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My inability to purchase a basic allergy medicine shows everything wrong with socialist healthcare
Conservative Review ^ | 04/10/2017 | Daniel Horowitz

Posted on 04/10/2017 3:58:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Want to know why our health care system, sponsored by venture socialism and crony capitalism, looks like a mini-bar in a hotel room and not like Amazon? Here is my most recent experience with this dysfunctional system, owned and operated by the government or those empowered by government intervention.

My original “Healthy Blue” insurance plan from CareFirst of Maryland for my family of five cost $425 a month, subject to a $5,000 deductible, and covered most doctor visits and generic drugs. I didn’t mind paying the rest out of the pocket, even though those costs were already too high and distorted even before Obamacare. The lower premium was worth it. In came Obamacare and tripled my premium in return for a $13,100 deductible and less coverage!
Pay more get less chart

Thankfully, I’m healthy and my biggest ailment is the dreaded spring hay fever. The over-the-counter drugs and nasal sprays never work, but I got a prescription for Qnasl, which has worked for me in the past. Yet even though I already knew what I needed, I had to schedule an appointment with the allergist to get the prescription, because thanks to state regulations, I couldn’t rely on my visit two years ago and simply phone in this no-brainer prescription.

Thus, I took off time from work to over-utilize health care and charge the card for a visit just to get a prescription I already knew I needed —all for a spray that should be available over the counter anyway. Given that I’m a healthy male in my 30s with nothing to diagnose, the allergist and I did nothing other than talk about the dysfunctional state of America’s socialist health care and how my visit demonstrated the point. After a few minutes of small talk, costing me $40 and the insurance company well over $100, I went off to the pharmacy to fill the prescription. I was in for a surprise.

The pharmacist informed me that insurance was demanding a pre-authorization letter from the doctor in order to cover a nasal spray! I then had the allergist fax in an authorization letter, but CareFirst rejected it, asserting that I must try out a cheaper nasal spray first, Dymista. So after paying an enormous premium that doesn’t even cover much of the prescription anyway, I was informed that the company now controls the decisions about my health and medicines that should be up to me and my doctor. As such, I decided to pay out of pocket for the Qnasl. “Oh, that will be $230,” said the pharmacist.

Don’t get me wrong. I’d love to pay everything aside from catastrophic care out of pocket…so long as I can purchase catastrophic insurance and not pay a second mortgage for premiums and deductibles. But if I’m going to pay that much in premiums thanks to the Obamacare regulations Republicans love, you better believe I’m not also going to pay $230 for a nasal spray.

Next, I got a coupon from the doctor in hopes of discounting the price of the Qnasl and offered it to the pharmacist. The coupon knocked down the price of the Qnasl to $130. I told her to hold onto it for the time being and that I would first try out Dymista, the cheaper drug that CareFirst was recommending. When I came back the next day with the prescription for the less effective drug that the insurance company would actually be willing to cover, I was told the cost, even with insurance coverage, would be $180, only slightly less than the “cutting edge” Qnasl I was paying for out of pocket and actually $50 more than the price of the Qnasl with my coupon.

When I told the pharmacist technician that I’d opt for the Qnasl after all because it was actually cheaper, she told me the insurance company wouldn't let me buy it. Already frustrated, I told her that the pharmacist told me the day before I could pay out of pocket with my coupon and not go through insurance. The woman, who barely spoke English (a growing trend in pharmacies, I’ve noticed), mumbled something that it can’t be done. I just threw up my hands and left.

That is where I am today.

Folks, we’re not talking about heart medicine or life-saving cancer drugs. We’re talking about a nasal spray! I pay another mortgage in order to pay a $13,100 deductible … in order to have insurance block what I can obtain and not even pay for most of what it claims to cover. And given that CareFirst has essentially become a zombie government-sponsored entity with no profit motive or need to compete, its customer service is worse than the DMV, so I can’t exactly lodge a complaint. 

