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FACT CHECK: Is Left-Wing Violence Rising? (no per NPR)
NPR ^ | June 16 '17

Posted on 06/16/2017 5:02:36 PM PDT by Drango

Some conservatives have seized on Wednesday's shooting of Republican Rep. Steve Scalise and three others as the latest example of what they see as rising political violence from the left. Fox News' Sean Hannity accused Democrats of "dehumanizing" Republicans, and the right-leaning Washington Times ran an editorial by a Tea Party activist that called leftist protests "the first skirmishes of the second American civil war."

But those who track extremism say that while there are a few far-left groups that raise red flags, their numbers remain small.

Much of the conservatives' anger has been aimed at "Antifa" — short for "anti-fascists." Antifa are loosely affiliated groups of mostly young people, mainly on the West Coast but spreading around the country.

They dress in black and wear masks when they confront right-wing groups; in the past few months there have been clashes or confrontations in Berkeley, Calif.; Portland, Ore.; and, just this week, on the campus of Evergreen State College, in Olympia, Wash.

Portland police officers show a steel crowbar and pipes — weapons they seized from the Antifa-controlled zone during counterprotests in Portland, Ore., earlier this month. Martin Kaste/NPR "The moment we got here, they started throwing rocks," says Joe Allen, one of the right-wing protesters who descended on the college Thursday to challenge what they see as its leftist ideology. They were met by a large number of the masked, black-clad counterprotesters. Allen says the Antifa have been harassing Trump supporters since Election Day.

"That night we went to downtown Portland to see what everything was like, and we got stuck on the bridge because [the Antifa were] stopping all traffic, hitting cars, jumping on cars, asking people, 'Who did you vote for?' "

A heavy presence of police in riot gear kept the confrontation at Evergreen State from escalating. The leader of the conservative protesters and the "Patriot Prayer" movement, Joey Gibson, was slightly injured — he said someone threw a can at his head. He later found his tires slashed. Witnesses say masked counterprotesters did it.

Antifa rarely talk to reporters and rarely give their names, at least not while wearing masks. But in online discussions they say the far-right activists are being disingenuous. They point to what they regard as the racism and white supremacist ideology of the other side. They say groups such as Gibson's only pretend to be interested in peaceful political protest and would attack minorities or leftists, given the chance.

Most Mass Shootings Are Smaller, Domestic Tragedies U.S. Most Mass Shootings Are Smaller, Domestic Tragedies "People are desperate," says one masked counterprotester, a student at Evergreen State who gave his name as Felix. "They see the government turning back to regressive Reaganomics and racist undertones and rhetoric, so once they start kicking 25 million people off health care, then you're going to start seeing riots."

The idea that some on the far left are openly condoning violence is a red flag for extremist group monitors.

"This is a dangerous game; people are going to die. No one's died yet, but it's just a matter of time," says J.J. McNabb, an expert on political extremism at George Washington University.

McNabb says white supremacists and neo-Nazis are widely condemned — and deservedly — for their violent tendencies. But she says the Antifa shouldn't get a pass on their violence just because they oppose white supremacists.

"These guys are odious, [but] attack them with words. Don't come in with sticks and nails in them," she says.

Antifa are not new. They're a latter-day version of the anarchists and "black bloc" groups who, over the years, have often challenged police and broken windows during May Day protests in Seattle and Portland. Their membership is hard to track, but it appears to be expanding beyond the West Coast. They are also embracing other leftist causes beyond just fighting white supremacists.

What We Know About The Suspect In GOP Baseball Practice Shooting THE TWO-WAY What We Know About The Suspect In GOP Baseball Practice Shooting Still, their numbers are tiny in relation to the mainstream political left. And, say experts, it's misleading for right-wing groups to suggest that the Antifa are more violent than right-wing extremists.

"The far left is very active in the United States, but it hasn't been particularly violent for some time," says Mark Pitcavage, a senior research fellow at the Anti-Defamation League's Center on Extremism.

He says the numbers between the groups don't compare.

"In the past 10 years when you look at murders committed by domestic extremists in the United States of all types, right-wing extremists are responsible for about 74 percent of those murders," Pitcavage says.

You have to go back to the 1970s to find the last big cycle of far-left extremism in the U.S. Both Pitcavage and McNabb say we have been in a predominantly far-right extremist cycle since the 1990s — the abortion clinic bombings and Oklahoma City, for example. And, more recently, racially motivated attacks such as the one at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, the mass shooting at a black church in Charleston, S.C., and last month's stabbings on a commuter train in Portland.

