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1 posted on 05/26/2017 1:34:11 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Instead of ‘fake news’ I prefer the old fashioned term: outright lies...........


2 posted on 05/26/2017 1:38:19 AM PDT by Red Badger (Profanity is the sound of an ignorant mind trying to express itself.............)
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To have “collusion”, you need a crime.

No crime, no collusion. Just a Liberal Wet Dream.


3 posted on 05/26/2017 1:41:00 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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At some point, just to stir the pot, I think the Russians will ask if they can present some evidence, and there will be some indications of the Clinton Foundation and John Podesta having talks with insider-lobbyists to the Russians. At that point, the news media will shut down this topic very quickly, and the investigation will drag on for six months while no one says a word, even in leaks. By mid-term elections in 2018....this will be mostly a forgotten subject.

The problem I see here...is that there are two types of Russian conversations. One could lead onto Russian government folks (like the Ambassador), and the other could lead onto the billionaire-crowd and cash-pay-outs. When you try to identify which is which...then you come to realize the billionaire-crowd just want insider information to get rich just like the Saudis and various US banks did over the past twenty years. Will we prosecute on those insider talks? I seriously doubt it.


4 posted on 05/26/2017 1:52:18 AM PDT by pepsionice
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The media industry needs a Martin Luther to lead it to a Reformation.


5 posted on 05/26/2017 1:53:21 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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the media will continue on. Never any punishment. They a good boy. Conservatives fight with their fists, and liberals use feminine methods like psy ops. Head games, like women. No offense.


6 posted on 05/26/2017 1:53:44 AM PDT by brucedickinson
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Nothing happens to the media.

They never have to be held accountable.

They control the "memory hole" that they will use to make their entire, fabricated, "Russian Collusion" propaganda effort disappear.

7 posted on 05/26/2017 1:54:33 AM PDT by Washi
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Mass-scale RICO charges against the media.


8 posted on 05/26/2017 1:54:42 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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If Trump is innocent of collusion with Russia, what happens to the media?

well then, as always we just go down the prepared talking points/headlines list...

---it is the fourth oncoming blood moon...

---it was the deplorables' conspiracy...

---it's the clingers with their bible and gun prayers...

---it was my wife...Morgan Fairchild...

yeaaaah, that's the ticket!!!

9 posted on 05/26/2017 2:11:13 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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They will simply move to another trumped up charge.


11 posted on 05/26/2017 2:24:14 AM PDT by Raycpa
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If there’s no global warming, what happens to Climatology departments?


12 posted on 05/26/2017 2:44:56 AM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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The problem with the media is not "accuracy" of reported news as the poll may seem to suggest. It is apparent that the media has become politically weaponized and the measurement of "accuracy" at the source is now in context to the intended political result.

Thus, if the intended result is to deligitimize the POTUS, anything that furthers that narrative is newsworthy and thus justified as responsible from within. We have seen recently internal (to the media) criticism of reporting the news which "normalizes" Trump. This accuracy of reporting current days events without first politically contextualizing it is "inaccurate" according to their self governing consensus. Can anyone see the prejudice there?

The inability of introspection within the DNC and the media is one and the same. They no longer tolerate elections as relevant input towards their view of things, or as the respected and justified will of others; but rather elections are now just a score on how effective they have been media wide in convincing everyone else that they are wrong. They simply have no respect for any other viewpoint (bias) than their own. Everyone else just hasn't received enough "information". We even see this as a form of compassion (condescension) towards perpetrators of murder like we see in the terror attacks.

What happens if Trump is innocent of collusion? I guess you mean if Trump is found to be innocent by investigation? The media is shown to be out of the closet as being ideologically biased. But we know that already.

Maybe we can get them to add letters by their names or something. Wolf Blitzer (D). Something like that. Or Stephen Colbert (P). Etc.

13 posted on 05/26/2017 2:54:28 AM PDT by Religion and Politics (It's Morning in America)
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Answer:

Nothing.


14 posted on 05/26/2017 2:58:55 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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The worst thing that can happen to the media is already happening ... People SHOULD stop watching them.


15 posted on 05/26/2017 3:04:00 AM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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We've all known Trump for 4 decades. With a loan from dad he took to NYC to develop condos & coops. He now owns casinos, golf clubs, manages hotels and high-rises, runs beauty contests, is a serial entrepreneur brandishing his name on everything from bottled water to neckties, he has municipal, state and federal construction contracts, and had a hit network TV show, he makes tens of millions of dollars per year personally.