The opportunity for Republicans to articulate a holistic vision of health care

This story demonstrates everything that is wrong with our system and how the big government/big pharma complex is to blame.

Rather than put out passive-aggressive tweets becoming of a junior high girl (and telling members details don’t matter), President Trump should relentlessly use the bully pulpit to drive home every negative and insolvent aspect of Obamacare.  

A few thoughts on policy are in order:

This is America, not Venezuela. We have a right to private enterprise, private property, and the right to engage in contracts or offer services unencumbered by government regulations. We have the right to pursue health care directly between consumers and providers without government, lobbyists, and insurance companies (the ones propped up by government) getting in the way.

My story is not unique. Almost everyone in the middle class faces the same predicament, particularly those who don’t obtain insurance from their jobs. Why is it so hard for Republicans to articulate a vision for free market health care? The GOP suffers from the ultimate pre-existing condition: political malpractice. Republicans are turning Obamacare into a losing issue, despite the damage it has wrought and how it has affected every ordinary family.

Rather than put out passive-aggressive tweets becoming of a junior high girl (and telling members details don’t matter), President Trump should relentlessly use the bully pulpit to drive home every negative and insolvent aspect of Obamacare.  

And about that mini-bar — at least the prices are posted, the food is accessible, and there is a semblance of a menu — something that cannot be said of our venture socialist health care system, from which our political class refuses to divorce itself.


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1 posted on 04/10/2017 3:58:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Repeal period

do not repair, do not replace.


2 posted on 04/10/2017 4:07:45 PM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt; Dad's wisdom)
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To: SeekAndFind

but CareFirst rejected it, asserting that I must try out a cheaper nasal spray first, Dymista

Get your Lawyer and FILE Formal Criminal Charges against your Insurance Company for Practicing Medicine without a License.


3 posted on 04/10/2017 4:07:46 PM PDT by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: SeekAndFind

democrat nanny-ism and Republican snowflakes make idiocy possible.


4 posted on 04/10/2017 4:13:02 PM PDT by soycd
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To: SeekAndFind

My example...

I was at Dollar Tree. They had a generic allergy pill 10 for 1 dollar. If I wanted to buy the generic at Wallgreens it is about $4 for a pack of 10. If I want the name brand it is about $10 for a pack of 10.

If I got a prescription through crap Obamacare it would be $70 for a pack of 10 because they aren’t covered.


5 posted on 04/10/2017 4:13:07 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Flinging poo is not a valid argument)
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To: SeekAndFind

Can he not just take some generic Allegra and generic Flonase from Walmart?

I pay about $7 bucks for the generic Flonase, but if you get the multi-pak at Sam’s it’s about $4 a bottle. Each bottle has 160 sprays.


6 posted on 04/10/2017 4:13:26 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (https://medium.com/@Cernovich/here-is-the-full-60-minutes-interview-transcript-with-mike-cernovich-a)
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To: SeekAndFind

Our prescription insurance does not want to cover the insulin my DH has been prescribed by his dr. In the past we have just gotten letters suggesting we speak with the dr for another option. This week we got a letter saying they will not pay for that brand of insulin any more. Our CoPay was 125 dollars.

AACCCKKK!


7 posted on 04/10/2017 4:13:34 PM PDT by grame (May you know more of the love of God Almighty this day!)
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To: SeekAndFind

8 posted on 04/10/2017 4:18:55 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: SeekAndFind
The woman, who barely spoke English (a growing trend in pharmacies, I’ve noticed), mumbled something that it can’t be done. I just threw up my hands and left.

In clear, unaccented English, tell the (most likely Illegal) pharmacy "technician", "I wish to speak to a manager or the Pharmacist. Now."

I don't take that crap from Hispanic drones. And I've been in similar situations. Do not back down.

9 posted on 04/10/2017 4:19:35 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Good judgement comes from experience. And experience? Well, that comes from poor judgement.)
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To: taxcontrol; unkus; MinuteGal; ZULU; Liz; HarleyLady27; sheik yerbouty; flat; vette6387; NFHale; ...

