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'Swedish Conditions': Diagnosing a Deadly Disorder and Why 80% of Swedes Disapprove of Trump
Frontpage Mag ^ | 04/10/2017 | Bruce Bawer

Posted on 04/12/2017 12:37:25 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Will last Friday's terror attack in Stockholm change Swedish attitudes toward Islam? Not likely. Pretty much all of Europe has spent the last few decades undergoing (steady) Islamization, but the invasion has progressed so much further in Sweden than in almost every other country on the continent – and has occasioned so much less frank reportage, commentary, and criticism, that brave souls in Sweden's Scandinavian neighbors, Denmark and Norway – routinely make disparaging reference to “Swedish conditions.” What this term refers to is not only the drastic social and economic changes currently underway in the country that once proudly called itself Folkhemmet, “the people's home,” but the mentality – a mentality not unique to Sweden, but certainly more fully developed there, in the government, media, academy, police, and the public at large, than anywhere else in Europe – that has made this dread transformation possible. 

A few recent news items provide illustrative examples of what it means to be living under “Swedish conditions”: 

But no recent event or telecast provided a more illuminating picture of “Swedish conditions” than the April 3 episode of Horisont, a 60 Minutes-type series on Danish TV. (The fact that Danish TV airs such programs while Swedish TV does not is itself, of course, a telling reflection of “Swedish conditions.”) 

The central figure on the Horisont episode was Eva Ek Törnberg, an ethnic Swede who not only lives in Seved, an immigrant-heavy district of Malmö, but is known as the “Queen of Seved” because of her decades-long efforts to cozy up to her Muslim neighbors and help them become full members of Swedish society. 

On Horisont, however, she admits that her attitudes have changed over time. She used to call herself a “citizen of the world” and to champion open borders – now she looks around and finds herself thinking: “What has happened to my little Sweden?” She once thought it was “nonsense” to expect newcomers to learn Swedish – now she feels otherwise. Yes, she still believes in letting these people in by the truckload – but she no longer warms as she once did to the idea of a “multicultural society.” She perseveres in her attempt to bring Muslims into the Swedish fold – but she's increasingly frustrated and confused by her lack of success. As she puts it, she's curious about these people's lives – why are they so indifferent to hers? 

Yet she doesn't want to complain too much – because, as she puts it, “one doesn't want to be linked to the Sweden Democrats,” those universally anathematized residents of “the people's home” who actually dare to criticize Islam out loud and to support immigration controls. (And who, by the way, are on the verge of becoming the country's largest party.) For all her disillusionment, moreover, Eva is still capable of getting teary-eyed about the utopian prospect of ethnic Swedes and Muslim immigrants working together to find a solution to their problems. For her, psychologically, the idea that Islam is the problem is plainly a bridge too far. 

Cutting from Malmö to Stockholm, Horisont introduces us to another woman. Zeliha Delgi, originally from Turkey and apparently single, is a self-described feminist who came to Sweden decades ago precisely because she wanted to live in a country that offered completely equal rights for women. At first, Zeliha says, Sweden was “the perfect land for me.” But then Rinkeby, where she lived, began to fall under the control of the Muslim “moral police.” The real cops – the Swedish cops – backed off, allowing the “moral police” to do their nasty work with increasing arrogance and authority. Patrolling the streets, these theological gendarmes would see Zeliha out at a café, sipping coffee – a woman, alone – and order her to go home. There was nothing she could do but obey. And as time went by, the situation just got worse and worse. And the Swedish authorities were beyond worthless, washing their hands of the whole business – lest, of course, they be perceived as Islamophobic. Eventually Zeliha moved to a non-Muslim part of Stockholm, where she can dress as she wants and go where she wants without anybody giving her grief or ordering her around. She has – and this was the word she used – freedom. 

For now, anyway. 

