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Democratic Leaders Try to Slow Calls to Impeach Trump
New York Times ^ | May 18, 2017 | Jonathan Martin and Alexander Burns

Posted on 05/19/2017 5:39:04 AM PDT by Reno89519

WASHINGTON — When House Democratic leaders hastily called a news conference Wednesday to demonstrate their outrage at President Trump’s latest dramatics, they took great pains to show they were not seeking to railroad him out of the White House.

“No one ought to, in my view, rush to embrace the most extraordinary remedy that involves the removal of the president from office,” said Representative Adam B. Schiff of California, the sober-minded senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee. He warned that Democrats should not let their actions “be perceived as an effort to nullify the election by other means.”

At that very moment, Representative Al Green, Democrat of Texas, was in the well of the House thundering, “The president must be impeached!”

The barrage of reports about Mr. Trump’s chaotic and controversial administration has helped revive Democrats, raising their hopes that they can ride a Trumpian backlash to great success in next year’s elections. But with the cloud over the White House darkening each day, liberal activists are courting a backlash of their own as they demand of their lawmakers nothing short of driving the president from office by any means necessary.

The demands of the radicalized party base are being amplified by growing calls from a series of Democratic candidates for statewide office who, in an effort to outflank their primary rivals, have started clamoring for Mr. Trump’s impeachment.

Democratic members of Congress have for weeks sought to find their own political safe space when it comes to questions about removing Mr. Trump, calling for a special prosecutor and a thorough investigation and airing of all the facts. But the decision Wednesday by the Justice Department to name the former F.B.I. director Robert S. Mueller III as special counsel for the investigation into Russia’s interference in last year’s election has complicated their position.

The appointment drew praise from many quarters of the party but also statements that it was not enough.

“This latest move by the Trump administration is too little, too late,” declared Charles Chamberlain, executive director of the liberal advocacy group Democracy for America. “We cannot afford to have Congress sit back and watch this play out the same way it just did, with Trump and his stooges obstructing another investigation into their corruption and high crimes. Congress needs to act now to impeach Trump.”

Such demands, and the deluge of stories detailing what progressives believe amounts to high crimes and misdemeanors, are making it increasingly difficult for lawmakers to maintain a judicious posture. So far, members of the Congressional Black Caucus are taking the most aggressive tack, a recognition of the boiling anger toward the president in many black communities.

In a speech to the liberal Center for American Progress on Tuesday, Representative Maxine Waters of California drew applause and whistles when she reminded the audience of her insistence that Mr. Trump be driven from office. But even more notably, Ms. Waters, a veteran lawmaker, has also been intensifying pressure on her colleagues to recognize the threat she said is posed by a reckless president.

“I know that there are those who are talking about, ‘Well, we’re going to get ready for the next election,’” she said, mimicking her more cautious colleagues. “No, we can’t wait that long. We don’t need to wait that long. He will have destroyed this country by then.”

Liberals are planning a series of nationwide protests on July 2 known as “Impeachment Marches” to increase the pressure.

“We expect them to call for impeachment,” said Delia Brown, one of the organizers of the march in Los Angeles. “This is now the zeitgeist, it’s the demands of people we’re responding to.”

MoveOn.org, one of the most influential liberal organizing groups, sent an email alert Wednesday suggesting that activists tell lawmakers: “If news reports are true, this is obstruction of justice, and Congress must impeach.”

By day’s end, the impeachment drive had spread beyond the activist left: J.B. Pritzker, a prominent Democratic donor and businessman who is running for governor of Illinois, publicly demanded that the House initiate proceedings against Mr. Trump. He said other investigative options were too slow.

“We simply do not have the luxury of time to wait for months or years to determine whether the current president of the United States has committed high crimes and misdemeanors,” Mr. Pritzker said, adding: “The House must begin the impeachment process before Donald Trump puts us at risk again.”

Most congressional Democrats are still wary about calling for Mr. Trump to be frog-marched out of the West Wing. The expectations of their base, they believe, are outrunning what is feasible as long as Republicans control both chambers of Congress.

