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1 posted on 03/08/2017 7:32:28 AM PST by Helicondelta
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Brand value of the NY Times seems to be slipping.


2 posted on 03/08/2017 7:34:59 AM PST by ptsal
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They say Obama didn’t order it....so who the hell did that would benefit by it? Lynch worked for Obama and only an idiot would believe that she didn’t follow his orders. You can bet if it was a republican president this story would change drastically! I absolutely detest liberals and like to punch them all in the face...including some cousins of mine.


3 posted on 03/08/2017 7:38:11 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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Here the NYT is guilty of attempted plausable deniability. Nice Try, but FAIL.


4 posted on 03/08/2017 7:38:45 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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Ha!

And this excerpt almost incoherent in its writing.

Implosion indeed.


7 posted on 03/08/2017 7:39:21 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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And immediately below this excuse-for-a-NYTimes-Propaganda-Campaign, is the following advertisement:

The New York Times
Truth. It’s hard to find.
But easier with 1000+ journalists looking. Subscribe to The Times.

Should be:

The New York Times
Truth. It’s impossible to find with 1000+ journalists looking for ways to hide it. Unsubscribe to The Times.

8 posted on 03/08/2017 7:40:09 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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Yes, they are going to explain the “difference” between “Obama” and “Obama Administration”, and between “wiretap” and “electronic surveillance”.

Also they clearly demonstrate the difference between “lying liberal rag” and “desperately spinning two faced lying leftist newspaper run by Clinton and Obama operatives”.


9 posted on 03/08/2017 7:40:52 AM PST by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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Retreating to the fact that Obama did not personally physically go into the computer networks and place a tap on Trump’s phone lines is a new low even for the New York Times. Wow.


12 posted on 03/08/2017 7:41:12 AM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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Keep drinking heavily, NY Times staff. You’re doing great. Don’t forget to recycle the glass vodka bottles.


15 posted on 03/08/2017 7:42:50 AM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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NYT writers and editors spew out their splurge each day with one intent only - to fit the party line narrative of the day.

They are completely incapable of assessing the impact of the trash they write days and weeks down the road. It is because they live in the short term and the 24 hour news cycle - not even directing the flow of it, but responding to it via the orders they get from the higher up ghouls like Obama, Hillary and the DNC.


16 posted on 03/08/2017 7:42:52 AM PST by Gaffer
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There WAS wiretapping/bugging.
There WAS NO FISA warrant.

Draw your own conclusions.......................


17 posted on 03/08/2017 7:42:53 AM PST by Red Badger (If "Majority Rule" was so important in South Africa, why isn't it that way here?.......)
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All of the people that could have ordered it answered to Obama. Strategically, Trump should leave Obama out of it but have Sessions absolutely throw the book at whoever they can pin this on. Get them a 25 year sentence UNLESS they are willing to flip on Obama. Then it’s liberal vs liberal. Media loses.


18 posted on 03/08/2017 7:43:17 AM PST by comonbaby
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Trumps called shot.

The FAILING New York Times.


19 posted on 03/08/2017 7:43:20 AM PST by americas.best.days... ( I think we can now say that they are behind us.)
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Comb your hair Liz, or is the reason your hair is so messy because you are spinning so hard?


22 posted on 03/08/2017 7:45:42 AM PST by McGavin999
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Better if The Times helps readers understand this crucial story than let others, with flagrant political motives, do so.

Yeah, right. No one would ever accuse the NY Times of having flagrant political motives.

24 posted on 03/08/2017 7:46:13 AM PST by Petrosius
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AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO REMEMBERS THESE FISA COURT NEWS STORIES FIRST COMING OUT ABOUT 3 MONTHS AGO????

(I bet Trump knew back then, and fed them false info- like pretending they were worried about losing to hilLIARy so that she sat on her big fat ass)


27 posted on 03/08/2017 7:47:21 AM PST by Mr. K (Go Trump!)
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First of all, the fact that someone produced a transcript of a conversation between Mike Flynn and Amb. Kiryalin - a conversation that occurred at Trump Tower - is prima facie evidence that an electronic intercept occurred. If it occurred without FISA authorization, it is a violation of law, whether conducted by the FBI, the NSA or the CIA.

Secondly, since FISA affidavits are always classified at least at the SECRET level (proceeds of electronic surveillance by the NSA or CIA is classified at even higher levels), the transcript is classified at that level and dissemination of the transcript without downgrade and/or sanitization is a violation of federal law.

Ergo, there should be a paper trail a mile long. So why aren’t ADM Rogers, Jim Comey and John Brennan in a dark room with a bright light in their face answering some very difficult questions...? Oh, and strap them up to a poly while you’re at it.


28 posted on 03/08/2017 7:47:32 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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There’s a lot to parse. And doing so, in a way that is clear to readers, is not easy when the subject matter is complicated and the information that reporters receive comes under strict terms of how it can be used.

Translation:
We LIE about EVERYTHING and Make crap up as we go, sometimes it is very difficult to keep ALL THE LIES STRAIGHT!


30 posted on 03/08/2017 7:48:24 AM PST by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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Democrats throw around the word “treason” for phone calls, or meetings by associates of President Trump. But Hillary’s actions while serving as Secretary of State perfectly fits the definition of treason. Hillary’s State Department approved giving one fifth of the U.S. uranium stock to Russia, at the same time top executives of the uranium company gave Hillary $500,000 for one speech and “donated” $145 million to her foundation.

Obama and his crony Attorney General did nothing to investigate these blatant crimes. It’s clearly time for President Trump and Congress to start investigations.

If phone calls to Russians merit an investigation, what is the significance of the Clinton Foundation accepting $145 million from the Russians, while Hillary is Secretary of State and being lobbied by these same people to sell off America’s valuable resources? Or Hillary’s campaign manager’s brother lobbying on behalf of Russia’s biggest bank while his brother runs her campaign for President?


32 posted on 03/08/2017 7:49:00 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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Here is the thing NYT. You were all too happy to leave the innuendo out there when you broke these stories. You were all too happy to let the public believe that the Trump campaign was caught colluding with Russians based on info collected in an active investigation.

Trump flips it on those who tapped him. Why was a campaign monitored during an election?

Now you want to flip to: oh wait, the surveillance was accidentally obtained. Uh-huh.


33 posted on 03/08/2017 7:49:16 AM PST by FlipWilson
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I just read the entire editorial “explanation” and had the same joyous feeling I get whenever I reflect on the fact that Donald J. Trump is now my president.

It’s hilarious, Obama didn’t order any of it himself, just like Nixon never knew anything it was all Haldeman and Ehrlichman. And they ignore the fact that when listening to overseas calls, the government is supposed to stop soon after an American comes on, but this was expanded to include the Americans. Then they ignore the illegal leaks.

BTW did their sainted Obama ever even criticize the leak of the classified info his administration was collecting?

And I love, love, love the part about how Obama merely let the agencies pass this all around so as to enhance their “investigation”.

Because of course it was so honorable to be working up until the last possible second, to destroy the incoming president. /s /s /s /s

Obama is a thug and the NYT are scum democrat operatives. Duh.


34 posted on 03/08/2017 7:49:47 AM PST by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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