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Republicans are predicting the beginning of the end of the tea party in Kansas
Washington post ^ | June 9th 2017 | Ana Swanson and Max Ehrenfreund

Posted on 06/11/2017 7:11:28 AM PDT by Ennis85

OVERLAND PARK, Kan. – Kansas was at the heart of the tea party revolution, a red state where, six years ago, a deeply conservative group of Republicans took the state for a hard right turn. Now, after their policies failed to produce the results GOP politicians promised, the state has become host to another revolution: a resurgence of moderate Republicans.

Moderate Republicans joined with Democrats this week to raise state taxes, overriding GOP Gov. Sam Brownback’s veto and repudiating the conservative governor’s platform of ongoing tax cuts. The vote was a demonstration of the moderates’ newfound clout in the state Republican Party. Brownback was unable to successfully block the bill because many of the die-hard tax cut proponents had either retired or been voted out of office, losing to more centrist candidates in GOP primaries.

“The citizens of Kansas have said ‘It’s not working. We don’t like it.’ And they’ve elected new people.” said Sheila Frahm, a centrist Republican who served as lieutenant governor of Kansas and briefly as a U.S. senator.

Kansas’s moderate ascendance may portend problems for Republicans in Washington, where many in the party, including President Trump, are pushing to adopt federal tax policies similar to the ones Brownback has installed in Kansas. But while Brownback had hoped what he called Kansas’s “real-live experiment” in conservative economic policy would become a national model, it has instead become a cautionary example.

Brownback and his promised tax cuts were expected to spur enough economic growth to keep the government well funded, but when that economic boom never materialized, state lawmakers faced perennial deficits and had to implement spending reductions to close the gap. And when they did, some lawmakers found that while promising to cut spending plays well during a campaign, the subsequent loss of public services often proves-

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: fakenews; kansas; party; republican; tea
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To: bigbob

That pretty boy Secretary of State will hopefully run for Gov. The rest of us can’t worry about red Kansas when there are midwest states to concentrate on. The fact that he could be Governor(+ a national star) will hopefully keep the state in line. Senate seats are the must-win. That chrome dome Roberts doesn’t help much.


21 posted on 06/11/2017 7:48:45 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Ennis85

Raising taxes. Now there’s a winning issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eowwp6bkpo0


22 posted on 06/11/2017 7:49:48 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: KC_Lion

I wish the jack wagons in the Kansas statehouse would find a way to get the cost of our vehicle registrations in line with the other states too. Kansas is a high tax state. That’s their solution to everything.


23 posted on 06/11/2017 8:08:08 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: Ennis85

How many times are we gonna hear this crap? No the Tea party is not out protesting. That is because they are running and winning state and local offices.


24 posted on 06/11/2017 8:32:50 AM PDT by Cyclops08
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To: KC_Lion

I wanted to find some perspective...to see just how huge this ‘revenue shortfall’ was. Its always listed in tens of millions of dollars, if not hundreds of millions. But that’s the shortfall against spending...I wanna know about REVENUE. That, suspiciously, is hard to find a news story about. So I found some info from the KS budget office, and here’s our total tax collections 2011-2016 (tax cuts were implemented in 2012):

2011 $8.17 Billion

2012 $8.75 Billion

2013 $8.91 Billion

2014 $8.47 Billion

2015 $8.54 Billion

2016 $8.67 Billion

Fairly flat

Next I looked at out population change, and from 2010 to 2016, its been a 1.9% increase.

If you look at 2011 vs 2016, we’ve actually had a 6% revenue increase vs a 1.9% increase. To be fair, we are down 2.7% from the 2013 high water mark.

But, the bottom line is, all this chaos, all this ‘the sky is falling’, ‘the state is broke’, the local headline ‘Rescuing Kansas from Brownback’, or from a few days ago ‘There’s no end in sight for Kansas’ Budget Misery’...its all about single digit percentage points. We’re spending almost $9 Billion a year, and we can’t figure out how to live on a few percentage points less?

The Kansas experiment (media’s term, not mine) will forevermore be held up as a cautionary tale against raising taxes by the left...but its really a cautionary tale about our addiction to spending.


25 posted on 06/11/2017 9:14:46 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: God luvs America

That tea party rally was 9/12/2009, I was there along with almost 2 million other people.


26 posted on 06/11/2017 9:41:59 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Ennis85

The establishment empire strikes back.


27 posted on 06/11/2017 10:13:15 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Baizuo" A derogatory term the Chinese are using to describe America's naive "White Left")
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To: Ennis85

It’s not surprising that GOPe is teaming with the rats. They have been Fabian rats the whole time. Question is, how do we send enough based reps up there to drive out GOPe leadership. Same thing in Washington.


28 posted on 06/11/2017 10:31:27 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I call Obama "osama" because he damaged us far more than Osama bin Ladin ever did.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

If only that group had had the means to march to the capitol and the White House and stayed, how different things might have been. Instead it was the high water mark of Glenn Beck.


29 posted on 06/11/2017 10:47:02 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I call Obama "osama" because he damaged us far more than Osama bin Ladin ever did.)
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To: Ennis85

Funny, we just had a Tea Party meeting last Friday. Wishful thinking on the part of leftists Ana Swanson and Max Ehrenfreund.


