.”


40 posted on 06/17/2017 1:18:55 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Why defend the EU?)
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