The fear, Democratic officials say, is that they will invite the sort of backlash from their base that Republicans got for overpromising about what was possible while President Barack Obama was in office. They argue that methodically building a case — obtaining and revealing any memos or White House recordings, for example — is the soundest approach if they are to bring Republicans along.

Even Senator Bernie Sanders, the liberal Vermont firebrand, counseled patience. “What needs to happen is that we have got to go forward with an absolutely bipartisan investigation,” Mr. Sanders said. “The public must understand this is not a Democratic issue.”

Senator Richard J. Durbin, the second-ranking Democrat in the Senate, was even more forceful in speaking of the party’s activists.

“They wanted the president gone on November the 10th of last year,” Mr. Durbin said. “I want to make certain that we follow the law, follow the Constitution, do it in an orderly way and not to get into a crazed political crusade at this point.”

But such a measured approach is not sufficient for those progressives who are channeling the fierce urgency of now.

The loudest calls for impeachment on Wednesday came from candidates running on the left in Democratic primary elections: In Virginia and New Jersey, two states holding off-year elections for governor this fall, insurgent primary candidates insisted that Congress must begin a process that could end with Mr. Trump’s removal. In Illinois, one of Mr. Pritzker’s primary challengers, Daniel Biss, a state senator, also called for impeachment proceedings to begin.

Tom Perriello, a former House member from Virginia who is running for governor, said in an interview that he would have joined Mr. Green’s call for impeachment if he were still in Congress. “A lot of Democratic voters and a lot of independents right now want to figure out a constitutional process for impeaching Donald Trump,” he said, adding: “We’re talking about, now, something that makes Watergate look like child’s play.”

Jim Johnson, a former Clinton administration official running on the left in the New Jersey primary, similarly invoked Watergate. “If the findings are such that President Trump obstructed justice, Congress must begin impeachment proceedings,” Mr. Johnson said in a statement.

For the most part, more establishment-aligned Democratic candidates declined to go that far. In New Jersey, for instance, Mr. Johnson’s chief Democratic opponent, Phil Murphy, a former ambassador to Germany, stopped at the appointment of a special prosecutor. Party strategists fear that Democrats might sacrifice the moral and political high ground by appearing too eager, and some leaders worry that an impeachment drumbeat would drown out Democrats’ message to voters on kitchen-table issues like health care and taxes.

At the House news conference, the bind facing the minority was clear: Mr. Trump’s possible connections to Russia are central to their opposition and downright irresistible. The lawmakers appeared flanked by a picture of Mr. Trump shaking hands with Sergey V. Lavrov, Russia’s foreign minister, and two screens projecting the Twitter hashtag “#ProtectOurDemocracy.”

Yet even as impeachment rumblings continued to build, the party leaders seemed to warn colleagues against overplaying their hand.

“I’m not afraid of the i-word,” Representative Joseph Crowley of New York, chairman of the Democratic caucus, said coyly. “It’s independent. Independent commission, independent investigator.”


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KEYWORDS: 115th; democrats; dncstrategy; dopeydems; impeach; second100days; trump
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Impeach? Stupid call. No crime, the special counselor is going to operate behind closed doors. So no news.
1 posted on 05/19/2017 5:39:05 AM PDT by Reno89519
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To: Reno89519
sober-minded senior Democrat

If there was ever an oxymoron . . .

2 posted on 05/19/2017 5:41:22 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: Reno89519

DIM leaders beginning to realize that they’ve badly overplayed their hand?

Nahhh!


3 posted on 05/19/2017 5:46:34 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)
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To: Reno89519

Likely facts and subtle threats from our side actually made some of the enemy listen...


4 posted on 05/19/2017 5:46:39 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (We must never shut up.)
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To: Reno89519

The dems are doing themselves no favors. They’re coming off as unhinged. Of course we know that’s their true nature but they’re failing to hide it now as well as they usually do.


5 posted on 05/19/2017 5:46:50 AM PDT by JamesP81 (The DNC poses a greater threat to my liberty than terrorists, China, and Russia. Combined.)
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To: madprof98

It is just a ploy. One side of the lib mouth is talking in moderation with the other is spitting rabid froth. Their base will hear one thing and the RINOs will hear another. Make no mistake, they are out for blood.


