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Massad Ayoob: 5 Things To Know After A Defensive Shooting
http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/20/massad-ayoob-5-things-to-know-after-a-defensive-shooting/#ixzz4bvESOWDn ^ | Massad Ayoob

Posted on 03/20/2017 7:19:05 PM PDT by Strac6

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To: WENDLE

You are an idiot, and a very poor student of history. The moment you continue to shoot after the threat is reasonably removed, you can and will be charged with murder.

You shoot someone after they are down on the ground and not actively moving, it’s very easy to detect, and you will be charged, and convicted.

Drag a body into your house? You need to stop watching bad movies.

Please stop with this idiotic advice. You will get a good person put into prison for what might otherwise be a justified shooting.


21 posted on 03/20/2017 7:42:25 PM PDT by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: Strac6

This advice seems to involve saying a lot of things to a police officer in the heat of a very stressful moment.

I always understood that nothing, nothing, you say to a police officer will be of the slightest benefit to you and will probably make things a hell of a lot worse.

Crimes aren’t convicted on what is said or not said to the first police officer who arrives on the scene, the police officer’s first opinion of what may or may not have happened is utterly irrelevant to your being found guilty or not.

It is in the court room where the verdict will be decided, long after the event and your attempt at self-justificatory babbling to the first cop to show up will now be dissected and analysed in court by very clever prosecutors who will be delighted to put whatever slant they like on your, by now barely recollected words, to the jury.

I always understood that what you do is shut the freak up and say nothing until such time as your legal representative has arrived, and continue to say nothing afterward, let him do the talking for you.


22 posted on 03/20/2017 7:44:05 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
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To: Strac6

Let me tell you Pal. My advice just kept some innocent person from jail. What is your advice if someone is breaking into your house on Meth to rape your 11 year old daughter. HUH? call 911? OMG


23 posted on 03/20/2017 7:45:29 PM PDT by WENDLE (DEFEAT RINOCARI . NO RINOCARE!! TRUMP WAKE UP!! Fire SESSIONS!!)
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To: PotatoHeadMick

+1, Mick.


24 posted on 03/20/2017 7:46:59 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (MAGA!!!)
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To: WENDLE

Wendle, when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. An if you’d like a cops opinion on this, you just got it from me.

CC


25 posted on 03/20/2017 7:48:25 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: PotatoHeadMick

Please reread Masod’s advice, and the REASONS FOR IT.

In the old days, total silence was good advice. No longer. If you do not tell your story first, trust me, the bad guy will tell his story, and at a minimum, you will lose big civilly.

Remember Michael Brown. All his friends were ready to tell their BS story and the PD did not get the real story out soon enough.

Tell your story, and just that story, then silence....


26 posted on 03/20/2017 7:48:36 PM PDT by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: Celtic Conservative

I appreciate your service to this country. I respect you . I will stop , Sir. No offense intended. God BLESS you every day. I will do my thing and you MUST do yours. Go man!!


27 posted on 03/20/2017 7:54:24 PM PDT by WENDLE (DEFEAT RINOCARI . NO RINOCARE!! TRUMP WAKE UP!! Fire SESSIONS!!)
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To: WENDLE

1, I am not your Pal.

2, If followed, your bubbavice will ensure an otherwise innocent man would go to jail.

3, Someone raping my daughter?. Of course I would probably NOT shoot him. The chance of an internal ricochet from two bodies in such close proximity would be to risky. I would hit him in the back of the neck with something sharp and heavy, about C-3 to C-5 to ensure I broke his neck and spinal cord, ensuring he was a quadriplegic for thew rest of his life.


28 posted on 03/20/2017 7:54:52 PM PDT by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: Celtic Conservative

Happy.... a few days late.


30 posted on 03/20/2017 7:57:29 PM PDT by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: S.O.S121.500

Thank you


31 posted on 03/20/2017 7:58:51 PM PDT by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: S.O.S121.500

Thank you....

and I’m clear the active. Have a good evening.


32 posted on 03/20/2017 7:59:48 PM PDT by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: S.O.S121.500

Nope. Happens all the time. Never let the meth head in that broken window to your daughters room — or will you? Shoot to KILL!!


33 posted on 03/20/2017 8:01:10 PM PDT by WENDLE (DEFEAT RINOCARI . NO RINOCARE!! TRUMP WAKE UP!! Fire SESSIONS!!)
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To: Strac6

Horse shit!!


34 posted on 03/20/2017 8:02:58 PM PDT by WENDLE (DEFEAT RINOCARI . NO RINOCARE!! TRUMP WAKE UP!! Fire SESSIONS!!)
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To: Strac6

That was a case of winning a publicity battle on the airwaves, not a courtroom battle.

The legal advice that I always received from lawyer friends was simple.

“Whatever you say, say nothing”.

There is no need for you to explain a thing to a police officer, that’s your lawyer’s job, he’s paid to do that sort of thing.


35 posted on 03/20/2017 8:17:09 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
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To: Nailbiter

for later read


36 posted on 03/20/2017 8:24:27 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Strac6

Thanks. I enjoyed it for a change.

CC


37 posted on 03/20/2017 8:24:46 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: WENDLE

No problem Wendle. Passion in the defense of liberty is no vice. but level headedness is what you need in a use of force situation. Mas Ayoob consulted on my agencies use of force policy. He knows what he is about. The above is good advice. Have a good night.

CC


38 posted on 03/20/2017 8:30:01 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: brucedickinson
If you're even involved in a self-defense shooting, and you can get Mr. Ayoob to be an expert for the defense, then a) it was a justified shooting, and b) YOU WILL HAVE THE BEST POSSIBLE DEFENSE EXPERT THERE IS!!!

His book, "In the Gravest Extreme" is a must have if you're going to carry a sidearm.

Mark

39 posted on 03/20/2017 9:10:50 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: MarkL
His book, "In the Gravest Extreme" is a must have if you're going to carry a sidearm.

I read that in the Eighties. His focus to me was 1. Make sure you really should be shooting if you have to and 2. stay out of jail if you have to shoot. He's the real deal.

40 posted on 03/20/2017 9:13:43 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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