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Trump travel ban blocked; fight headed for Supreme Court
AP ^ | May 25, 2017 | JESSICA GRESKO

Posted on 05/25/2017 5:19:50 PM PDT by Pinkbell

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump's revised travel ban "speaks with vague words of national security, but in context drips with religious intolerance, animus and discrimination," a federal appeals court said Thursday in ruling against the executive order targeting six Muslim-majority countries.

Trump's administration vowed to take the fight to the U.S. Supreme Court.

In a 10-3 vote, the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit said the ban likely violates the Constitution. And it upheld a lower court ruling that blocks the Republican administration from cutting off visas for people from Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen.

The Richmond, Virginia-based 4th Circuit is the first appeals court to rule on the revised travel ban unveiled in March. Trump's administration had hoped it would avoid the legal problems that the first version from January encountered. A second appeals court, the 9th U.S. Circuit based in San Francisco, is also weighing the revised travel ban after a federal judge in Hawaii blocked it.

The Supreme Court almost certainly would step into the case if asked. The justices almost always have the final say when a lower court strikes down a federal law or presidential action.

Trump could try to persuade the Supreme Court to allow the policy to take effect, even while the justices weigh whether to hear the case, by arguing that the court orders blocking the ban make the country less safe. If the administration does ask the court to step in, the justices' first vote could signal the court's ultimate decision.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 4thcircuit; scotus; searchworks; travelban; trump
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I figured this would go to the Supreme Court. If this was banning Muslims - it would ban all Muslims - not just Muslims from these 6 countries. If this was banning Muslims, it would be a permanent ban, not a 3 month one. These things alone indicate to me it's not based on religion. Figure - 82% of the Muslim population is not affected at all. It's amazing to me that the President now can't decide who can enter the country when there is a terrorism risk. What if there is an attack from one of these countries?
1 posted on 05/25/2017 5:19:50 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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I propose that these judges get sent over to Manchester England...
...so they can be forced to clean the walls and floors of the concert hall of the bits and pieces of the little girls blown up by the Islamist Terrorist Bastard.

And then after making them do that, and making them sort out what body bit belongs to just what little girl...
...force these blacked-robed sleazeballs to deliver those pieces to the parents, while explaining to them their rationale on this ruling.

2 posted on 05/25/2017 5:26:41 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: Pinkbell
The Admin can ban anyone or any group they want to. Foreigners have ZERO, ZIP, NADA rights to enter our country with sovereign borders. I know that last one was a howler wasn't it!!!
3 posted on 05/25/2017 5:27:23 PM PDT by Cheerio (#44, The unknown President)
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To: Pinkbell

Right.

The judges got this one horribly wrong. Such an absurd ruling, on so many levels.


4 posted on 05/25/2017 5:30:29 PM PDT by Theo (FReeping since 1998 ... drain the swamp.)
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To: Pinkbell

Trump will lose 5-4, Kennedy siding with the deep state ...


5 posted on 05/25/2017 5:33:52 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: Pinkbell

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;q=quick;s=travel%20ban


6 posted on 05/25/2017 5:35:23 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (MAGA!!!)
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To: Pinkbell

The court didn’t rule on the constitutionality of the order but on how they believed Trump felt.

How does that work? Maybe fascist judges can now be hanged on how we feel about them.


7 posted on 05/25/2017 5:36:23 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Pinkbell

Ten islamist facilitators on the 4th Circuit.

Any islamist crime, no less attack, should be traced directly back to these fools.

TREASON.


8 posted on 05/25/2017 5:40:46 PM PDT by onedoug (KEK)
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To: Pinkbell

but in context drips with religious intolerance, animus and discrimination,” a federal appeals court said Thursday in ruling against the executive order t

Since when did “context drips with religious intolerance” become a basis for a legal ruling?
That sounds like opinion and not a ruling on facts or the actual law.