Horisont didn't tell us what to think about what it was showing us. But the point was clear. Naive ethnic Swedes like Eva, who put out the welcome mat for those despicable “moral police” and their ideological ilk, have ruined more and more parts of Sweden for people like Zeliha, who came to Sweden in search of individual liberty, sexual equality, human rights, and the rule of law. As one wise blogger put it, Eva – who is “honest, provincial, and naive” – is the very personification of today's Sweden. She hasn't “thought deeply about anything” – and, as a result, her country has been made a “hostage to her dreams.” One might add that while Eva sees very clearly where her dreams have led, she still can't fully let go of them. Terrified as she is of being mistaken for a (gasp) Sweden Democrat, she's doubtless even more appalled by the idea of Donald Trump – for while Trump is, in fact, exactly the kind of leader Sweden needs if it hopes to step back from the brink of disaster, most Swedes (who, on the whole, continue to be more worried about being considered racists than about losing their country to Islam) reject Trump outright. A March poll found him to be more unpopular in Sweden than any politician ever, from any country, with 80 percent of Swedes giving him a thumbs-down and only 10 percent – those Sweden Democrat types, you know – liking him. (Here's a taste of “Swedish conditions” for you: when Trump announced his temporary ban on immigration from certain Muslim countries, Swedish foreign minister Margot Wallström retaliated by banning Israelis from entering Sweden.)

So it goes. On March 9, Jerzy Sarnecki, a criminology professor at Stockholm University, said that the precipitous rise in violence among Muslim gangs in Swedish cities has nothing – nothing, mind you! – to do with Islam or immigration: no, it's all caused by social ills that are, in turn, the fault of Swedish society at large. Another criminology professor, Leif G. W. Persson, blamed gang violence on the police. 

The only places in Sweden where you can find out what's really going on are online – a handful of alternative news and commentary websites, plus Facebook and other social media, where Swedes share with one another details and (yes) graphic images that the mainstream media systematically cover up. On Sunday, the editor-in-chief of Expressen, Thomas Mattsson, devoted his column to what he apparently thought was the important takeaway from last Friday's terrorist act: namely, the threat to Swedish society represented by those rogue online spaces. “The criticism that can – and should! – he formulated right now,” he wrote, “is about social media.” He added that “the reputable, constitutionally protected Swedish media,” which are “responsible” and respectful of “professional ethics,” and the independent online media – media whose offense, in his eyes, is obviously that they pull back the curtain on “Swedish conditions” – “could not be greater.”

A March 11 editorial in the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten succinctly spelled out the whole problem with “Swedish conditions”: what should “most worry Sweden's neighbors,” the paper's editors wrote, is the Swedes' “unwillingness to openly and honestly discuss the government-approved multicultural idyll....In the long run, the mendacity that characterizes the Swedish debate cannot be maintained. The discrepancy between the official, idealized version of Sweden, 'the people's home,' and the brutal reality that everyone can see has simply become too great.” 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: islam; sweden
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1 posted on 04/12/2017 12:37:25 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

So much of Europe seems to be in need of a special suicide watch.

Can’t help those who won’t help themselves.

Europe is looking more and more like a Middle-East unification in short order.


2 posted on 04/12/2017 12:42:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: SeekAndFind

My Danish Son-in-Law says they despise it.


3 posted on 04/12/2017 12:46:33 PM PDT by CptnObvious
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To: SeekAndFind

The Swedes will eventually be exterminated.

It is the will of Allah (and the Swedish Social Democrat Party).


4 posted on 04/12/2017 12:49:46 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: SeekAndFind

Sweeden - the nation of stupid.


5 posted on 04/12/2017 12:49:59 PM PDT by TheBattman (Gun control works - just ask Chicago...)
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To: SeekAndFind
Once there came a customer into the store and asked, "Kan jag få två smørgåssar?" (May I have two sandwitches). The store-clerk then asked, "Are you Swedish?" whereupon the customer said, " er det fordi jag sa 'smørgåssar de skjønnte at jag var svensk?" (is it because I said 'smørgåssar' i.e. the swedish word for sandwitch, you knew I was a Swede).

