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JAW-DROPPING: Coal's Colossal Comeback (35,000 jobs added since October)
Doug Ross @ Journal ^ | April 19, 2017 | Stephen Moore

Posted on 04/19/2017 10:37:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Cheap” natural gas is only cheaper than coal because of a huge number of unfair restrictions put on coal, coal users, and coal development.

When coal, coal burning plants, and other uses of coal are unshackled, then the idea of “cheap” is going out the window for natural gas.

Also, methanol is coal-based gasohol and it burns very cleanly. It’s development was curtailed due to over regulation.


21 posted on 04/20/2017 5:34:06 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not all Coal jobs are coming back. The power plants have already converted to gas.


22 posted on 04/20/2017 5:57:48 AM PDT by chopperman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just a couple of notes to tamp down the hype. The 35,000 mining jobs includes oil and gas extraction. Rig counts are rising so much of that mining total is tied to drilling. Coal mining jobs are up about 1,000 to 50,300 since Oct-16.


23 posted on 04/20/2017 6:22:35 AM PDT by oincobx
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Coal rocks !


24 posted on 04/20/2017 6:45:25 AM PDT by johnk (faithful with little....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But they said coal workers have moved on and won't return to the mines! Those jobs are lost forever! </sarc>
25 posted on 04/20/2017 7:42:01 AM PDT by Gamecock ("We always choose according to our greatest inclination at the moment." R.C. Sproul)
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To: nathanbedford
The “use” of Entitlements will necessarily reduce as jobs become more attractive to these people currently willing to subsist on freebies or retirement.
26 posted on 04/20/2017 7:57:19 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Celtic Conservative

Those nork peckers and their coal mining makes me think that if they don’t stop, Korea will become an Island instead of a peninsula. Lol


27 posted on 04/20/2017 7:58:58 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (what a mess we got ourselves into)
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To: Paulie

absolutely the left consciously and maliciously decided to destroy the coal industry with complete and utter malice... Payback probably for WV costing AL Gore the white house in 2000....

Reality isn’t that FL gave the White House to Bush, it was the fact Bush flipped WV... Democrats have been engaging in political suicide for over 20 years... and they just can’t seem to realize it. in 2000 it cost them the White House in WV... in 2016 it cost them the White House as PA, MI & WI followed WV lead...


28 posted on 04/20/2017 8:02:41 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: BobL

Hate to break this to you, but if you think a coal miner clears 6 figures, you clearly have never visited a coal town.


29 posted on 04/20/2017 8:05:39 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: okie 54

Coal Miners never voted for Obama... sadly some of them did vote for various democrat minions, but Obama never took any region of the country where Coal was an economic player.... Lost WV twice and never carried any part of appalachia that depended on coal... Why do you thin Hillary and the Dems were so arrogant in 16? They really though they didn’t need to waste time on white folk any more... which was beyond stupid... single biggest voting block the dems have are working class whites, and they have been actively destroying them for decades... t finally bit them on the arse.. would have long long ago had Republicans not been owned by the same globalist backing swine as the dems.

R’s could have taken the upper midwest a long time ago had they gone against open borders and “free trade” deals that are anything but.


30 posted on 04/20/2017 8:08:37 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

I can’t speak for the towns, but this pretty much supports what I stated (from 7 years ago, by the way):

http://abcnews.go.com/US/Mine/west-virginia-coal-miners-allure-dangerous-profession/story?id=10305839


31 posted on 04/20/2017 8:18:58 AM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: chopperman

Newest version of coal plants are not like the old. Can switch between coal syn-gas or natural gas burning operation. Lignite fueled (Allam Cycle) North Dakota plants will deliver 52% efficiency once on-line.

Capital costs projected about $1000 per watt capacity, which leads to a 350 megawatt installation for $350 million —breaking-ground to electrical generation within two years. Compare that costing relative to building a nuclear, or a combined cycle natural gas plant.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2017/02/21/revolutionary-power-plant-captures-all-its-carbon-emissions-at-no-extra-cost/#1be69693402d

http://bismarcktribune.com/business/local/n-d-coal-bullish-on-future-of-carbon-restrained-world/article_43a652a4-6549-50af-901c-dc9d9885d5b2.html

https://www.dakotagas.com/News-Center/News-Briefs/carbon-solutions-tour-giving-closer-look-at-Allam-Cycle-demonstration-plant


32 posted on 04/20/2017 9:27:28 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If we are to accept the premise that coal, oil, and natural gas are “fossil fuels” consisting of dead prehistoric flora and fauna deposited in the earth and “cooked” for billions of years, then it’s all 100% Natural, Organic, and a “Gift from Planet Earth”.

It is not, however, “Fragrance-Free”, but nearly ALL natural products are not fragrance-free either! LOL!

Eco-Nazis want us poor, malnourished, cold, and living in the dark. In the days prior to the use of fossil fuel, our energy was derived from LIVING creatures. (Tallow and whale oil), but we had to KILL them to get at it.


33 posted on 04/20/2017 10:09:00 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: All

Excellent!!!


34 posted on 04/20/2017 10:18:08 AM PDT by veracious (UN = OIC = Islam ; Democrats may change USAgov completely, just amend USConstitution)
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To: oincobx
"Buried in an otherwise-humdrum jobs report was the jaw-dropping pronouncement by the Department of Labor that mining jobs in America were up by 11,000 in March. Since the low point in October 2016, and following years of painful layoffs in the mining industry, the mining sector has added 35,000 jobs."

I don't think oil and gas extraction are considered mining.

35 posted on 04/20/2017 11:01:49 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

IN THE MEANWHILE, has ANYONE noticed that the price of gasoline has risen around .30 per gallon ?


36 posted on 04/20/2017 11:10:46 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

The globalists fixed that “problem”. We export oil, for about a year now. No more crude surpluses and downward price pressure.


37 posted on 04/20/2017 11:13:21 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

>>>I don’t think oil and gas extraction are considered mining.

They are considered mining in the BLS data produced by the Labor Department.

“The Mining sector comprises establishments that extract naturally occurring mineral solids, such as coal and ores; liquid minerals, such as crude petroleum; and gases, such as natural gas. The term mining is used in the broad sense to include quarrying, well operations, beneficiating (e.g., crushing, screening, washing, and flotation), and other preparation customarily performed at the mine site, or as a part of mining activity.”

Data can be found here

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t17.htm


38 posted on 04/20/2017 11:13:33 AM PDT by oincobx
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To: UCANSEE2

China is buying our petroleum products.


39 posted on 04/20/2017 11:14:56 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: chopperman

A lot of power plants can switch between coal and NG.


40 posted on 04/20/2017 11:15:58 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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