6 posted on 05/19/2017 5:46:58 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: Reno89519
He warned that Democrats should not let their actions “be perceived as an effort to nullify the election by other means.”

They always tell you exactly what they're doing.

7 posted on 05/19/2017 5:47:29 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: ArtDodger

Agreed, the special council is in place now, so time for them to appear to act reasonable...every action is a lie so never forget that...

TG


8 posted on 05/19/2017 5:52:04 AM PDT by Tobias Grimsley
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To: Tobias Grimsley
Liars...seditionists...TRAITORS<!!!
9 posted on 05/19/2017 5:55:36 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation camp?)
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To: ArtDodger
It is just a ploy. One side of the lib mouth is talking in moderation with the other is spitting rabid froth. Their base will hear one thing and the RINOs will hear another. Make no mistake, they are out for blood.

Exactly. It's the old "Good Cop/Bad Cop" strategy. The end game for the Democrats is more than impeachment. If they are able to remove President Trump from office, they will immediately declare that Mike Pence is equally unfit for office and launch their efforts to remove him as well. I believe the goal is to somehow have the results of the 2016 election declared invalid, and have the courts mandate a "do over" is necessary so Hillary (or whoever they designate) can "rightfully" return the White House to Democrat control.

10 posted on 05/19/2017 6:00:17 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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A House news conference had Dems flanked by a picture of Pres Trump shaking hands with Sergey
V. Lavrov, Russia’s foreign minister, and two screens projecting the Twitter hashtag “#ProtectOurDemocracy.”

Sen Minority Leader Schumer is also concerned about a possible Trump/Russian connection.

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In 2003, Schumer welcomed Putin to New York City as the Russian oil company Lukoil opened its first gas station in Manhattan.

In a 2003 New York Post article, Schumer bragged of the new alliance to combat oil prices. “If Lukoil is successful and Russia is successful, then the price of oil will come down,” he said.

UPDATE On September 14, 2012 more than fifty Lukoil gas station owners in New Jersey and Pennsylvania temporarily raised their prices to over $8 a gallon to protest Lukoil's wholesale gas pricing. The owners are typically charged a wholesale price that is 5 to 10 cents a gallon more than their competitors and some are assessed an additional 25 to 30 cents per gallon based on their location.[30] According to the station owners this makes it difficult to be competitive with stations that sell more established brands for lower prices.

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REFERENCE Lukoil (/ˈluːkɔɪl/; Russian: Лукойл; stylized as LUKoil) is one of Russia's largest oil companies.

It is also one of the largest global producers of oil.[3] In 2012, the company produced 89.856 million tons of oil (1.813 million barrels) per day.[4] Headquartered in Moscow, Lukoil is one of the largest public companies (next to ExxonMobil) in terms of proven oil and gas reserves. In 2008, "According to the data audited by Miller and Lents"[5] the company had 19.3 billion barrels of oil equivalent per SPE standards. This amounts to some 1.3% of global oil reserves. The company has operations in more than 40 countries around the world.[6][7] (HAT TIP IKI)

Read more: http://thepoliticalinsider.com/flashback-chuck-schumer-putin-met-vl adimir-putin-nyc/#ixzz4hTVTMtMA

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SENATOR SCHUMER HAS A LOT OF POLITICAL CONNECTIONS TO RUSSIA---
Russian citizens are his constituents. Did Russian citizens (many here illegally) vote for Sen Schumer?

(HAT TIP WIKI) The collapse of the Soviet Union and the subsequent significant changes there led many Russian citizens to immigrate to the United States. Many of the Soviet immigrants of the late 1980s and the 1990s primarily speak Russian......they live in Brighton Beach, Brooklyn, NY. So many Russian citizens immigrated to Brighton Beach that the area became known as "Little Odessa."

In the early 2000s," Oceana," a high-income ocean-front condominium complex, was constructed. Oceana has become the destination of wealthy businessmen, entertainers, and senior govt officials from the former Soviet Union.

