Posted on 03/20/2017 7:19:05 PM PDT by Strac6
That’s the one! (see my #60)
I've trained under Ayoob, and he DOES recommend studying martial arts and hand-to-hand techniques.
His viewpoint is that the purpose of hand-to-hand techniques is to survive the first few seconds of an attack, and to create the time and distance you need to get to your weapon.
heh
“Why did you shoot him 15 times?
“Because that is my magazine capacity”
This is not true. As long as a person has given you (or another person) reasonable reason to fear for life or safety, you are justified to continue to take whatever means you need to eliminate the threat. If he is moving, you can continue to shoot. If he is a threat, then moving is considered a threat.
The fact that we have crazy DAs out there who will try to charge you for nothing is not relevant. They will try to charge you no matter what.
If (God forbid), I ever have to shoot someone, I will empty the mag, with the knowledge that I will probably be financially destroyed....at least re: assets they can find.
the book is highly useful for the mindset and psychological issues discussed,
That was always the best part, IMO.
You may not realize how right you are.
You are justified in eliminating the THREAT, but not the persons life.
The advice posted here earlier (now wisely removed by the Admin Moderator) that after the initial confrontation you should walk over and put a bullet in the prone perp’s head, then drag him into the house to try to establish a Castle Defense was in reality a plea to be indicted for murder.
“Moving” is a sticky point. Crawling away is not a threat. Trying to bring a gun to bear is.
re: The DA/SA. When you “tell your story” without answering questions, you have established playing field. Although you have the right to counsel, much greater weight is given to what is said as an “initial utterance.”
Also, someone is going to tell the cop “what happened”. That will be in his/her report. That will then be the story the media tells. Never let the other person, the other person’s friends, or in these days, even those of the perp’s “other” race make up a story to tell the cops.
As it turned out, in Ferguson, the people who claimed the LEO shot Brown unnecessarily COULD NOT have seen what happened. They were elsewhere, but because the PD didn’t tell Officer Wilson’s “story” for days, the perp’s “friends” story was the only one the media had.
Based on the fact Wilson was found not guilty, what do you mean?
Correction, the Grand Jury decided not to indict Wilson and Wilson walked.
They’re both gone. What’d they say?
Rule 1: “Be the first one to call 911”
Rule 2: “When Police arrive, have weapon on ground with your hands raised”
Rule 3: “Be respectful and cooperative”
WOW.
Paraphrasing the very bad advice that was removed:
#1: After you shoot someone and they are down, go over and shoot them again in the head. (Angle of shot, powder burns, bullet frags in ground and blood spatter would make this so obvious Stevie Wonder would see it)
#2: Drug the body inside, wipe away blood, so it will look like they broke in (attempt at Castle Defense that Luminal would detect in about 60 seconds)
These were advice that would easily get a person who might have originally used a weapon in a proper self-defense mode charged with murder.
Good work by your Admin Mod got them off ASAP!
Be well.
Had cops “told their story” early, the other side’s story would never have gotten legs.
As it is, Hands Up - Don’t Shoot is still accepted BS by many.
Good lawyers get you out of trouble.
Great lawyers keep you out of trouble in the first place.
Outstanding lawyers keep you out of trouble, and crucify the other guy so he puts his head deep in Rectal Defilade and crawls away, never to other you again.
On occasion.... ever so rarely, I was an outsta.......
:)
“In addition, has intensively researched the training of numerous police agencies including, but not limited to:
NYPD Firearms and Tactics Unit
NYPD Emergency Services Unit
NYPD Armed Robbery Stakeout Unit
LAPD SWAT
LAPD Firearms Traning Unit
Metro-Dade Police Firearms/SWAT Training Unit
Illinois State Police Ordinance Section
NH State Police SWAT
Ohio State Peace OFficer Training Academy
Arizona Highway Patrol Firearms Training
Kentucky State Police Firearms and Special Reaction Team Training
London, England Metropolitan Poice Firearms Training and Special Services Unit
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Why would doing research on training procedures be something to include as a qualification?
Just researching is something that anyone could do.
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Ed
Suit yourself.
So what? The Grand Jury decided not to indict Wilson and Wilson walked.
Had cops “told their story” early, the other side’s story would never have gotten legs.
It didn't get any legs, just media bull sh*t. Do you not understand Wilson was not indicted?
Thank you that is exactly the clip I was thinking of when I said say nothing to the police.
But don’t u understand that if cops had told their story in a timely manner, we would never have had Hands Up - Don’t Shoot, the whole DOJ investigation, BLM, the riots even any Grand Jury or anything else that minor shooting ended up triggering.
In a example of the same thing, Republicans in the House have finally learned that regardless of whomever is right, if one side is speaking and the other side is silent, the speaker wins.
The concept here, as Abood says, tell your CONTROLLED story, then lawyer-up.
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