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I'm perfectly OK with abolishing the EPA.
1 posted on 03/15/2017 2:08:56 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

A Hell of a lot richer and probably more environmentally clean. If government control and regulation were better for the environment then Capitalism, Russia would be an environmental paradise and the US would look like Russia.


2 posted on 03/15/2017 2:10:20 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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No rivers running yellow with mine waste.
No bureaucrats making up offenses.
No one trying to make CO2 a pollutant...


3 posted on 03/15/2017 2:12:35 PM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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What would the U.S. look like without the EPA?

I don't know about the EPA, but without the environmental regulations we would be a heck of a lot more polluted.

We would not be able to see the mountains in Los Angeles. As a kid growing up in Los Angeles, I did not even realize some of those mountains were there until years later when the air was finally cleaned up.

4 posted on 03/15/2017 2:12:53 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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You can almost laugh at the crying and whining if this was satire.


5 posted on 03/15/2017 2:13:37 PM PDT by wastedyears (Prophecy of sky Gods, the sun and moon)
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It would look like a country that has had it’s swamp drained thereby not requiring it any longer.


6 posted on 03/15/2017 2:13:39 PM PDT by sanjuanbob
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The EPA did good things until they ran out of causes and had to create them from nothing.

Only occasionally went beyond their duty. Of course when they did go off the rails it caused a lot of needless regulation.

Currently they are not needed and cause more harm than good.

Time for them to be eliminated.


7 posted on 03/15/2017 2:14:10 PM PDT by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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The EPA would be a great agency if they would scale back their areas of regulation to 1984 levels. For their first 10-15 years, they did great work that improved the quality of life in the USA considerably. Then, they had to expand their reach to stay relevant once the air and water was clean. By 2000 or so, they were desperate and grabbing at anything they could to keep the funding increasing.


8 posted on 03/15/2017 2:15:12 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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Without the EPA...There would be less Fed debt. Farmers would be able to do their jobs without getting crushed by a rogue agency. States and cities would be able to take care of their own environmental business. Air and water would be the same. Rivers downstream from gold mines would be clean.


9 posted on 03/15/2017 2:15:18 PM PDT by lurk (TEat)
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Every state that cares, has an environmental agency. Most counties do. Most counties and cities have zoning codes, building codes, all kinds of regulations.

The locals know where the waste dumps are.

BTW 95% of mega-fund waste dump clean-up was to problems created by the Federal government, not by private industry.


12 posted on 03/15/2017 2:18:29 PM PDT by spintreebob
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The Animas River wouldn’t be orange, that’s for sure.


13 posted on 03/15/2017 2:18:45 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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Finally some real news for a change!

Lol.

These liberals, all they have is Sheol and hysterical secular apocalypse stories.


14 posted on 03/15/2017 2:19:00 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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The Clean Air and Clean Water Acts were a great success. If only they had stopped there and not tried to seize control of the economy . . .


16 posted on 03/15/2017 2:19:56 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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Abolished ... no. Pared back to core environmental issues, like air, water, soil with no concern or policy regarding Global Warming.

I’ve seen illegal toxic waste dumps. I remember LA in the late 70’s early 80’s.


18 posted on 03/15/2017 2:20:37 PM PDT by Fhios (Right now it looks like the condemned dragging their feet on the way to the gallows.)
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Good Lord! The sky will fall and the apocalypse will be upon us if the EPA is forced to economize! The horror!!!
19 posted on 03/15/2017 2:20:40 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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What would America look like if the EPA’s reach never expanded beyond what they were in the pre-Clinton years? That is my question. Because things were pretty dirty-nasty back in the late 1960s and early 70s in Cleveland. Driving past Republic Steel was a stinky ride, although my father always said that was the smell of people with jobs. I appreciated it in that sense.


21 posted on 03/15/2017 2:21:16 PM PDT by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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And, I just read that global warming is making animals smaller!

By the time Trump finishes his second term, an elephant will be the size of a gerbil.

What a monster! Punch a Nazi!


23 posted on 03/15/2017 2:23:22 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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Probably a lot like the scenery from Dances With Wolves.


26 posted on 03/15/2017 2:25:38 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Good judgement comes from experience. And experience? Well, that comes from poor judgement.)
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EPA VASTLY OVERREACHED YEARS AGO. They no longer have moral authority, because their mission has shifted from actually being a lead agency in the effort to convince the general public better ways to manage recycling efforts, by education and example, and have become a police agency, enforcing fines and carrying out judicial activities aimed at simply STOPPING economic activity.

Regardless of any cost-benefit ratios.


27 posted on 03/15/2017 2:26:38 PM PDT by alloysteel (John Galt has chosen to take the job. This time, Atlas did NOT shrug.)
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What would the U.S. look like without the EPA?

Well, for one, home owners would be allowed to collect rain water from their roof into a water barrel.

They also would be allowed to swim in their own private ponds without being harassed by the bloated mafia EPA who would argue that it belongs to the federal government.

Farmers would be allowed to let their cattle drink from the private streams without paying a huge fee to the EPA for doing so, etc. etc.


28 posted on 03/15/2017 2:27:22 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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All b.s. States were cleaning up long before Nixons gift to socialism


31 posted on 03/15/2017 2:31:37 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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