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Jury finds man guilty of jury tampering after passing out juror rights pamphlets
Fox 17 ^ | June 1, 2017 | Dana Chicklas,

Posted on 06/07/2017 3:32:03 AM PDT by Mechanicos

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To: fruser1

Meanwhile, just last week we learned of an acquitted black murderer.

A black juror told the panel early on she would not vote to convict “because there were too many young black men in jail”


21 posted on 06/07/2017 5:38:24 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: unixfox
They explain that a juror has more power than the judge lets on.

A jury has more power than the President.
A jury can instantly get rid of bad law. Presidents don't have that power.

Unfortunately, most people don't know this -and judges like it that way.
22 posted on 06/07/2017 5:41:14 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Vote for your guns!)
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To: jjotto
Interesting carve out. "Public duty" feds don't serve on fed juries.

"Barred" and "exempt" have different connotations, but I take your point, they have a get out of (federal) jury duty card. I would suspect any local courts honor it.

The feds also excuse "persons over age 70; persons who have, within the past two years, served on a federal jury; and persons who serve as volunteer fire fighters or members of a rescue squad or ambulance crew."

sate of Washington excludes full time students, but doesn't exclude government employees.

Maine law exempts the following individuals from jury service:
State of Maine Judicial Branch: Jury Information - Exemptions, Excuses, and Deferrals

Connecticut does not exempt police, but I bet they get voir dired out, pronto!

23 posted on 06/07/2017 5:49:56 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: fruser1
I'm not a lawyer, but I think that, generally, "peers" means people from your same local community. This would infer that the jury is made up of people who are guided by the same local issues, taxes, representation, weather, etc. This would have been important 250 years ago to prevent people from being hauled away for a trial in a distant land where the locals couldn't bear witness to the defendant's character, testimony, and community standing.

The opposition to "peers" would be when a court grants a motion for a change of venue. This would cause a jury to be made up of people from another town who would have different living conditions from the person being tried, and would not likely know the reputation of the defendant.

-PJ

24 posted on 06/07/2017 5:54:52 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Cboldt

Juries need to be of “peers”, because you don’t want an all-white jury in the Old South trying a black man; or an all ghetto jury trying a white man in 2017.

The jury is there to prevent the state from forcing a wrongful conviction.

It is NOT there to “represent a cross-section of the community”.
(The community is not on trial or in danger of facing wrongful conviction.)


25 posted on 06/07/2017 5:56:15 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: CondorFlight
-- The jury is there to prevent the state from forcing a wrongful conviction. --

Juries are a funky institution, in some cases perverted by the legal system, in some cases nothing but perfunctory window dressing, and in some cases doing righteous work.

Most jurors are ill informed. Think "WalMart people," and that cohort is s step up from the typical jury. Juries are people to stupid to get out of jury duty.

26 posted on 06/07/2017 6:02:16 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Mechanicos
With the cases coming out of DNA being used to find a convicted person innocent these days, you'd think the judiciary would acknowledge that they aren't perfect and would be working to improve things, but no, they like their little fiefdoms.

They like to say, "My courtroom." It isn't "their" courtroom, it's the people courtroom!

27 posted on 06/07/2017 6:08:04 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Mechanicos

Our Courts DO NOT WANT fully informed Jurists— they want a Jury controlled by the Judicial system .We have the totalitarian government we deserve.


28 posted on 06/07/2017 6:22:06 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Mechanicos

This guy will win on appeal and then can sue the judge and the cops who arrested him.

Normally a judge is not civilly liable for their actions, but in this case, he is the complaining witness so is action was not in his role as a judge.


29 posted on 06/07/2017 6:35:47 AM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: Mechanicos

You can quit posting everything to Frontpage.

Now.


30 posted on 06/07/2017 6:36:31 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

I posted 3 articles this morning. Only this one was posted to Front page and as far as I could see it was within the guidelines as activism, constitutional and from a legit source. My record is pretty good with postings on FR as you can tell.

You Instruction is confusing as it seems to contradict the posted guidelines and past experience. Are you saying I can no longer post to frontpage? Anything? Why?


31 posted on 06/07/2017 6:55:52 AM PDT by Mechanicos
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To: bert

Well here’s hoping his victim was black and all future victims will be black.
These thugs go back into this woman’s neighborhood.


32 posted on 06/07/2017 7:21:53 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: SecAmndmt

Really, so is he in jail?


33 posted on 06/07/2017 7:47:21 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: Mechanicos

Truth is tampering? Or are the pamphlets lefty disinfo to harm the trial by jury process?


34 posted on 06/07/2017 8:55:42 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

I have no idea. The book that was written on the subject was compelling, to me at least. Count me as one of the few, maybe, who doesn’t think that OJ is guilty of murder.


35 posted on 06/07/2017 10:11:22 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SecAmndmt

His blood was at the scene, knife cut on his finger, multiple threats made, and the gloves that actually did fit and his DNA, her DNA, and Goldmans DNA. Overwhelming evidence but the Africans on the stacked jury didn’t believe it either.


36 posted on 06/07/2017 10:16:52 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: Neoliberalnot

You don’t need to retry the case with me. He was found not guilty by a jury of his peers. Your pointing out the race of the jurors, and the verbage you used is duly noted (I guess you felt it was going to cross the line to use the n-word?). The funny thing is, you have probably voted for politicians who support the welfare state (the reason the black family unit has been destroyed) and illegal immigration (which restricts employment opportunities for poor Americans).


37 posted on 06/07/2017 2:19:13 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Neoliberalnot

The glove didn’t fit man!


38 posted on 06/07/2017 5:45:08 PM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: SecAmndmt

Sorry, my brother is a lawyer and was sickened by the case outcome. I think there were 10 Africans on the jury of 12 and there was no way in hell they were ever going to convict OJ.

The book of fiction you read does is not an argument with evidence.


39 posted on 06/07/2017 6:36:12 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: Neoliberalnot

You are referring to Americans as “Africans”

Do you really think we need frank prejudice in this forum?

Unless your brother was a criminal defense attorney with intimate knowledge of the evidence, his opinion is not worth much more than any layman. We have people falsely convicted despite exculpatory evidence on a routine basis. Prosecutors and police routinely lie in Court, pursue cases for political reasons etc. and the lawyers and judges are rarely given meaningful punishment for misdeeds. We had a judge here in TX given a prison term for malfeasance a few years ago, and it was an absolute shock.

The man who wrote the books on OJ was, I believe former LAPD with a 50 year resume in investigation. I’ll take his word over Mark Fuhrman any day.


40 posted on 06/07/2017 7:28:24 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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