The REPLACE must be the hacks in Congress who failed to REPEAL the RAT garbage called ObamaCare aka DEATHCARE.


10 posted on 04/10/2017 4:21:42 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Bodleian_Girl
Can he not just take some generic Allegra and generic Flonase from Walmart?

That's completely beside the point. Why can't he get what works best for him, without restrictions and demands and punitive charges imposed by a disinterested third party?

11 posted on 04/10/2017 4:27:22 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: SeekAndFind

Did you fill out the correct form? In triplicate? Do it over, and get back in line and get approval from the department of allergy medicine approval department? And submit it for review to the cost review board? Stand in line and wait for your number A26, presently serving C99.
And let’s have a look-see at that ol’ voting record... shall we?


12 posted on 04/10/2017 4:27:44 PM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF OBAMACARE REPEAL THAT IS WORSE THAN KEEPING IT ONE MORE DAY***)
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To: SeekAndFind

We have an HSA w/ high deductibles but the tax benefit for cash payments on our health care, including things like allergy meds. Then come ObambiCare that disqualified purchase of OTC meds, so I was forced to pay for my Zyrtec and other basic health medicines out of pocket and off the HSA.
Recently, I asked my doctor about it, and she wrote me a prescription for a Zyrtec generic, as well as for the low-dose aspirin she wants me to take. I can now pay for both via the HSA b/c it’s RX, and, get this, they cost less than the commercial OTC versions.
It’s all so incredibly stupid.


13 posted on 04/10/2017 4:28:58 PM PDT by nicollo (MAGA)
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To: SeekAndFind

A couple of weeks ago at the local pharmacy, I purchased 100 Chlor-Trimeton anti-allergy tablets for $2.99. They used to be by Rx only, and were not visible on the shelves; I had to ask if they were available.


14 posted on 04/10/2017 4:35:57 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Replace was Candidate Trump’s position. It also currently remain’s President Trump’s position.


15 posted on 04/10/2017 4:36:25 PM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt; Dad's wisdom)
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To: SeekAndFind
The health care system is worse than the mafia. Everybody in the chain gets a cut of the gravy. When I was reviewing my late father's hospital bill, they gouged everything they could out of him. One item on the bill sent me through the roof: $5 for one aspirin. At Walmart you can buy 500 for $5. Of course that was the least of his expenses by several orders of magnitude. They are all gangsters in the “health care” system, and deserve a special spot in hell.
16 posted on 04/10/2017 4:38:10 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie
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To: SeekAndFind
Rather than put out passive-aggressive tweets becoming of a junior high girl (and telling members details don’t matter), President Trump should relentlessly use the bully pulpit to drive home every negative and insolvent aspect of Obamacare.

It'd be a whole lot easier just to round up every democrat that voted for this, throw them in a steel cage, and drown them.

17 posted on 04/10/2017 4:42:28 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: FoxInSocks

If it was me, I’d try the generic stuff first, before I even went to a doctor.


18 posted on 04/10/2017 4:44:23 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (https://medium.com/@Cernovich/here-is-the-full-60-minutes-interview-transcript-with-mike-cernovich-a)
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To: SeekAndFind

You might want to check Chinese Herbs—I buy from activeherb.com -—their Nasal AllergiClear™ 200 mg 200 Tablets
10.99 works for me —It does suggest taking 5 tablets ea time you need it. They have many other products, but natural is usually better if they work.


19 posted on 04/10/2017 4:49:42 PM PDT by Mark (Celebrities... is there anything they do not know? -Homer Simpson)
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To: FoxInSocks

I don’t think insurance should cover prescriptions. Insurance is for major expenses only, not your weekly meds. And if you want the designer meds you should definitely pay for that yourself. It is like buying homeowners insurance to replace light bulbs.


20 posted on 04/10/2017 4:55:47 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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