30 posted on 06/11/2017 12:12:50 PM PDT by orinoco (Orinoco)
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To: Dick Vomer
Perfectly delighted to name names! My state rep (also my neighbor) Melissa Rooker, a proud RINO and my state senator is Barbara Bollier, super proud super RINO!

Both women are proud pro-abortiinists, pro-sodimites RINOs, who would make Nancy Pelosi feel right at home!!!

31 posted on 06/11/2017 12:26:01 PM PDT by zerosix ( Native Sunflower)
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To: dowcaet

Moderate Republicans are the Democrat party, they are just 30 years behind the curve.


32 posted on 06/11/2017 12:58:00 PM PDT by PTBAA
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To: KC_Lion
Unfortunately, this right/left tug of war in KS has been going on for decades!

I know because I've been in there fighting against the RINOs before we dreamed up the word.

The main fighting word is as it has always been about one word - abortion (really Christ, isn't it.)

Used to be mostly heavily funded by, if not totally supported by one man, the late, late term abortionist George Tiller, who, before his death, bought each and every elected Kansan, local, state and national except two and Sam Brownback is one of those.

Now that Tiller has "left the building," Planned Parenthood, NARAL and every other abortion champion have picked up that funding gap, along with the so-called "Human Rights(read pro-sodomite)," anti-gun, anti-school,choice, you name the left group, they fund them for RINOs seeking office in KS!

The Shelia Frahm mentioned in the article, was the lib Sam Brownback took on in the primary for US Senator from Kansas in 1994. We fought back hard against the Tiller abortion-backed RINOs (I say "we" as I worked full time for Sam in that race and the general election.

One thing missed by most people when looking at or talking about politics, especially in KS, is that our harder fought, better financed races are NOT in the general elections against the dims but in the primaries in August against other Republicans (that would be RINOs) when most libs are either away on vacations or otherwise ignoring. That's why they pushed "Advanced Voting," ideal to libs of all stripes who don't want to go to the polls or electioneer in Kansas not summers, plus it's much easier to permit illegal and fraudulent voting!

Nope, the TEA Party isn't dead, at least not in KS, it encumbers at least three groups = pro-life, social conservatives, the pro-second amendment proponents, the pro-school, home schoolers, all of whom hate raising taxes!

One of our funding champs were the Koch Brothers, who are against controlling our borders, thus no longer supporting many of us. Too bad but we all want illegals out of our state and support that effort.

33 posted on 06/11/2017 1:12:28 PM PDT by zerosix ( Native Sunflower)
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To: zerosix
Thank You for the insight Zerosix.

I know you are very active in Kansas politics, for which I am very thankful :)

All I know is that is the cost of living is going to increase exponentially here.

34 posted on 06/11/2017 1:18:15 PM PDT by KC_Lion (If you want on First Lady Melania's, Ivanka Trump's or Sarah Palin's Ping Lists, just let me know.)
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To: KC_Lion
You'd better believe it is!

The legislature that voted for this abomination all received encouragement from the KNEA, the Chammers of Commerce, the KS County and City Employees, and all KS government employees!

Would that the KS taxpayers all remember this sell out and act accordingly!

35 posted on 06/11/2017 2:03:54 PM PDT by zerosix ( Native Sunflower)
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To: KC_Lion

The SWAMP is popping up all over and telling citizens to shove it. The culture of government largesse is run amok. I’m going to invest in lamp posts and piano wire. This can’t continue unabated.


36 posted on 06/11/2017 2:09:28 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: Ennis85

Predicting kind of like selecting your own lottery numbers.


37 posted on 06/11/2017 2:44:49 PM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: KC_Lion; All

Thanks for the ping. Sorry, I don’t have as much time to spend here as I’d like as we have an ill family member to look after.

Exactly, for the tax cuts to work they also had to reduce spending. Our medias trotted out the victims when it come to cutting spending so they were able to derail any kind of reduction in spending. Throw in our judicial system that oversteps it’s bounds when it comes to the legislative agenda and the tax cuts were bound to fail.

I’m sure they knew this going in, setting up the narrative that all this would fail if spending in government wasn’t reduced. I absolutely loathe these leftists and our leftist media that does a good job of controlling the political narrative in Kansas. The problem is, how do we bypass this culture and the media so that Kansans get good informed info on what is really going on in our government? Social medias are doing a good job on the national level but you don’t see much at the state and local levels.

I’ve noticed older folks have a lot of trust in our local medias. They think if they see it on local TV, it must be true. You wouldn’t believe all those I’ve had to deprogram from this line of thinking. Maybe we need local grassroots campaigns to inform Kansans not to trust the local medias when it comes to politics.

We’ve had lots of local and national businesses shut down or leave and this ties in directly with over-bloated government and taxation at all levels as a great example of the local medias not informing Kansans of the consequences of big over-bloated governments. It’s only going to get worse until we get our governments under control. We need to bring the real truth to the people of Kansas and tie all these failures to the leftists in Kansas and their corrupt media.

CGato


38 posted on 06/12/2017 11:31:31 AM PDT by Conservative Gato (There are NOW 4 kind of LIES; Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and the Media.)
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