The clerk made a cunning smirk, "no, it is because you're in a hardware store."
6 posted on 04/12/2017 12:51:02 PM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: TheBattman

More than stupid. They’re also suicidal.


7 posted on 04/12/2017 12:51:11 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: SeekAndFind
she no longer warms as she once did to the idea of a “multicultural society.”

...the Swedes' “unwillingness to openly and honestly discuss the government-approved multicultural idyll..."

I have some bad news for the dewy-eyed multicultis: Islam is not multicultural nor does it intend to tolerate more cultures than its own in Dar-al-Islam. "If we are tolerant toward others they'll be tolerant toward us" is a suicidal, nursery-school absurdity that most normal people grow out of by the time they learn to read.

8 posted on 04/12/2017 12:53:29 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: DoughtyOne

Europe’s taxes are so high that most working couples opt for only one or two children. Muslims, on the other hand, draw welfare for four wives and 20 children and fill up the schools.

If European countries want their cultures to survive, they need to get rid of Muslims and drastically cut taxes and services.


9 posted on 04/12/2017 12:59:12 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: SeekAndFind

You know the old saw about conservatives are liberals who have been mugged.

Europe is beyond that now.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/260971/muslim-refugee-tries-rape-swedish-woman-she-feels-daniel-greenfield

People who stay in continental europe have no future other than to be slaves for moslems or Putin, probably both.


10 posted on 04/12/2017 1:04:29 PM PDT by Reverend Wright (Build the wall !)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

You make some powerful points there don’t you.

Seems to me we’ve done things along the same lines with our illegals. Fortunately they aren’t setting off bombs and driving vehicles through crowds.

As for taxes and their impact on our family sizes, I think that an other things contribute to our birth rates being suppressed.

That MUST change. Absolutely must!


11 posted on 04/12/2017 1:08:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: DoughtyOne

The key word is “denial.”

Denial that those thousands of immigrants may not have the same beliefs as you and that it will be YOU who changes and not them.

Denial that “everyone is blissfully happy under socialism” is not always true. See above point.


12 posted on 04/12/2017 1:08:37 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

Yes, denial is the key word.

What I’m reading and seeing, I don’t know how you can miss the implications.


13 posted on 04/12/2017 1:15:12 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe all those “dumb Swede” jokes were true. After all, handing out freebies to potential terrorists isn’t exactly a sign of intelligence, and the welfare state is not a particularly bright idea, either. It is stupidity masking as sophistication.


14 posted on 04/12/2017 1:21:16 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: DoughtyOne
There tends to be a lot of denial in socialism and communism. Both tend to sap initiative and individual thought.

The collective and those in “central planning” who run it, know what is best for the rest.

15 posted on 04/12/2017 1:22:02 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: SeekAndFind

They believe their media . We believe our eyes and ears


16 posted on 04/12/2017 1:22:42 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse (America First !)
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To: CptnObvious
"My Danish Son-in-Law says they despise it."

Despise what? Sweden? Islam? Political correctness?
17 posted on 04/12/2017 1:25:05 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: SeekAndFind
Die faster you stupid Swedish bastards. Die more quickly so your land can be used by decent people after it is taken back from the savages.

Get out of the way and let the fight for your lands commence!

18 posted on 04/12/2017 1:30:13 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Efn crazy people. They worry the neighbour is a rich capitalist teaching his kids
martial arts while the children in their own home are getting molested by the kid/uncle they adopted...


19 posted on 04/12/2017 1:30:26 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucifiedc)
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To: SeekAndFind
Sweden is a large, outdoor Nuthouse.

Of course the Swedes disapprove of President Trump. He's sane. They're nuts.

To the insane the sane appear insane.

20 posted on 04/12/2017 1:34:40 PM PDT by Savage Beast (MegaMAGA!)
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