9 posted on 05/25/2017 5:41:15 PM PDT by 48th SPS Crusader (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat)
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To: SecondAmendment
Trump will lose 5-4, Kennedy siding with the deep state...

Or, John Roberts will be the turncoat again...as he was in the ruling on Obamacare.

We need at least two more conservative judges on the Court.
10 posted on 05/25/2017 5:41:37 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Pinkbell

The issue is that these countries have hostile governments or lack governments so getting good data on applicants is suspect. A moratorium is entirely reasonable.


11 posted on 05/25/2017 5:42:02 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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The Supreme Court may issue a summary reversal to enforce its own clear and on-point precedent. In doing so, the court reminds the lower courts of how authoritative it is.

For instance, the court has intoned that “it is this Court’s prerogative alone to overrule one of its precedents” and that those precedents “bind” the lower court whose decision was under review.

The summary reversal fits a familiar picture of vertical “stare decisis” (precedent), in which the court issues formal precedents that lower courts are absolutely obliged to follow – and absolutely may not overrule.

But this chastisement can go further, if the lower court either disregards clear federal law, established and constitutional on its face; or, as in this case, when the court introduces extraneous information not part of the case.

The lower courts ignored what was actually written in President Trump’s executive orders, and whether it was legal or not, and tried to “read into them” from what he had said in campaign speeches.

This is judicial malfeasance, and could arguably lead to the impeachment of these judges, or for the SCOTUS, or congress, to remove these judges from hearing any cases in the future.


12 posted on 05/25/2017 5:43:35 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Baizuo" A derogatory term the Chinese are using to describe America's naive "White Left")
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The Manchester bomber had just returned from Libia, we are actively conducting raids in Somalia and Yemen, we are actively fighting in Syria, what more do these judges need to know? Just because they are suicidal doesn’t mean we all have to die with them


13 posted on 05/25/2017 5:43:51 PM PDT by McGavin999
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-- What if there is an attack from one of these countries? --

By the court's logic, that would be the voter's fault, for electing Trump.

Why the pepole put up with these [expetive deleted] in the federal government is a mystery to me.

14 posted on 05/25/2017 5:46:52 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Signalman

There are serious security implications to hamstringing a president in national security concerns for political reasons. That is the heart of this issue and scotus should put an end to it.


15 posted on 05/25/2017 5:46:54 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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To: SecondAmendment
I don't think we know that for certain, and we also don't know when this will be officially presented, do we? Trump may time this to be placed before the justices when he replaces Ruth Buzzi or Kennedy. 😊
16 posted on 05/25/2017 5:47:14 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

+1

I hope you are correct.


17 posted on 05/25/2017 5:49:19 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Trump travel ban blocked; fight headed for Supreme Court

These Far Left Liberal Judges have never even bothered to read the Constitution! President Trump will win this round with the SCOTUS.

It should be an open and shut case immediately---we hope!

I will say this one more time. These Mooselimbs should never be allowed into this country until they renounce their so called Mooselimb Religion of Peace. It will now be revised to the Religion of Heathen Mooselimbs who want to kill us asap. I ain't lying!

18 posted on 05/25/2017 5:56:17 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (God Bless Texas...)
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If this was banning Muslims, it would be a permanent ban, not a 3 month one.

The next argument will be that Trump has had his 3 months to develop the enhanced vetting procedures. Why keep pushing for the ban?

19 posted on 05/25/2017 5:57:42 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: 48th SPS Crusader

Since when did “context drips with religious intolerance” become a basis for a legal ruling


Would be interesting to see any case precedence to back up this statement. Used to be they would refer to existing precedent in a new ruling, not just make things up out of thin air. The justice system is dead, lady justice threw the scales and blindfold away. Should be no need for a law degree anymore if this moronic group of black robed brain damaged morons can now rule the country with baseless judgements that have no laws behind it. I guess criminals can now have a ‘context’ defense to go along with comeys ‘intent’ defense for lawbreaking.


20 posted on 05/25/2017 5:58:30 PM PDT by redcatcherb412
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