Still, Pitcavage says Wednesday's shooting attack on Republican members of Congress is a warning sign. He is especially concerned because the shooter apparently was not particularly extreme in his political ideas; his views were seemingly in the mainstream left.

"One act does not a trend make," Pitcavage wrote after the shooting attack. "But I am concerned that, in this highly polarized and divided society, more people who have stances that fall within the mainstream, on the left and right alike, may consider political violence an attractive option."

Domestic terrorism experts say that concern is only heightened by the fact that the line between what's considered mainstream and what's considered fringe is becoming increasingly blurred.


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"In the past 10 years when you look at murders committed by domestic extremists in the United States of all types, right-wing extremists are responsible for about 74 percent of those murders," Pitcavage says.
1 posted on 06/16/2017 5:02:36 PM PDT by Drango
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To: Drango

That’s an outrageous untruth!


2 posted on 06/16/2017 5:04:02 PM PDT by madison10 (My language has gotten 10 times worse since June 14 2017.)
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To: Drango

In other news, wolverines kill more people in the USA than cancer.


3 posted on 06/16/2017 5:08:26 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Islam: You have to just love a "religion" based on rape and sex slavery.)
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To: Drango

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CywFbSdMVx0

Antifa John Brown gun club range day.

Funny how NPR doesn’t mention that although they would for a group on the right.


4 posted on 06/16/2017 5:09:07 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Drango

5 posted on 06/16/2017 5:09:07 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Drango

NPR? Isn’t that the outfit that fired Juan Williams because he’s too far right for them?


6 posted on 06/16/2017 5:09:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (Investigate the Awan brothers and Wasserman Schultz)
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To: Drango

Those Left-wing thugs can lie to themselves all they want and I don’t give a rip because I know in this country political violence comes from Left. The unwashed Left and the elitist Left. Quite the combination.


7 posted on 06/16/2017 5:10:04 PM PDT by onyx (Donate Monthly ~ Join 300 Club!)
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To: Drango

I’d like to see his list.


8 posted on 06/16/2017 5:10:34 PM PDT by Chgogal (I will NOT submit, therefore, Jihadists hate me.)
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To: Drango

We are paying to be told not to notice active shooters?


9 posted on 06/16/2017 5:11:38 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: madison10

FACT CHECK: Is Left-Wing Violence Rising? (no per left-wing)


10 posted on 06/16/2017 5:16:18 PM PDT by RonnG ( v)
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To: Drango
Let me guess: the ADL and SPLC don't see any problem.
11 posted on 06/16/2017 5:16:40 PM PDT by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: Drango

If one cut off the top of the head of an ape and boiled the brain down to the size of a pea, you would have a typical NPR listener.


12 posted on 06/16/2017 5:17:49 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Drango

It’s not rising. They’ve always been violent.


13 posted on 06/16/2017 5:20:01 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: RonnG

Exactly.


14 posted on 06/16/2017 5:20:19 PM PDT by madison10 (My language has gotten 10 times worse since June 14 2017.)
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To: Drango

“Much of the conservatives’ anger has been aimed at “Antifa””

For an article about democrat violence, it only took NPR to the beginning of the third paragraph to blame conservatives.


15 posted on 06/16/2017 5:20:30 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: The Toll
We are paying to be told not to notice active shooters?

Didn't you know?

Muslim terrorists are RIGHT WING!

16 posted on 06/16/2017 5:21:27 PM PDT by seowulf
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To: Drango; piasa; MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
I'd have to see their data from the past 10 years, but here's the FBI's summary of the data from 1980 to 2005 (see this link for a breakdown of individual incidents), as graphically represented in a pie chart put together by left-wingers who were trying to show that not all terrorists are Muslim (so I'm using their own chart against them lol); this chart does not include anything since 2005:

Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI Database

17 posted on 06/16/2017 5:25:31 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Drango

NPR = National Propaganda Radio

It needed to be defunded NOW !


18 posted on 06/16/2017 5:31:21 PM PDT by ghostkatz (catslivesmatter....all 9 of them)
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To: Fedora

PS: If you look at the original FBI data the pie chart is based on, a lot of the attacks in the “extreme left wing groups” category were by ecoterrorists such as the Earth Liberation Front. They’re also counting “Latino” attacks as a separate category, but many of these could be classified as left-wing as well.


19 posted on 06/16/2017 5:31:25 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Drango

Is he including the Black Lives Matter police assassinations in the past year? There were 8, as I recall.

I bet he does not include them.


20 posted on 06/16/2017 5:33:52 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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