A Russian-speaking theater near the waterfront,features performances by actors from Russia, and other countries.

CONT ///Brighton Beach, Brooklyn, NY, is considered a hot spot for the "Russian Mafia." In the 1970s, the most notorious leg of the Russian mafia served as a robbery gang for larger Russian crime syndicates in New York City. A crime boss from Brighton Beach, Brooklyn, NY denies having any connection to the Russian-speaking Mafia.

The major Russian criminal element in Brighton Beach was the international Russian mafia group, known as vor v zakone or "vory," and the first vory crime boss in Brighton Beach, Brooklyn, was Evsei Agron, who controlled the area's crime during the 70s and 80s until his death in 1985.

After the fall of the Soviet Union in the 90s, many ethnic Russian criminals illegally entered the United States, coming primarily to Brighton Beach, Brooklyn.

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Prior to his election to the US Senate, Sen Schumer represented: <><> the Ninth Congressional District in Brooklyn and Queens for eighteen years. <><> earlier Schumer represented the Forty-Fifth Assembly District in Brooklyn for six years. Schumer's Congressional District and his Assembly district saw great waves of Russian citizens move into the area.....and are represented by Sen Schumer and then Cong/Assemblyman Schumer.

11 posted on 05/19/2017 6:00:46 AM PDT by Liz (Shutting down conservatives' free speech is a form of hate speech. samtheman)
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To: GOPJ; Jane Long; MinuteGal; jsanders2001; V K Lee; HarleyLady27; stephenjohnbanker; ...

PING


12 posted on 05/19/2017 6:02:44 AM PDT by Liz (Shutting down conservatives' free speech is a form of hate speech. samtheman)
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To: Reno89519

The libtards will be blamed for halting tax cuts, fixing health care, etc... All the things that represent why Trump won are being slowed/stopped by the dems.

They will be blamed in 2018. And they will be bigly crushed. Only then will they back off a little.

As evidenced by the last presidential election [along with state and local elections over the last 7-8 years], there are a lot more voters who want to fix health insurance and get tax reform than voters who think Trump should be impeached.

The media is pushing the libtard agenda so it “seems” mainstream. Until an election. LOL


13 posted on 05/19/2017 6:11:13 AM PDT by Principled (OMG I'm so tired of all this winning....)
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To: Reno89519

Their polling must be showing it could hurt their 2018 chances — the public isn’t jumping on board.


14 posted on 05/19/2017 6:16:35 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: GreenHornet

“The end game for the Democrats is more than impeachment.”
This Trump win really did throw a monkey wrench in their machinations, didn’t it?
My guess is Hillary’s position looked strong enough that they could back off on the election fraud to give an air of legitimacy to her win. Once in, the screws were really going to tightened on the people, the constitution, the congress, the courts, the education system, etc.
They have regrouped and are coming for our way of life again from a different angle. Once in power, they won’t make the same mistakes again.
Keep your powder dry!


15 posted on 05/19/2017 6:24:53 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: Reno89519

They remember the hay Clinton made during his impeachment


16 posted on 05/19/2017 6:26:42 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the cloudsi)
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To: Reno89519

Special counsel to Comey: “Let see the memos you kept about obama and clinton

Corrupt news media: “Nothing here er... lets talk about squirrels.


17 posted on 05/19/2017 6:26:54 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Arm_Bears

They just don’t want it to become too obvious to LIVs that this was their plan, and a set up from the very beginning. It’s got to look like “OMG, what happened!? Oh no, it can’t be!” It can’t look like a coup d’état. They will not give up. They will hang back while the media saturates every voter with their propaganda, and try to make it all look legal.


18 posted on 05/19/2017 6:27:48 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them.)
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To: facedown

Obstructionists who are bordering on treason


19 posted on 05/19/2017 6:27:56 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the cloudsi)
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To: JamesP81

Obama and the Clintons, Susan Rice and leftist acts while Obama was Pres make anything they throw out for talking points look minor.


20 posted on 05/19/2017 6:30:56 AM PDT by Lumper20
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