Posted on 05/03/2017 8:48:47 AM PDT by Academiadotorg
The Left has predictably objected to the Trump Administration's proposal to, in essence, offer federal vouchers to American children in order to attend the school of their choice. Nevertheless, there is some division on the right about the wisdom of this approach.
"Every spending increase has been accompanied by a plethora of federal regulations," Tom Carroll, the president of Invest in Education, said last week at a forum co-sponsored by The Fordham Institute and the Hoover Institution. "Tax credits come with fewer restrictions." And he's for it.
"Research shows vouchers come with more federal regulations than tax credits but tax credits also come with regulations," Neil McCluskey of the Cato Institute pointed out in the debate with Carroll at the Hoover/Fordham forum. "They regulate the accreditors."
"There are 61 school choice programs with 450,000 students in the United States," McCluskey points out. "Don't increase the federal role in education when states are having so much success," he advises.
Indeed, the next day at the Cato Institute, at another forum which McClusky presided over, Vicki Alger of the Independent Institute pointed out that Arizona, where she resides, is home to both a plethora of school choice programs and student achievements. Arizona eighth graders, she notes, made the greatest math gains in the country.
Alger doesn’t support federal vouchers either.
The Feds should be out of education outside of providing funds to the States. The only stipulation for those funds should be a voucher program. No voucher program, no federal funds.
End federal involvement in funding education but pass a federal civil right under the auspices of the 14th’s “poi” clause (that the several States my not disparage) in support of school choice and homeschooling as options available to parents.
Funding private schools?
How much of this would go to jihadi educational institutions?
School choice and homeschooling are already options available to parents.
Then keeping the States from either preventing them or burdening homeschoolers hurts no one ... but those who want out kids.
Then keeping the States from either preventing them or burdening homeschoolers hurts no one ... but those who want out kids.
I don't see that in the Constitution. I also don't see it as being efficient. States should cut out the middleman and raise their own funds.
It is a TROJAN HORSE. We need the Feds OUT OF the indoctrination system—totally. That is why we have masses of ignorant socialist snowflakes-—because the Dept. of Ed. is a brainwahsing system which destroys individualism and free will in children—EXACTLY as the system was designed to do.
RETURN ALL SCHOOLS TO LOCAL CONTROL (even curricula) AND PARENTS. LOWER TAXES and get rid of the Marxist income tax and ALL the BUREAUCRACIES, SO ALL PARENTS CAN AFFORD TO CARE and EDUCATE THEIR OWN CHILDREN.
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The Feds should be out of education outside of providing funds to the States. The only stipulation for those funds should be a voucher program. No voucher program, no federal funds.
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Might want to get a new keyboard; it typed way beyond your correct statement after the 7th word...
It’s simply *amazing* the number of ‘issues’ and ‘problems’ that disappear should Fedzilla be its rightful size.
Even MORE fade when/if the Fed were to protect our Rights from the State.
Easiest solution: Return education to the service object it is. ‘Pay to play’, same as college+.
No kids\kids out of age bracket = no paying (@ least until the loan is paid off).
Else, hire/fire @ will. Parents/kids determine 8yrs is enough (and was quite the education until ‘publik skools’), enjoy your endeavors.
Sure, yes, there should be (minimal) standards...but, they will be upheld/enforced by the one(s) writing the CHECK(s).
Why should the people be taxed by the federal government so that the federal government can “give” money to the states to “give” to the people? Where is this lunacy in the Constitution?
There should be NO government schools.
Not in every state.
What states forbid homeschooling or private schools?
GWBush introduced something in education akin to “no child left behind” reforms, for increasing academic standards and achievement in K-12 schools, at the state level when he was governor of Texas.
Yet, he was really no Conservative on this when he became president.
If “no child left behind” was a good thing, the Conservative “advancement” of the idea was not that the federal government should do it - with all the regulatory ties to obtaining the money for it. What was needed, simply, was/is for states to do something similar. Nothing was stopping them, not even the federal government.
GWBush did, in education and other areas, what many Conservatives do when they reach federal office. They grasp the power of the deep state, regulatory state the progressives created and use its power of imposing “solutions” for what they think are good ends. They fail to understand that good government is not a focus of hoped for ends alone, but judges the means alone as representing good government. Turning the federal government into a federalism destroying centralized national state is not a “good”.
Things that are the in the natural scheme of state and local control - like education, public safety & criminal justice, and others - need to be left as state and local governance issues, not sources of expanding federal power.
I would rather that the money the district gets from me be available to me for my kids education.
As it is now, I am paying twice. Once in taxes to the local school district, and once in tuition at my kid’s private school.
The public school wants to charge me a surcharge because they are not there. Seems they lose some federal funding because they are not in the public school system, and view that as “stealing from public schools”.
Yes, I’m aware of what the Constitution states and the Feds should be completely out of the education, period. But I’m keenly aware that the likelihood of that happening completely is zilch.
16 years ago we had the same discussion for Bush’s “faith based initiative”, and the answer is still the same: federal dollars come with federal strings, if not this administration then the next. That’s how it always works, that’s actually how we WANT it to work (think about all the things you’d rather your tax dollars not teach the kids, there you go).
If it isn’t a Trojan Horse now, you can bet that Democrats will try to use vouchers as a Trojan Horse later.
It will still be better than the current system.
Best system of all, though would be take funding to the lowest level of government possible.
Regulations, inspections, harassment, etc. Some in “conservative” states.
“The U.S. Constitution poses no meaningful threat to our present form of government.”—Joseph Sobran
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