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Senate GOP’s ObamaCare replacement bill is ‘very liberal’
The New York Post, America's oldest continuously circulating newspaper ^ | June 6, 2017 | 8:15pm | Gabby Morrongiello

Posted on 06/07/2017 11:56:28 AM PDT by TBP

Senate Republican leaders outlined a “very liberal” ObamaCare replacement bill during their weekly lunch with their members on Tuesday, sources said.

“The moderates are very happy,” an aide to Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah), one of the Senate’s most conservative members, told The Post. “It was a very liberal bill.”

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) told reporters that the upper chamber is “getting very close to having a proposal to whip and to take to the floor” on health care.

His comments came after the leaders met with President Trump at the White House to discuss health care reform.

According to one source, the document shared with members Tuesday excluded a provision that would allow state waivers for community rating rules — something that was added to the House bill shortly before its passage.

The source said conservatives emerged from the lunch feeling “very unhappy” about the current direction of health care reform.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: gop; goplies2america; healthcare; nevertrustthegop; rinos; romneyagenda; romneycare; romneycare4all; romneycare4ever; romneyvstrump; ryancare; senate
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The RINOs are betraying us again. I hope President Trump doesn't sign on to this monstrosity.
1 posted on 06/07/2017 11:56:29 AM PDT by TBP
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To: TBP

We will repeal and replace.
Voters, bend over again.


2 posted on 06/07/2017 11:59:20 AM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not tired of Winning.)
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To: TBP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v3etuIw-aM


3 posted on 06/07/2017 12:03:23 PM PDT by Red Badger (You can't assimilate one whose entire reason for being here is to not assimilate in the first place.)
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To: TBP

Conservatives aren’t making their case in public and the “moderates” are. If you want to win the debate you’ve got to have the debate.


4 posted on 06/07/2017 12:07:18 PM PDT by wiseprince
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To: TBP

Elections have consequences? Not in Congress. Nothing ever changes there.


5 posted on 06/07/2017 12:08:24 PM PDT by Uncle Sam 911
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To: Uncle Sam 911

Well, how long have you been seeing the same faces in Congress. Everyone is always worried about R/D instead of the actual people. 6 years of pain 20 years ago would have gotten rid of McCain but everyone wants the “R” in the chair.


6 posted on 06/07/2017 12:12:10 PM PDT by wiseprince
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To: TBP

The GOP PROMISED, that means nothing to them,
to REPEAL, that means reject, ObamaCARE, that
means RomneyCARE.

But they lied again.
... and Again.
... and Again.


7 posted on 06/07/2017 12:16:27 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: TBP

Just get something done to start the process of destroying Obamacare completely. It will probably take several years.


8 posted on 06/07/2017 12:17:31 PM PDT by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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To: TBP

While I would not be surprised if this were true, anything printed by the current MSM isn’t worthy of getting fired up about.

We’ll see what’s in the bill when it is made public.

A few days ago they were saying health-care wouldn’t be addressed this year.

We simply cannot trust the media any longer.


9 posted on 06/07/2017 12:18:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (May the Covfefe be with you...)
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To: Az Joe
Just get something done to start the process of destroying Obamacare completely. It will probably take several years.

Destroying Obamacare and replacing it with Trumpcare isn't much of a win. It'll prove just as disastrous for the GOP as Obamacare was to the Democrats.

10 posted on 06/07/2017 12:19:51 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: TBP

Any bill they come up with is worthless without the state waivers. It is the waivers that will allow for lower premiums and deductibles in the states that are serious about rolling back Obamacare.


11 posted on 06/07/2017 12:20:44 PM PDT by mtrott
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To: DoodleDawg

Unless the conclusion you jumped too actually is a pool of quicksand


12 posted on 06/07/2017 12:22:37 PM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: Uncle Sam 911
Elections have consequences? Not in Congress. Nothing ever changes there.

Washington DC is fed by massive government debt, in our printed, unbacked Federal Reserve currency. It keeps government and our markets afloat - for now anyway.

If you are in DC, you can't fight it. Given that every imagine social-engineering scheme is possible, it makes everyone a progressive - even conservatives.

13 posted on 06/07/2017 12:24:21 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Red Badger

Thank you.


14 posted on 06/07/2017 12:24:42 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: TBP

“sources said” = fabricated bullshit

didn’t bother to read any further.


15 posted on 06/07/2017 12:25:48 PM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: TBP

ANY plan out of DC is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. It doesn’t matter how many unicorns and rainbows are in it, it simply should not exist!!!!


16 posted on 06/07/2017 12:26:14 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: bert
Unless the conclusion you jumped too actually is a pool of quicksand.

It's hard not to see Trumpcare as anything but a disaster given the proposals and what's been promised. The GOP would have been better off repealing and not replacing rather that replacing one train wreck with another.

17 posted on 06/07/2017 12:27:48 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: TBP

I thought Cruz was heading up this effort???


18 posted on 06/07/2017 12:30:09 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: TBP; newgeezer

They will probably have to pass it for us to see(feel) what is in it.


19 posted on 06/07/2017 12:33:39 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (How many ways do liberals hate the bible?)
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To: TBP; All
Thank you for referencing that article TBP. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

Folks, we really need to get rid of the ill-conceived 17th Amendment. The state legislatures foolishly gave up their voices in Congress by ratifying that amendment, effectively repealing the whole Constitution by doing so imo.

Next, regarding the Senate’s Obamacare replacement bill, patriots are reminded that the states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to the corrupt Washington cartel the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for INTRAstate healthcare purposes.

"State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added]." -Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

So Congress must work Trumpcare within its limited Commerce Clause powers (1.8.3). This means not only removing federal laws and regulations from the books that are actually based on stolen state powers, such laws probably making healthcare more expensive, but also surrendering stolen state powers back to the states so that the states, not the feds, are appropriating taxes to run their own healthcare programs.

"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States."—Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.


And if Trumpcare ends up needing new federal powers then Trump must first successfully work with the states to amend a Trumpcare amendment to the Constitution.

Drain the swamp! Drain the swamp!

Remember in November ’18 !

Since Trump entered the ’16 presidential race too late for patriots to make sure that there were state sovereignty-respecting candidates on the primary ballots, patriots need make sure that such candidates are on the ’18 primary ballots so that they can be elected to support Trump in draining the unconstitutionally big federal government swamp.

Such a Congress will also be able to finish draining the swamp with respect to getting the remaining state sovereignty-ignoring, activist Supreme Court justices off of the bench.

In fact, if Justice Gorsuch turns out to be a liberal Trojan Horse then we will need 67 patriot senators to remove a House-impeached Gorsuch from office.

Noting that the primaries start in Iowa and New Hampshire in February ‘18, patriots need to challenge candidates for federal office in the following way.

While I Googled the primary information above concerning Iowa and New Hampshire, FReeper iowamark brought to my attention that the February primaries for these states apply only to presidential election years. And after doing some more scratching, since primary dates for most states for 2018 elections probably haven’t been uploaded at this time (March 14, 2017), FReepers will need to find out primary dates from sources and / or websites in their own states.

Patriots need to qualify candidates by asking them why the Founding States made the Constitution’s Section 8 of Article I; to limit (cripple) the federal government’s powers.

Patriots also need to find candidates that are knowledgeable of the Supreme Court's clarifications of the federal government’s limited powers listed below.


20 posted on 06/07/2017 12:42:38 PM PDT by Amendment10
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