So tell me, what the heck does Trump need from Putin?

And for his part, Putin is the strongman leader of Russia, former high ranking member of the Russian foreign intelligence spy agency, friends with men richer than Trump (who are so rich by their collusion with Putin - even Putin's friend from youth is an orchestral musician who somehow amassed a $500 million fortune of his own! (yeah, right)). So what does Putin need from Trump? Does Putin with his experience in KGB and as leader of Russia need Trump to tell him what and when to hack?

On the other hand, Hillary Clinton was instrumental in the development of a Russian industrial park Skolvoko, after taking money from Russian oligarchs, and lured many of America's greatest technology companies (who were also donors to the Clinton Foundation) into setting up shop in Skolvoko and becoming what the FBI later characterized as unwitting victims of Russian industrial espionage. This alone should raise suspicion of Sedition - if done under the auspices of the State Department it might be protected but because nearly all the players have funneled huge sums of money into a private organization controlled by the then Sec of State it deserves much greater scrutiny.

This whole Trump+Russia chimera has no basis in logic, while at the same time there also appears to be much more blatant, overt collusion by the Clinton to enable Russian spy agencies to easily extract valuable and sensitive technological know how. That many of these companies are also contractors to the US government warrants thorough investigation on what may have been compromised and whether any quid-pro-quo was established (bribery). Too many coincidences including the special access to State Dept by CGI donors to simply let this lay uninvestigated. Comey deserved to be fired for usurping the role of the DOJ in asserting "no charges to be filed" after a brief investigation of emails that had been wiped from her private server, and without at that time knowing that these emails were backed-up in the NYC apartment of Huma Abedin nor having access to the CGI communications.

The one saving grace in all this is that the Special Prosecutor Robert Meuller has pretty much free reign to investigate all of this and much more. In my mind it would be hard for him not to make a connection and investigate the origins of any and all "collusion" between all the candidates, politicians, diplomats, corporations that may have played a part in this saga. Indeed there is a chance - given the recent shake-up inside the DOJ and FBI, that the DOJ is rope-a-doping some of these characters by playing along with the Democrats as cover for an investigation into their dealings.

This is probably a much bigger mess than anyone wants to admit, and I have no idea how all the dots will connect, especially when you start to add in some of the bizarre twists like all the emails that ended up on Weiner's laptop, the laptops taken from the offices of Debbie Wasserman Shulz's offices, the IT brothers who had no security clearance but open access to scores of Congressional servers, the mysterious murder of Seth Rich and so on... the roads this investigation could travel are endless. And judging by the near hysteria coming from Podesta, Brazille, and Wasserman-Schulz one has to wonder if they are acutely aware of how this could all blow back on them.

17 posted on 05/26/2017 3:29:12 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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Trump should punish the usual suspects with NO interviews or appearances.

Show up on fair networks and, to really twist the knife, fair AFFILIATES. Go to medium size markets in swing states. The networks will HAVE to carry the interview killing the so-called “stars” of Netwok news.


19 posted on 05/26/2017 3:58:29 AM PDT by LeonardFMason (426)
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What happens? They continue digging until they find something. Dig hard enough, and for long enough, and you’ll eventually find something on anyone. Not to mention that there are several bad actors that may be willing to leak information from within, or create falsehoods. Trump is a strong man, but I think the presidency will affect his health. Which is why he should steam full speed ahead anyway.


21 posted on 05/26/2017 4:28:31 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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Piece of cake. "MUH Russia" just goes down the memory hole, and the press carries on with some other manufactured outrage, as if nothing happened.

For the press and most of its audience, history starts anew each morning.

22 posted on 05/26/2017 4:29:50 AM PDT by Cboldt
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The media will never give up the template of “Trump’s collusion with Russia”...... this will continue to shadow him throughout his presidency. Comey’s purpose along with some of his underlings was to destroy Donald Trump.


23 posted on 05/26/2017 4:32:58 AM PDT by kenmcg
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Where is “collusion” stated as a crime?


26 posted on 05/26/2017 4:50:39 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for!)
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Shouldn’t that be “ When” not “ If” ?


27 posted on 05/26/2017 4:58:33 AM PDT by silverleaf (We voted for change, not leftover change)
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