TrumpCARE, like RomneyCARE, is a government
intrusion between the sancrosanct doctor patient
relationship.
It destroys innovation and competition and has
billions and billions of rules;
And of course, the government Officials are EXEMPT.
Liberalism and the entire Democrat party are built on lies and false promises. That is noting new.
If they couldn’t pass straight repeal, why didn’t Trump/Ryancare have two critical market driven provisions? Specifically:
1) Pricing transparency and visibility
2) National market for health insurance
Once again, the leviathan state ignores the potential for market forces to lower costs.
And the Republicans are making the very same mistakes. They are selling this one with lower premiums, lower deductibles, increased choice and competition, full coverage for those with pre-existing conditions, and nobody but nobody will be worse off. Where is that different from the Democrats and Obamacare? And what happens when many of those promises don't come true?
Also overlooked are the facts that almost all Americans are covered by Medicare or employer purchased plans. Most are not concerned about not having insurance. They have had their health care disrupted and perhaps torn apart by Obamacare with no benefit at all. Most of America is in some way worse off as a result
Further, those that were forced to buy insurance got the proverbial pig in a poke, an extremely expensive polk. They got coverage, but very expensive and worthless coverage.
Nothing the Republican effort can do will make it worse.
Those here whining are pretty much against a government that acts in any fashion towards the health care industry. They are a minority whose voices will never be heard or acted on.
When I consider the uninsured, I think of the TV program The Wire. It is concerned with various groups in Baltimore, the street people, the cops, the politicians, the dockworkers. Primary are the black row house street dwellers. I can state unequivocally that none of those street people have Obamacare. They not only have no money, they lack the initiative and ability too make the purchase. Those without insurance just don’t give a damn and never will. To pander to their theoretical needs is stupidity.
> But at least Republicans are offering something concrete.
I guess I missed that part. What I see possible is
1) nobody should lose insurance
2) money flow is even more complicated
3) when things go bad there’s even more ability to spread the blame (see 2)
4) nothing to lower health care costs
5) little reason to think health insurance costs will go down
6) insurance companies may be more “payment agents” than “insurance providers”
7) Republicans are co-owners so they’ll work with Ds to “fix” it (more tax $$$)
It’s better than Obamacare. It’s possible that it works out well. It’s also possible that the only “fix” in a few years is to either admit they were wrong and should have repealed the entire thing and start over, or go to single payer.
Here’s a concrete plan
1) repeal Obamacare
2) government-paid/single-payer high-catastrophic coverage. limit yearly & lifetime risks for insurers on any patient - a high limit, not what you or I would buy but still a cap to insurer’s risk per-patient
3) insurers can provide everything from full-care to below-high-catastrophic coverage. they don’t make a profit by moving money but by selling market-driven policies.
I’m not for single-payer in general, but limiting insurers’ yearly and lifetime risk makes pre-existing conditions coverage possible as well as making all calculations easier for the insurer. It’s not unreasonable for everyone to share risk (at the $million+ lifetime level) through taxes since we all have that possibility.
And the cost to taxpayers (in taxes and premiums) is not more than the mess we are getting into with the complex system being set up. And we get accountability, transparency and ability to modify government costs (adjust yearly/lifetime limits). The mess we are getting doesn’t allow us to easily see what money is doing when it goes through different paths and we have no idea what to adjust to make it more useful or less expensive.
Then the Republican Boy Scouts are trying to re-write an unlawful law into a real plan using "regular order", a concept foreign to Chuckie and SanFranNan. No wonder it's screwed up.
Does it matter since no one reads the IBD and all citizens have forgotten this and no one is reminding them of this?
Like a tree that fell in the woods.
Fakenews
If what actually happened was 'the plan' - - it appears intent was to offer the best and cheapest 'insurance' for ghetto dwellers and pay for it with forced high healthcare taxes on the working class.
Whether the motive was racial rage or an assumption 'if the middle class was damaged they would fight for universal health care' or whatever - is not known. Assigning Arab refugee in disproportionately high numbers around perceived 'racist' neighbors around Stone Mountain etc could be seen as a similar attack on working class whites.
Racial hatred of whites is a possible motive for the "ObamaCare' style of lies... little else explains the gulf between the promise and the reality.
Color me skeptical.
There are plenty of lies told to sell the Republican bill.
First up: the bill repeals ACA. The fact is the bill amends ACA.
Secondly: the bill repeals the individual mandate. The fact is the mandate remains, the penalty for non-compliance has been set to zero.
Thirdly: the bill repeals the business mandate. The fact is the mandate remains, the penalty for non-compliance has been set to zero.
etc etc etc
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Rule#1.........Congress needs to be on the same plan that is passed onto everyone else.
And that’s why it’s not going to be passed. It’s like they didn’t learn anything from CAFE standards, always have some happy bunny crap in the first 2 years and back load the ugly stuff to the next administration. It’s like they didn’t even read the law they’re trying to repeal.
OK, let’s all make sure we understand what a “per-existing” condition is. A per-existing condition is one for which the insured first received treatment when he was not insured. He chose not to be insured and up pops his cancer diagnosis. If he had been insured, it would not have been a per-existing condition. and, virtually all employer plans assume responsibility for illnesses which were diagnosed when the prior insurance was in force.