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Top Gunski! Moscow releases video of its latest fighter jet boasting it can destroy the best..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk ^ | 02/16/2017 | By Darren Boyle for MailOnline

Posted on 02/16/2017 8:57:42 PM PST by BackRoads775

The Russian Ministry of Defence has released a video of its latest fighter jet in an effort to drive foreign export sales.

The Kremlin wants foreign governments to buy its latest Sukhoi-35s jet instead of a western aircraft.

As part of the sales drive, the Russian Air Force released footage of a test pilot taking its Sukhoi Su-35s for a spin.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aerospace; jets; military; russia
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The Russian Military of Defence is seeking export buyers for its new fighter jet China has agreed to by 24 of the Sukhoi SU-35s fighters for around $2 billion The Sukhoi is faster and larger than the Eurofighter Typhoon used by the RAF Although the new Russian fighter is not stealthy like the American F-35
1 posted on 02/16/2017 8:57:42 PM PST by BackRoads775
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To: BackRoads775

You can be my comrade anytime. ...


2 posted on 02/16/2017 9:00:05 PM PST by Proyecto Anonimo
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To: BackRoads775

Lol. Even a hack like me can see this thing has a large radar profile. Could it beat an F35? Maybe but doubtful. An F18 Super Hornet or F22 Raptor? Not a chance.


3 posted on 02/16/2017 9:10:39 PM PST by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: piytar

Their stuff is starting to all look exactly alike.


4 posted on 02/16/2017 9:17:44 PM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: piytar

F-35 and Super Hornet, depends on pilot, circumstances, and on computers working perfectly. And it better happen BVR for the 35. Onside that, neither can out turn, accelerate, out run or out climb the Sukhoi. The 35 cannot outgun it.

The F-22 can handle the Sukhoi dependably, but we have fewer than 200.


5 posted on 02/16/2017 9:20:06 PM PST by DesertRhino
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To: BackRoads775

Just an updated Su-27.

I imagine the latest F18’s and f-16’s could hold their own.


6 posted on 02/16/2017 9:21:45 PM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: BackRoads775

Let’s have it out with the F-35 and see where things stand.


7 posted on 02/16/2017 9:21:49 PM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: mountn man

A lot depends on where the engagement is. The F-16 cannot outrun it and the latest versions of the F-18 are remarkably short legged.

Something to remember - a *lot* of the advantage we have in aerial combat is the AWACS plane hanging back well away from the fight. Many of our enemies have noticed this and built BVR AWACS killer missiles that the slow old converted airliner designs cannot effectively confuse or evade. When deprived of that advantage, our pilots don’t do nearly as well. The Indians and the Germans have both defeated the F-22 with Sukhois or Eurofighters when the F-22 is deprived of AWACS support.


8 posted on 02/16/2017 9:32:10 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Paladin2

The F-35 gun will not be operational until 2018 at the earliest and it is having problems with air to air missiles.


9 posted on 02/16/2017 9:32:52 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: rlmorel

They do, I think its basically the maturity of the Gen4 fighter design. And such planes all kinda wind up looking like an F-15 layout.

Really not much improvement after that beyond some stealth. And stealth hardware improvement will always be far slower than SAM radar computer processing power, so stealth will become less useful at that point.

The Gen 4s will be with us a long time.


10 posted on 02/16/2017 9:35:20 PM PST by DesertRhino
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To: BackRoads775

The Hackhoi-35s Podestov.

Never leave your wingman’s g-mail account logged in.


11 posted on 02/16/2017 9:39:55 PM PST by Proyecto Anonimo
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“I imagine the latest F18’s and f-16’s could hold their own.”

Agree, especially an F-16. To me that really is one of the most astonishing fighters of all time. There really is nothing that can consider a 16 meat on the table.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-UHWJf0Gk0

Mig-29 vs F-16 at a airshow. When the fight starts, the 16 is on its tail in an astonishing turn, and the 29 never once makes a move that the 16 doesn’t easily follow.


12 posted on 02/16/2017 9:56:18 PM PST by DesertRhino
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To: BackRoads775
here's the crappy russian sh*t we were supposed to be terrified of not too many years ago


13 posted on 02/16/2017 10:08:05 PM PST by JohnBrowdie
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To: DesertRhino

Yup.


14 posted on 02/16/2017 10:14:12 PM PST by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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>Lol. Even a hack like me can see this thing has a large radar profile. Could it beat an F35?

Easily with radar jamming which negates the stealth advantage. The F35 is a pig in close range combat and the SU35 is very agile. The F35 is designed for long range radar guided missile combat using stealth to far out of detection range, but given the amount of jamming and outside radar that major powers will employ it may not be much of an advantage and a real fight will still require planes closing in order to use IR missiles and cannons. Nor will the F35 carry a very large combat load if it’s stealth config.

>An F18 Super Hornet or F22 Raptor? Not a chance.

Indeed. There’s nothing close to the F22. We need to restart production and install the new electronics systems from the from F35.


15 posted on 02/16/2017 10:19:47 PM PST by RedWulf (TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!)
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We agree 100%. Your analysis was better and more thorough though.


16 posted on 02/16/2017 10:23:51 PM PST by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: DesertRhino

>Mig-29 vs F-16 at a airshow. When the fight starts, the 16 is on its tail in an astonishing turn, and the 29 never once makes a move that the 16 doesn’t easily follow.

We also have the advantage of better pilots with more hours in the the planes. Or at least we used to. Lots of people left the air force over Obama’s diversity drive and the new stealth fighters have too much downtime to get enough hours in with our pilots.


17 posted on 02/16/2017 10:24:00 PM PST by RedWulf (TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!)
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To: piytar

The su-35 will not beat a raptor.

Be a close match with a hornet. Probably a bigger threat to an f16.


18 posted on 02/16/2017 10:34:50 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: BackRoads775

we shall see .....


19 posted on 02/16/2017 11:35:55 PM PST by LeoWindhorse (America First !)
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To: BackRoads775

Looks a lot like their present fighters or am I missing something!!


20 posted on 02/17/2017 8:37:05 AM PST by ontap
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